MAJOR.SEMVER.PATCH (Changelog Interviews #597)

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Predrag Gruevski and Chris Krycho joined the show to talk about SemVer. We explore the challenges and the advantages of semantic versioning (aka SemVer), the need for improving the tooling around SemVer, where semantic versioning really shines and where it’s needed, Types and SemVer, whether or not there’s a better way, and why it’s not as simple as just opting out.

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Featuring:

• Predrag Gruevski – Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, Website
• Chris Krycho – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, Website
• Adam Stacoviak – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn, Website
• Jerod Santo – Mastodon, Twitter, GitHub, LinkedIn

Show Notes:

• cargo-semver-checks
• Hyrum’s Law
• unison-lang.org
• TrueNAS SCALE
• React Versioning Policy
• Ubuntu version history
• semver-ts.org - Semantic Versioning for TypeScript Types
• The Wi-Fi only works when it’s raining
• April Cools
• obi1kenobi/trustfall
• How to Query Almost Everything (with Trustfall) - 10min tech talk
• More than 1 in 6 of the top Rust libraries has broken SemVer by accident
• How cargo-semver-checks works & why it’s important

Something missing or broken? PRs welcome!

Chapters

1. Welcome to The Changelog (00:00:00)

2. Sponsor: Socket (00:01:16)

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3. Let's talk SemVer (00:04:58)

4. Why are we here? (00:06:27)

5. SemVer in simple terms (00:09:55)

6. Is SemVer misunderstood? (00:13:43)

7. Hyrum's Law and breaking changes (00:16:47)

8. Sponsor: Retool (00:22:03)

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9. Are we just polishing a turd? (00:26:33)

10. Marketting big releases (00:42:02)

11. Incremental adoption (00:51:18)

12. CalVer and names like Ubuntu (00:55:19)

13. Sponsor: ExpressVPN (01:03:14)

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14. Ubuntu, LTS, and CalVer (01:05:04)

15. Concerns for backward compatability (01:14:37)

16. Where can we go from here? (01:22:19)

17. SemVer Nerds! Join today. (01:27:32)

18. Closing thoughts (01:28:43)

19. ++ Teaser (01:31:14)