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'MORE ARTISTS THAN CHART POSITIONS' (Is Doja Cat A Rapper? The Success Of Central Cee, The Evolving Perception Of "The Debut Album")

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Welcome back to Don’t Alert the Stans!

At long last, the men of DATSPOD have returned after a temporary spell away to individually recuperate. And best of all, the full gang is back together again for Season 8 as Nic returns to rejoin the fold. During the listens section, a tangent surrounding contemporary perceptions of “the debut album” comes to the fore. Inspired by Eden and Nic’s respective listens of Rema’s ‘Rave & Roses’ and Latto’s ‘777’, the boys discuss how we’re currently in an era where the expectations, pressure and significance historically levied onto an artist’s debut album is gradually becoming irrelevant and arbitrary. Due to the way streaming services have blurred the lines on the difference between an album, mixtape or EP in 2022 (00:33:40). In the wake of Remy Ma’s polarising comments on Doja Cat’s eligibility as a rapper, kicking off the news agenda is an examination on what are the qualifiers for those who sing and rap to be seen as authentic rappers and ultimately what complicates these notions. (01:10:19). Closing out the episode is an open-ended exchange on the wave of success Central Cee is currently experiencing and what this means in the wider context of Drill becoming more mainstream. The boys dissect his mind-blowing streams, stats and YouTube views to consider why he’s now being put on a pedestal to fly the flag for UK drill in comparison to some of his contemporaries (01:43:58).

Not one to miss!

Sope’s Listens For The Week:

  • Peter Tosh - Equal Rights
  • Tweet - Charlene
  • Tweet - Get Away (Move On)
  • Tweet - Southern Hummingbird
  • Loose Ends - Time Is Ticking
  • Beyoncé - Be Alive
  • Destiny’s Child - Dubillusions
  • Billie Holiday - Don’t Explain
  • Joyce Wrice - Iced Tea

Eden’s Listens For The Week:

  • Che Ecru - Pain Pack 5
  • J Balvin - JOSE
  • Rema - Rave & Roses
  • Coops - Lost Soul
  • CARRTOONS - Saturday Morning
  • Mac Ayres - Magic 8ball

Nic’s Listens For The Week:

  • Omar Apollo - Ivory
  • Latto - 777

Remember to RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE!

Enjoy!

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Intro Music by: @Jmzofficial

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Welcome back to Don’t Alert the Stans!

At long last, the men of DATSPOD have returned after a temporary spell away to individually recuperate. And best of all, the full gang is back together again for Season 8 as Nic returns to rejoin the fold. During the listens section, a tangent surrounding contemporary perceptions of “the debut album” comes to the fore. Inspired by Eden and Nic’s respective listens of Rema’s ‘Rave & Roses’ and Latto’s ‘777’, the boys discuss how we’re currently in an era where the expectations, pressure and significance historically levied onto an artist’s debut album is gradually becoming irrelevant and arbitrary. Due to the way streaming services have blurred the lines on the difference between an album, mixtape or EP in 2022 (00:33:40). In the wake of Remy Ma’s polarising comments on Doja Cat’s eligibility as a rapper, kicking off the news agenda is an examination on what are the qualifiers for those who sing and rap to be seen as authentic rappers and ultimately what complicates these notions. (01:10:19). Closing out the episode is an open-ended exchange on the wave of success Central Cee is currently experiencing and what this means in the wider context of Drill becoming more mainstream. The boys dissect his mind-blowing streams, stats and YouTube views to consider why he’s now being put on a pedestal to fly the flag for UK drill in comparison to some of his contemporaries (01:43:58).

Not one to miss!

Sope’s Listens For The Week:

  • Peter Tosh - Equal Rights
  • Tweet - Charlene
  • Tweet - Get Away (Move On)
  • Tweet - Southern Hummingbird
  • Loose Ends - Time Is Ticking
  • Beyoncé - Be Alive
  • Destiny’s Child - Dubillusions
  • Billie Holiday - Don’t Explain
  • Joyce Wrice - Iced Tea

Eden’s Listens For The Week:

  • Che Ecru - Pain Pack 5
  • J Balvin - JOSE
  • Rema - Rave & Roses
  • Coops - Lost Soul
  • CARRTOONS - Saturday Morning
  • Mac Ayres - Magic 8ball

Nic’s Listens For The Week:

  • Omar Apollo - Ivory
  • Latto - 777

Remember to RATE, REVIEW AND SUBSCRIBE!

Enjoy!

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Intro Music by: @Jmzofficial

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Get involved!

Don't forget to tweet us your thoughts on the episode at #DATSPOD!

Rate and review us on Apple Music, Spotify and Anchor

Follow us on:

Twitter - @datspod

Instagram - @datspod

Anchor – @datspodcast

Hashtag - #DATSPOD

--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/datspodcast/message
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