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Generative AI (as used by defenders AND attackers) will Drive SOC Evolution - Greg Notch, Edward Wu - ESW #369

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The emergence of generative AI has caused us to rethink things on two fronts:

  1. how we consume threat detection data, as defenders
  2. how we need to shift our thinking and approaches to prepare for attackers' newfound GenAI capabilities

But wait - is GenAI even useful for defenders or attackers? We'll dive deep into the state of AI as it pertains to security operations, just as Gartner announces that AI is hitting the trough of disillusionment. What better time to dispel the hype and focus on where real progress can be made?

Edward Wu thinks so! Understandably so, as his startup, Dropzone.ai is making a big bet on generative AI to change the face (and pace) of security operations.

We'll talk about what has changed here, and I have so many questions:

  • after many generations of AI/ML technology in security, is the current gen really that dramatically different?
  • Dropzone is far from the only startup with the same idea here, how will they differentiate?
  • Is the problem that we need more help than we can possibly hire, or are we fundamentally doing something wrong in security operations?
  • Specifically, what is this tech doing to help?

Finally, we'll wrap by talking about where this tech goes next, and can we get there with current technology, or are we dependent on more breakthroughs from companies like OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta?

This week, on Enterprise Security Weekly, we've got:

  1. Identity Security gets more funding
  2. Wiz walks away
  3. BlackHat Announces Startup Spotlight Finalists
  4. Crowdstrike post mortem
  5. Simple Security Tricks are the Best Security Tricks
  6. Splitting the CISO role
  7. Web scraping for AI is out of control
  8. SEC vs Solarwinds
  9. Vaping the Internet

Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes!

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-369

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The emergence of generative AI has caused us to rethink things on two fronts:

  1. how we consume threat detection data, as defenders
  2. how we need to shift our thinking and approaches to prepare for attackers' newfound GenAI capabilities

But wait - is GenAI even useful for defenders or attackers? We'll dive deep into the state of AI as it pertains to security operations, just as Gartner announces that AI is hitting the trough of disillusionment. What better time to dispel the hype and focus on where real progress can be made?

Edward Wu thinks so! Understandably so, as his startup, Dropzone.ai is making a big bet on generative AI to change the face (and pace) of security operations.

We'll talk about what has changed here, and I have so many questions:

  • after many generations of AI/ML technology in security, is the current gen really that dramatically different?
  • Dropzone is far from the only startup with the same idea here, how will they differentiate?
  • Is the problem that we need more help than we can possibly hire, or are we fundamentally doing something wrong in security operations?
  • Specifically, what is this tech doing to help?

Finally, we'll wrap by talking about where this tech goes next, and can we get there with current technology, or are we dependent on more breakthroughs from companies like OpenAI, Anthropic, and Meta?

This week, on Enterprise Security Weekly, we've got:

  1. Identity Security gets more funding
  2. Wiz walks away
  3. BlackHat Announces Startup Spotlight Finalists
  4. Crowdstrike post mortem
  5. Simple Security Tricks are the Best Security Tricks
  6. Splitting the CISO role
  7. Web scraping for AI is out of control
  8. SEC vs Solarwinds
  9. Vaping the Internet

Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/esw for all the latest episodes!

Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/esw-369

  continue reading

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