Centering Others: Empowerment in the Margins with Roxane Gay & Megan Pillow

For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

This powerful episode in our Queer Futures series features an enlightening conversation about power structures with Jen and renowned author Roxane Gay and co-writer Megan Pillow. The women explore not only the concept of individual power, but how we can engage in community empowerment. Together, they delve into how marginalized communities, particularly LGBTQ+ individuals, can claim their power and challenge existing power structures to create a more inclusive and just society.

Discussion includes:

• Claiming Individual Power: How women, LGBTQ+ individuals, and others can assert their power in personal and professional spaces.
• Challenging Power Structures: The importance of calling out abuses of power and questioning the status quo
• Empowerment Through Solidarity: The role of community and collective action in amplifying individual voices and driving social progress.
• Re-examining Power Dynamics: How rethinking traditional notions of gender, race, and power can lead to more equitable outcomes.
• Focusing on the Margins: The significance of centering marginalized voices and experiences in conversations about power and progress.

Roxane and Megan discuss practical steps that anyone can take to empower others around them. We’re encouraged to ask ourselves critical questions about our own relationships to power and to question the power sources that infringe on the rights of others and use our individual power to disrupt them. Every small act of resistance contributes to a larger movement for justice.

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Thought-Provoking Quotes:

“Power doesn't affect all of us equally and some people are able to wield power or are given power, and others have power wielded against them. There are all kinds of factors that contribute to the why of that.” - Dr. Roxane Gay

“When you see an abuse of power, call it out and identify it. Oftentimes power works because nobody questions it and nobody challenges it.” - Dr. Roxane Gay

"We have to use voting as one tool [to enact change], but we have to figure out other ways to be involved in our communities and to enact other forms of power, not just rely on voting as the singular tool that we use to try to enact change.” - Dr. Roxane Gay

“The queer future is complicated. I think the queer future is much better than the queer past, and we are really enjoying a lot of freedom. But it's not enough and until all of us are free, none of us are free.” - Dr. Roxane Gay

Resources Mentioned in This Episode:

Bad Feminist by Dr. Roxane Gay - https://roxanegay.com/books/bad-feminist/

Difficult Women by Dr. Roxane Gay - https://roxanegay.com/books/difficult-women/

Hunger by Dr. Roxane Gay - https://roxanegay.com/books/hunger/

All of Roxane’s Books - https://roxanegay.com/books/

Do The Work: A Guide to Understanding Power and Creating Change by Dr.Roxane Gay and Dr. Megan Pillow - https://bit.ly/45nxhvd

The Power Book: What is it, Who Has it, and Why? by Dr. Roxane Gay - https://bit.ly/3VBRYAl

Obergefell v. Hodges (2015 Supreme Court case making same-sex marriages legal in the U.S.) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obergefell_v._Hodges

Guest’s Links:

Roxane’s Website - https://roxanegay.com/

Roxane’s Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/roxanegay74

Roxane’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/roxanegay74

The Audacity (Roxane and Megan’s Stubstack Blog) - https://audacity.substack.com/

Megan’s Website - https://www.meganpillow.com/

Megan’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/megpillow

Megan’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/megpillow77/

Craftwork (Megan’s Substack Blog) - https://craftwork.substack.com/

Connect with Jen!

Jen’s website - https://jenhatmaker.com/

Jen’s Instagram - https://instagram.com/jenhatmaker

Jen’s Twitter - https://twitter.com/jenHatmaker/

Jen’s Facebook - https://facebook.com/jenhatmaker

Jen’s YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/user/JenHatmaker

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