{HBR 45} What If We Did It Differently? with Megan Elizabeth Morris

Holistic Business Radio – The Podcast of the Love and Money Revolution – with Andy Dolph and Rhiannon Llewellyn

Service, Gift Economy, Spiritual Economics - What if these formed the basis of business? How amazing could it be? Megan shares her thoughts (and they go deep!) Scroll down for show notes! We love your feedback! Please let us know what you think – email us at [e-mail], or leave us a comment below. If you’re not subscribed, please join us! How to subscribe: Most people subscribe to podcasts in iTunes; click the button to view the podcast in iTunes. Show notes from this episode with Megan Elizabeth Morris: Andy talks with Megan Morris about changing our perspective on money, business and life. Andy was really struck by a post that Megan made on Facebook. It goes like this: So, we're all trying to make *money*... money is all connected to our fear/survival stuff... But in many ways it seems silly -- every one of us so isolated, not talking about the things that we're not supposed to talk about because "not having enough money" is so freaking taboo. Trying to bootstrap it individually, worrying that we won't make the cut, doing our best to put on brave faces about it, feeling alone and lost sometimes. And might seem ridiculous at first, but can you imagine if every one of us who was trying to make money put our heads together and looked for ways to help one another? I bet we would need less money in order to have the things we need... and we might find better ways to get the money we need, too. Short of me having an actual plan in place (okay okay, give me time)... Who's in? ;} Andy asks Megan how things have been going for her since she made that post. Megan says that what has happened since that post is not what she expected. She thought it would take time to test and build, but the energy felt right and she realized that it could be done right now, that day. The development of this idea of people helping people has spread out over other areas of her life. What’s happening for her is that she’s seeing so many other areas and disciplines that are backing up this idea. She’s exploring connection—natural human connection—when two people really resonate on a deep frequency. She has really applied this question of “Why do people have such a hard time around money in our culture?” to her learning and reading and has really started to dig into it, even in day-to-day life. She says that basically, we think money is necessary, but really it’s not. She expects some argument to that concept. But it’s because we’re hanging on to this little money demon—anxiety, sadness, anger, brokenness; we don’t want it but we won’t let it go. Andy compares it to hanging on to a rope as you’re being dragged across a field. You don’t want to be dragged along, but you don’t want to let go either. Megan says that letting go seems like a really easy concept, but she recognizes that it takes a lot of time to do. She is astonished, for herself personally, that letting go of the money demon has been way easier than she thought it would be. She’s also amazed, though, at how long it has taken her to get where she is with it and how much further she has to go. With every step, she feels happier, safer, and freer to connect with people. Megan talks about her reading of Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson. In this book, we’re reminded that human beings evolved in tribes or packs. What we really needed to survive was the pack bond. If you were separated from the pack in the wilderness, you could die. So, to Megan, it makes sense that we human beings have within us a deep-seated need or drive to stay connected to the tribe: seek connection, stay relevant and useful to the pack, and center your love and your work in the pack. Her understanding of this concept has been massively transformed by reading Charles Eisenstein’s Sacred Economics, a book she highly recommends. Now, we live in a civilization that has taught us that instead of prizing the pack bond over everything—instead of being terrified of lo...