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“SAE feature geometry is outside the superposition hypothesis” by jake_mendel

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Summary: Superposition-based interpretations of neural network activation spaces are incomplete. The specific locations of feature vectors contain crucial structural information beyond superposition, as seen in circular arrangements of day-of-the-week features and in the rich structures. We don’t currently have good concepts for talking about this structure in feature geometry, but it is likely very important for model computation. An eventual understanding of feature geometry might look like a hodgepodge of case-specific explanations, or supplementing superposition with additional concepts, or plausibly an entirely new theory that supersedes superposition. To develop this understanding, it may be valuable to study toy models in depth and do theoretical or conceptual work in addition to studying frontier models.
Epistemic status: Decently confident that the ideas here are directionally correct. I’ve been thinking these thoughts for a while, and recently got round to writing them up at a high level. Lots of people (including [...]
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June 24th, 2024
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https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MFBTjb2qf3ziWmzz6/sae-feature-geometry-is-outside-the-superposition-hypothesis
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Summary: Superposition-based interpretations of neural network activation spaces are incomplete. The specific locations of feature vectors contain crucial structural information beyond superposition, as seen in circular arrangements of day-of-the-week features and in the rich structures. We don’t currently have good concepts for talking about this structure in feature geometry, but it is likely very important for model computation. An eventual understanding of feature geometry might look like a hodgepodge of case-specific explanations, or supplementing superposition with additional concepts, or plausibly an entirely new theory that supersedes superposition. To develop this understanding, it may be valuable to study toy models in depth and do theoretical or conceptual work in addition to studying frontier models.
Epistemic status: Decently confident that the ideas here are directionally correct. I’ve been thinking these thoughts for a while, and recently got round to writing them up at a high level. Lots of people (including [...]
The original text contained 5 footnotes which were omitted from this narration.
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First published:
June 24th, 2024
Source:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MFBTjb2qf3ziWmzz6/sae-feature-geometry-is-outside-the-superposition-hypothesis
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Narrated by TYPE III AUDIO.
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