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Episode 31: Combat Leader Nic McKinley's New War: Human Trafficking
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Last year, Men's Journal wrote: "In a world yearning for genuine heroes, Nic McKinley stands as a testament to selflessness, core values, and dedication, truly a ‘man for others'."
Nic is Liss 'N Kristi's guest on today's episode. He's an entrepreneur, former military special operator, and ex-CIA operative who led two multimillion-dollar tech companies.
But he talks mostly about DeliverFund, a non-profit he founded and led, which fights human trafficking by delivering data and technology to law enforcement, working with more than 500 agencies, and enabling them to take down the traffickers.
Despite being dubbed “The Real Jack Ryan” by VICE Media, Nic tells Liss 'N Kristi his most important role is as a husband and father leading his family in a life of service and adventure in Montana. When he is not in his office, he can be found on a lake, on the ski slopes, camping, climbing vertical rock or ice in the mountains, with his nose in a book learning something new, or spending downtime with his wife, Danielle.
Nic's Website:-
DeliverFund's Website:-
STORIES:
00:00 - Start
00:11 - Introducing Nic
00:57 - About DeliverFund
01:25 - Nic's passion for protecting children from societal predators
02:53 - How technological tools made us effective in combat zones, and how they can be used in fighting trafficking
03:50 - Leaving the CIA and jumping into the tech market
04:10 - The skills of Pararescuemen
05:45 - Not just combat-related, but also civilian-related
08:03 - Getting qualified on water-based selection and the combat-dive course. Water is the great equalizer
10:24 - Putting people under water and make them accomplish tasks
12:15 - 330 candidates started my class and eight of us graduated
12:32 - 400,000 children go missing in the U.S. every year. One in six are victims of trafficking
13:20 - Learning to think differently in the CIA and getting strategic in leveraging communities
15:00 - Where is the role of society, law enforcement, big business, and social media?
17:20 - The Human Trafficking Rescue Alliance in Houston, TX., have a DeliverFund employee
19:25 - From shooters to computers, leveraging the capability of law-enforcement officers
20:40 - "Human trafficking - that happens over THERE"
21:33 - What we consider corruption, they consider doing business
23:05 - Building anti-corruption systems with corruption in mind
28:00 - The Feds don't have the manpower, it's all state and local
30:14 - How we enable cases to get closed faster and more cheaply
32:52 - Conversations with the most vulnerable kids
33:10 - Myths about child abductions
35:01 - The non-familial 30-year-old man who identifies a vulnerable child on TikTok thousands of miles away
36:48 - Social Media is really the gateway to children being trafficked
38:30 - Where is the authenticity?
39:55 - Kristi's time working with the FBI
41:10 - The $500 shoes and the $2000 shoes
43:01 - Today's High School graduates do not know a world without the internet
46:07 - The clientele for human trafficking and pornography
48:15 - A man who has a daughter who will abuse somebody else's daughter
49:57 - Preventing the communications
51:16 - Texas led the country in countering pornography
52:30 - Ordering up a girl like a pizza
53:00 - Disabling the commerce of human trafficking
52 episodes
Manage episode 425336153 series 3555794
Last year, Men's Journal wrote: "In a world yearning for genuine heroes, Nic McKinley stands as a testament to selflessness, core values, and dedication, truly a ‘man for others'."
Nic is Liss 'N Kristi's guest on today's episode. He's an entrepreneur, former military special operator, and ex-CIA operative who led two multimillion-dollar tech companies.
But he talks mostly about DeliverFund, a non-profit he founded and led, which fights human trafficking by delivering data and technology to law enforcement, working with more than 500 agencies, and enabling them to take down the traffickers.
Despite being dubbed “The Real Jack Ryan” by VICE Media, Nic tells Liss 'N Kristi his most important role is as a husband and father leading his family in a life of service and adventure in Montana. When he is not in his office, he can be found on a lake, on the ski slopes, camping, climbing vertical rock or ice in the mountains, with his nose in a book learning something new, or spending downtime with his wife, Danielle.
Nic's Website:-
DeliverFund's Website:-
STORIES:
00:00 - Start
00:11 - Introducing Nic
00:57 - About DeliverFund
01:25 - Nic's passion for protecting children from societal predators
02:53 - How technological tools made us effective in combat zones, and how they can be used in fighting trafficking
03:50 - Leaving the CIA and jumping into the tech market
04:10 - The skills of Pararescuemen
05:45 - Not just combat-related, but also civilian-related
08:03 - Getting qualified on water-based selection and the combat-dive course. Water is the great equalizer
10:24 - Putting people under water and make them accomplish tasks
12:15 - 330 candidates started my class and eight of us graduated
12:32 - 400,000 children go missing in the U.S. every year. One in six are victims of trafficking
13:20 - Learning to think differently in the CIA and getting strategic in leveraging communities
15:00 - Where is the role of society, law enforcement, big business, and social media?
17:20 - The Human Trafficking Rescue Alliance in Houston, TX., have a DeliverFund employee
19:25 - From shooters to computers, leveraging the capability of law-enforcement officers
20:40 - "Human trafficking - that happens over THERE"
21:33 - What we consider corruption, they consider doing business
23:05 - Building anti-corruption systems with corruption in mind
28:00 - The Feds don't have the manpower, it's all state and local
30:14 - How we enable cases to get closed faster and more cheaply
32:52 - Conversations with the most vulnerable kids
33:10 - Myths about child abductions
35:01 - The non-familial 30-year-old man who identifies a vulnerable child on TikTok thousands of miles away
36:48 - Social Media is really the gateway to children being trafficked
38:30 - Where is the authenticity?
39:55 - Kristi's time working with the FBI
41:10 - The $500 shoes and the $2000 shoes
43:01 - Today's High School graduates do not know a world without the internet
46:07 - The clientele for human trafficking and pornography
48:15 - A man who has a daughter who will abuse somebody else's daughter
49:57 - Preventing the communications
51:16 - Texas led the country in countering pornography
52:30 - Ordering up a girl like a pizza
53:00 - Disabling the commerce of human trafficking
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