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Weekly interviews with world-class engineering leaders about writing great software and working well with humans.
Today's guest is Adam Wiggins ! Adam is the General Manager of Platform at The Browser Company and co-founder of Heroku. With Adam, we talked about innovating user experience in software and AI, we discussed what Local-first software means and we explored the future of developer tools. (02:49) Introduction (04:01) Adam's journey in tech (06:15) The rise of developer experience (10:03) The constant drive of improving UX (12:07) Dia & The Browser Company (14:49) Using AI to improve UX (20:38) Unlocking potentials through UX (25:18) Local-first software (32:34) Data ownership (34:31) Web development and complexity (38:03) AI and the future of development (40:25) The iteration loop ā This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com ā You can also find this at: - š¬ Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - š§ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - š± Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Martin Fowler ! Martin is chief scientist at ThoughtWorks. He is one of the original signatories of the Agile Manifesto and author of several legendary books, among which there is Refactoring, which shares the name with this podcast and this newsletter. With Martin, we talked about the impact of AI on software development, from the development process to how human learning and understanding changes up to the future of software engineering jobs. Then we explored the technical debt metaphor, why it has been so successful, and Martin's own advice on dealing with it. And finally, we talked about the state of Agile, the resistance that still exists today towards many Agile practices and how to measure engineering effectiveness. (03:29) Introduction (05:20) Development cycle with AI (08:36) Less control and reduced learning (13:11) Splitting task between Human and AI (14:48) The skills shift (20:17) Betting on new technologies (27:22) Martin's Refactoring and technical debt (29:24) Accumulating "cruft" (33:14) Dealing with "cruft" (37:24) The financial value of refactoring (42:04) Measuring performances (46:19) Why the "forest" didn't spread (56:11) Make the forest appealing ā This episode is brought to you by https://workos.com ā You can also find this at: - š¬ Newsletter : https://refactoring.fm - š§ Spotify : https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - š± Apple : https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Aviv Ben Josef ! Aviv has more than 20 years of experience in tech. He is an executive coach working with hundreds of engineering teams and leaders. With Aviv, we talked about profitable engineering, what makes engineering valuable, why impact is hard to measure,and what are the cultural and organizational traits that make engineering teams successful. (01:43) Introduction (02:20) Avivās journey into tech (05:57) From tech to consulting (08:12) Less coding, more coaching (11:42) Profitable engineering (15:11) What unprofitable engineering looks like (17:33) Other engineering dysfunctions (20:49) Why is engineering still perceived as a cost (27:23) Switch your approach (32:48) Intentional learning (38:29) Meta retros: connecting engineers and product (45:31) Set your goals (48:27) Product engineering in todayās framework (53:28) The AI influence on teamwork ā This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io ā You can also find this at: - š¬ Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - š§ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - š± Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Pat Kua ! Pat is a professional engineering and leadership coach with more than 20 years of experience in tech. He was CTO of N26 and principal consultant at ThoughtWorks. He is an accomplished speaker and writes an awesome newsletter for tech leaders called Level Up. With Pat, we talked about his journey in tech, from Australia to London to Berlin. We talked about the future of engineering management and technical leadership and the ever controversial founder mode. Here is what we talked about: (02:17) Introduction (03:05) Pat's journey in tech (12:17) Engineering management evolution (18:27) Balancing people and tech management (21:55) The paybacks of a good management (25:25) System thinking in people's management (28:39) Finding the balance in hybrid roles (31:52) The foundation skill (37:42) About Paul Graham's essay (45:22) The maker vs multiplier framework (48:15) The evolution of practices in tech ā This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io ā You can also find this at: - š¬ Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - š§ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - š± Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Francesco Dominidiato ! Francesco Dominidiato is CTO at Moneyfarm, one of the largest wealth management companies in Europe, and former CTO at high-growth startups like Casavo and Docebo. During his career he scaled organizations from zero to hundreds of employees, and has incredible experience at all levels: from leading small teams to NASDAQ-listed companies. With Francesco, we talked about career frameworks, how to create a path that creates opportunities for both individual contributors and managers, how to address career development issues, organizational debt and more. Here is what we talked about: (02:09) Introduction (03:07) Francesco's journey in tech (06:57) Today's industry direction (18:17) A path for all careers (23:36) Salary range & defining roles (34:24) The cost of organizational debt (41:10) Evolving the career framework (53:35) Scaling the ladders (57:02) Tricky roles (01:04:21) The path of engineering career ā This episode is brought to you by https://sleuth.io ā You can also find this at: - š¬ Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - š§ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - š± Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Stephanie Wong ! Stephanie is the Head of Technical Marketing at Google Cloud, where she blends storytelling and technology to inspire developers and build customer growth. Sheās an award-winning host, global keynote speaker, and creator of viral tech content. With Stephanie, we talked about her journey from sales to content creation to product management and generative AI. We talked about technical storytelling, how to craft great stories around technical products. And finally we discussed product management for generative AI and the challenges of driving adoption for AI products. Here is what we talked about: (01:58) Introduction (02:52) Stephanie's journey into tech (07:31) Pioneering content creation for tech (10:05) Learning through experience (13:17) How to tell a tech story (16:47) Branding and content creation (23:12) How to improve your storytelling (28:28) Finding the way to grow (34:11) "Get the ball rolling!" (41:40) Content creation and product management (44:20) AI's role in today's tech ā You can also find this at: š¬ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Newsletterā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŗ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Youtubeā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š± ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Appleā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Pramoda Vyasarao ! Pramoda is a leadership and communication coach, he has 20+ years of experience in big tech, wrote the book āBeyond Your Limitsā, and runs a course called Communication Engineering With Pramoda, we will talk about what good communication looks like, especially for engineers and managers, how it impacted his career and the career of the leaders he helps. Here is what we talked about: (02:05) Introduction (02:51) The Toastmasters Club (07:12) Engineering Communication issues (10:18) Communication through Pramoda's career (13:28) The TALL framework (19:11) Evaluation vs Information (20:44) The TALL framework: Asking (34:19) The GROW model (36:18) The TALL framework: Listening (38:05) The Path to action (46:04) From feelings to facts (50:38) The TALL framework: Leadership (53:51) Get a coach! (55:28) Mentoring vs Coaching (58:39) Beyond your Limits: a look on Pramoda's work Learn more about Pramoda's work: Communication Engineering course: https://www.changesmith.me/communication Beyond Your Limits book: Amazon ā You can also find this at: š¬ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Newsletterā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŗ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Youtubeā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š± ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Appleā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Camille Fournier ! Camille is an accomplished CTO and executive with 20+ years of experience in tech, and author of the timeless The Managerās Path, possibly the most influential book ever about engineering management. With Camille we talked about good vs bad management, the controversial new founder mode, career advice for managers and her next book about platform engineering. Here is what we talked about: (02:01) Introduction (03:51) About the founder mode (11:46) Good weed, bad weeds (17:49) Finding "the formula" (21:24) Managing at different levels (28:03) The identity war (32:55) The staples of management (39:53) Having a strong opinion (43:21) Staying valuable (49:53) Keep your skills valuable (55:15) Platform engineering ā This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io ā You can also find this at: š¬ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Newsletterā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŗ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Youtubeā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š± ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Appleā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is David Heinemeier Hansson ! David is the creator of Rails, co-founder & CTO of Basecamp, a NYT bestselling author, and professional racing driver for 10+ years! In our chat, we explored many of David's strong opinions on software development, including today's excessive complexity in software and infrastructure, the role of AI, and the future of open source. We also talked about his racing and how he approaches learning any topic from scratch. Here is what we talked about: (02:20) Introduction (03:42) Merchants of Complexity (13:19) Innovating the dev experience (21:53) Complexity in small projects (28:14) Incentives hurt open source (32:49) Subscription vs ONCE (35:24) David and AI (47:27) Using AI as training wheels (49:42) The art of learning ā This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io ā You can also find this at: š¬ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Newsletterā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŗ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Youtubeā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š± ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Appleā ā ā ā ā ā ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Henry Poydar ! Henry is CEO and founder at Steady, with more than 25 years of experience in tech leadership roles. With Henry, we talked about continuous coordination, an open source framework he co-created, providing a set of principles and practices for running modern, effective engineering teams. Here is what we talked about: (01:25) Introduction (02:25) Henry's Career (13:23) Create async communication (16:47) Keeping a steady beat (23:02) Define a necessary meeting (26:00) The proper alignment (30:58) Applying continuous coordination (37:06) Discovering how your team works (38:38) Managing in the AI era (44:27) How remote can improve working (48:20) How AI is affecting team work ā This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io ā You can also find this at: š¬ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Newsletterā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŗ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Youtubeā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š± ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Appleā ā ā ā ā ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Dana Lawson ! Dana is CTO at Netlify and held leadership roles at incredible companies like GitHub, New Relic, InVision, and more. With Dana, we talked about her journey, starting in the military, becoming a manager and major lessons she has learned. We also talked about how to hire engineers, how to create a diverse and inclusive team, and the impact of AI on engineering. Here is what we talked about: (01:25) Introduction (02:07) Dana's tech journey (08:43) Career's tipping points (14:53) Balancing technical and managing skills (19:32) Connecting is key (22:11) Hiring in 2024 (28:04) How AI is affecting hiring (32:54) Pursuing diversity in a team (43:39) Pushing boundaries and growth (45:47) Integrating AI in the workflow ā This episode is brought to you by sleuth.io ā You can also find this at: š¬ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Newsletterā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŗ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Youtubeā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š± ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Appleā ā ā ā ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Irina Stanescu ! Irina is a full-time engineering coach, course instructor, and former manager at Uber and Google. With Irina, we talked about her journey through Silicon Valley, big tech, and high growth startups, balancing IC and management duties, and achieving impact through influence. Here is what we talked about: (01:21) Introduction (02:02) Irinaās first steps (06:10) Joining Google (08:15) From Google to Uber (10:16) Being a young TLM (14:34) The restraints of a TLM (18:14) Uber vs Google (22:01) Impact through influence (28:09) Training your influence skills (35:42) Applying influence in specific roles (38:04) How to be an helpful EM ā You can also find this at: š¬ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Newsletterā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŗ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Youtubeā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š± ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Appleā ā ā ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Greg Foster ! Greg is CTO at Graphite, a tool that helps teams doing better code reviews, and smaller and faster code changes. With Greg, we talked about what good code reviews look like, how AI is changing the development process, and how the Graphite engineering team works. Here is what we talked about: (02:01) Introduction (03:06) What is Graphite? (05:05) Graphite's code reviewing (09:58) Combining different workflows (13:07) Monorepos vs polyrepos (17:28) Conducting code reviews (21:57) The landscape of automated review (25:09) The hidden meaning behind skipping code reviews (27:43) Common mistakes (29:53) Integrating AI in code review (34:36) AI - human balance (38:27) Tech apprenticeship in the AI era (41:14) Graphite's structure (45:15) A dev tool from devs (47:23) Delivery process at Graphite ā You can also find this at: š¬ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Newsletterā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŗ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Youtubeā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š± ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Appleā ā ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Malte Ubl ! Malte is CTO at Vercel, the frontend cloud provider, and creator and maintainer of Next.js, the most popular React framework. Malte has also been Engineer Director at Google, where he led Google Search for desktop computers. With Malte, we deep dived into how Vercel works as a team, what could developer experience look like, and the future of AI-enabled applications. Here is what we talked about: (01:21) Introduction (02:17) How Vercel works (05:01) Vercel team strategy (06:29) The journey of a new code (13:45) Do we need engineering managers? (16:59) Necessary and useless roles (22:51) Vercel' developing strategy (33:19) The ideal development process (37:25) Finding and avoiding bottlenecks (40:48) Thoughts on AI shift (47:46) Adapting software to AI interaction (53:01) AI and open source ā You can also find this at: š¬ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Newsletterā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŗ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Youtubeā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š± ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Appleā ā ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubu can also find this at: - š¬ Newsletter: https://refactoring.fm - š§ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7Luds9dmzZDoDC8Q7EMbSw - š± Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/refactoring-podcast/id1719137305 ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
Today's guest is Anna Shipman ! Anna is CTO at Kooth, former Technical Director at Financial Times, a Keynote speaker and accomplished author. With Anna, we talked about her journey in tech and how to develop a good technical strategy, drawing from stories and examples from her 20 plus years of engineering experience. Here is what we talked about: (00:54) Introduction (01:20) Anna's journey in Tech (06:36) Going from public to private (09:17) What does Kooth do? (12:53) Technical strategy definition (15:01) Applying the strategy (24:53) Improving over time (30:10) The strategy framework (33:38) The pitfalls of setting up a strategy (36:23) Converge team and strategy (41:45) The strategist authority Here are a few articles and resources that were mentioned throughout the interview: A faster FT.com No next next Building Kooth Annaās website ā You can also find this at: š¬ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Newsletterā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā šŗ ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Youtubeā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā š± ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā ā Appleā ā For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, or appearing as a guest, email: luca@refactoring.clubā¦
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