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What Kind of Community Do We Want? | Lucien Greaves

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In this episode of Sacred Tension, I’m joined by The Satanic Temple co-founder Lucien Greaves to discuss the recent controversy in our religious community. He was recently photographed with an alleged sexual harasser and transphobe, and we reflect on the kind of culture we want to see in The Satanic Temple and why Lucien has responded the way he has to this controversy.


In early June 2023, Lucien Greaves took a photograph with David Silverman, a controversial figure in the online atheist space. Silverman posted the photo to Twitter and it was met with outrage both within and outside of the TST community. Lucien has received calls for clarifying statements, and even his resignation.


We discuss the principles motivating Lucien’s refusal to issue statements, and why he won’t publicly denounce Silverman. We address three main concerns about his leadership:


1. The photograph might signify a friendly relationship between Silverman and Lucien. If so, what does that say about our community?


2. The photograph itself wasn’t the problem, but Lucien’s response on Twitter came off as defensive and unhelpful.


3. Lucien has seemed conspicuously silent on trans issues, so when he is photographed with an alleged transphobe, the LGBT+ community is unsure of where he stands in regard to their rights.


This was a challenging conversation to record, and I’m posting it trusting in the goodwill of our religious community. Please note that this episode was originally recorded on the 16th of June and we don’t comment on some events that have taken place since then.


Lucien Greaves has also written an article addressing this situation, which you can read here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/angry-mob-84882770
Subscribe to my Substack newsletter: https://sacredtension.substack.com/


Become a patron so I can continue my crippling content creation addiction: https://www.patreon.com/StephenBradfordLong


Join my Discord server: https://discord.gg/PrDU4zx


This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit sacredtension.substack.com/subscribe
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In this episode of Sacred Tension, I’m joined by The Satanic Temple co-founder Lucien Greaves to discuss the recent controversy in our religious community. He was recently photographed with an alleged sexual harasser and transphobe, and we reflect on the kind of culture we want to see in The Satanic Temple and why Lucien has responded the way he has to this controversy.


In early June 2023, Lucien Greaves took a photograph with David Silverman, a controversial figure in the online atheist space. Silverman posted the photo to Twitter and it was met with outrage both within and outside of the TST community. Lucien has received calls for clarifying statements, and even his resignation.


We discuss the principles motivating Lucien’s refusal to issue statements, and why he won’t publicly denounce Silverman. We address three main concerns about his leadership:


1. The photograph might signify a friendly relationship between Silverman and Lucien. If so, what does that say about our community?


2. The photograph itself wasn’t the problem, but Lucien’s response on Twitter came off as defensive and unhelpful.


3. Lucien has seemed conspicuously silent on trans issues, so when he is photographed with an alleged transphobe, the LGBT+ community is unsure of where he stands in regard to their rights.


This was a challenging conversation to record, and I’m posting it trusting in the goodwill of our religious community. Please note that this episode was originally recorded on the 16th of June and we don’t comment on some events that have taken place since then.


Lucien Greaves has also written an article addressing this situation, which you can read here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/angry-mob-84882770
Subscribe to my Substack newsletter: https://sacredtension.substack.com/


Become a patron so I can continue my crippling content creation addiction: https://www.patreon.com/StephenBradfordLong


Join my Discord server: https://discord.gg/PrDU4zx


This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit sacredtension.substack.com/subscribe
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