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A wedding, a nasty divorce and a whole new Kate gate, it's Holly's royal round up.

Also, have you ever heard of grey rock theory? It might just be the answer for getting through conversations with difficult people. We explain.

And, the return of the lads’ mag. Are middle-aged men nostalgic for a time of what they call "innocent ogling"? We have some thoughts.

The End Bits:

• Listen to our latest episode: How Many Times We've Been In Love
• Listen to the latest episode of Mid
• Listen to the latest episode of No Filter
• Listen to Em Vernem on The Spill
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CREDITS:

Hosts: Mia Freedman, Holly Wainwright & Emily Vernem

Producer: Emeline Gazilas

Assistant Production: Tahli Blackman

Audio Producer: Leah Porges

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