S4E12 - Mark Wales: Survivor Redux

The Unforgiving60

Mark Wales is one of our favourite guests – so much so that Ben can’t remember how many times he’s been on the show (turns out this is only the second). But each time has been a great conversation, and this is certainly no exception. Mark, fresh off his momentous half-million dollar Survivor: Blood and Water victory, joins Ben and Tim to talk all things reality TV, tough luxury, fathering, books, music, Anzac Day….and conspiracy theories. A must-listen episode!

3:25 Welcoming Mark back for the second – or is it third?! – no, wait – second time!

5:30 On Survivor – second time around

7:00 The dangers of playing tactics on Survivor – with your wife! (or – can you leave all that stuff on set, or does some of it come home with you?!)

8:55 How does Survivor compare with the SAS selection course?

11:05 The trappings of reality TV fame – how often does Mark get recognised in the street?!

15:09 Mark’s reflections on being an author

19:00 What does Anzac Day mean to Mark?

21:30 A quick detour into opinions on Australian defence capability

24:45 Mark on parenting – and on leaving his four year-old son Harry to play Survivor

29:51 Ben on helicopter parenting

32:00 Kill Kapture – has Survivor and Mark’s book moved the needle on jacket sales? Includes some great whiskey discussion – and some discussion about great whiskey, including WhipperSnapper (click here for our discussion with Jimmy McKeown, Master Distiller at WhipperSnapper)

38:30 A few questions and comments from the Instagram livestream

39:30 Mark’s current fitness regime – and how did he prepare for Survivor – from a physical and mental perspective

44:30 What’s Mark reading at the moment?

50:30 And then, somehow, the conversation shifts to UFO and conspiracy theories…

57:10 Ben explains more than anyone ever wanted to know about Little Bird – the song he recorded in Saddam’s toilet in Iraq

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External Links

Kill Kapture – Mark’s ‘tough luxury’ company. And home of the best leather jackets on the planet.

Music

The Externals – available on Spotify

Ben Frichot - available on Spotify

Ben Pronk - not available anywhere (with good reason)