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Episode 18 - Untangling "Manifesting": a conversation with Katherine Newell Okojie
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This conversation starts with ritual and craft. Then we move into Katherine's background in The New Thought Movement, a movement behind the philosophy "your thought can change your reality." We delve into some of the history of the New Thought Movement and its ramifications on a society that emphasizes that "you can become anything" while at the same time ignoring societal injustice, systemic injustice, the gifts of sickness and suffering, and various forms of limits to growth. Interwoven in our conversation, Katherine shares pieces of her spiritual journey away from focusing on "manifesting" and towards become a witchy person living in an already enchanted world.
This podcast is recorded in Autumn of 2022.
Beginnings - first offerings; rituals as embodied practice
6:57 - The New Thought Movement: the backdrop of 'manifesting'
13:00 - "Vibrating at the frequency of health" - New Thought Moves across the country
15:00 - Prosperity Gospel
20:00 - Acknowledging the power of the New Thought Movement and the limitations and 5-step affirmative prayer
23:30 - Relationship between New Thought and New Age
29:00 - Incompleteness and challenges of "manifest your vision" philosophies
33:00 - The importance of knowing where we come from and how this shifts our visions
41:38 - Initial restating of some of the main insights that have arisen in our conversation
44:00 - Learning with and alongside suffering
48:00: The importance of engaging with anger; a ritual for anger
55:00 - Mars in Retrograde, and the firey parts of ourselves
Ending with appreciation, remembering, the importance of going into the depth of who we are
Further links:
Katherine works with individuals, teams, and organizations. She is highly responsive to people reaching out to her! You can learn more about her work crafting rituals at www.katherinenewell.com.
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