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October 28, 2023 | Investing Volatility, PCE, Recession and Annuity Sales Continue to Grow

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Investing Volatility
A recent client survey by Charles Schwab produced some viable insights during difficult times like this. Over the longer term 33% of investors attributed their greatest investing success to patience through volatility. It is hard to patient during the ups and downs, but the reality is when holding good quality investments, it has proven to always be the right thing to do. Unfortunately, patient doesn’t mean 2-3 months and sometimes it may mean 2-3 years. The funny thing is that even though that patience has always paid off, our emotions lead us to want to sell at the worst times and many people end up doing so costing themselves drastically in the long term. The second most cited reason for clients’ greatest investing success was careful research which came from 16% of respondents. We always tell people that before we step in and by a company, it’s at least 10-15 hours of research. This doesn’t mean you won’t have volatility, but it does give you more comfort in knowing and understanding your investments during the difficult times which allows you to be patient. The biggest culprit for an investors worst investment was lack of research with 20% saying this was the cause. This doesn’t surprise me as many people are quick to jump into the hype or invest in something because a friend or family member thought it was a good idea. Unfortunately, like the survey shows we have seen this work out poorly for many investors. Another big culprit for the worst investment was high risk with 13% of respondents citing this reason. In today’s society people want to try and make a quick return, but that is not how investing works. People want to try and get big returns and they end up losing massively. We tell our client’s a reasonable target should be around 8-12% in the longer term. Anything in excess of this and you are likely taking big risks that could put your portfolio in jeopardy.

PCE
There wasn’t much in the Personal Consumption Expenditures Price Index (PCE), which is the Fed’s preferred measure for inflation. The headline number was up 3.4% which was the same as last month. The core PCE, which excludes food and energy was up 3.7% and was one-tenth lower than the reading in August. Core PCE hit a peak around 5.6% in early 2022. With the aggressive increase in short term rates, the recent increase in the 10-year treasury, and the resumption of student loan payments likely slowing the economy somewhat I still believe the Fed should allow these hikes to sink in and evaluate where we stand in the coming months.

Recession
It is interesting how many people believed we were going to see a recession in 2023, but yet the numbers keep proving the doubters wrong. Today’s Q3 GDP report showed annualized growth of 4.9%, which topped the estimate of 4.7%. It’s important to point out that this report does account for inflation. The primary driver of growth here was the consumer as spending increased 4% in the quarter and accounted for 2.7 percentage points of the total GDP increase. Both goods and services saw nice increases as spending grew 4.8% and 3.6%, respectively. Gross private domestic investment also saw a major increase of 8.4% and accounted for 1.5 percentage points of the total GDP increase. Within this category the change in private inventories was the major contributor as it accounted for 1.3 percentage points of the headline number. Government spending and investment also grew 4.6% and accounted for 0.8 percentage points of the headline number. The only detractor in the report was trade as the net exports of goods and services took away 0.08 percentage points from the headline number. While I believe this will likely be the highest GDP report we see for some time, I do believe we can still avoid a recession as the consumer remains in a good spot.

Financial Planning: Annuity Sales Continue to Grow
As market volatility continues, annuity sales continue to climb. Last quarter annuity sales hit $89.4 billion which is an 11% increase over the 3rd quarter of 2022, according to LIMRA. Sales reached a record in 2022 and that record may be beat in 2023. This is common during times of uncertainty in the market as investors and retirees look for safer places to put their money and many advisors are happy to sell them. This can feel more comfortable in the short term, but typically leads to underperformance in the long term. Retirees must remember that inflation and longevity risk, in addition to market risk, need to be factored into their retirement income plan. Annuities reduce portfolio volatility and can provide peace of mind at the expense of performance. Even in retirement, assets need to grow to outpace inflation and provide income, and lower performance increases the risk of running out of money too soon.

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Investing Volatility
A recent client survey by Charles Schwab produced some viable insights during difficult times like this. Over the longer term 33% of investors attributed their greatest investing success to patience through volatility. It is hard to patient during the ups and downs, but the reality is when holding good quality investments, it has proven to always be the right thing to do. Unfortunately, patient doesn’t mean 2-3 months and sometimes it may mean 2-3 years. The funny thing is that even though that patience has always paid off, our emotions lead us to want to sell at the worst times and many people end up doing so costing themselves drastically in the long term. The second most cited reason for clients’ greatest investing success was careful research which came from 16% of respondents. We always tell people that before we step in and by a company, it’s at least 10-15 hours of research. This doesn’t mean you won’t have volatility, but it does give you more comfort in knowing and understanding your investments during the difficult times which allows you to be patient. The biggest culprit for an investors worst investment was lack of research with 20% saying this was the cause. This doesn’t surprise me as many people are quick to jump into the hype or invest in something because a friend or family member thought it was a good idea. Unfortunately, like the survey shows we have seen this work out poorly for many investors. Another big culprit for the worst investment was high risk with 13% of respondents citing this reason. In today’s society people want to try and make a quick return, but that is not how investing works. People want to try and get big returns and they end up losing massively. We tell our client’s a reasonable target should be around 8-12% in the longer term. Anything in excess of this and you are likely taking big risks that could put your portfolio in jeopardy.

PCE
There wasn’t much in the Personal Consumption Expenditures Price Index (PCE), which is the Fed’s preferred measure for inflation. The headline number was up 3.4% which was the same as last month. The core PCE, which excludes food and energy was up 3.7% and was one-tenth lower than the reading in August. Core PCE hit a peak around 5.6% in early 2022. With the aggressive increase in short term rates, the recent increase in the 10-year treasury, and the resumption of student loan payments likely slowing the economy somewhat I still believe the Fed should allow these hikes to sink in and evaluate where we stand in the coming months.

Recession
It is interesting how many people believed we were going to see a recession in 2023, but yet the numbers keep proving the doubters wrong. Today’s Q3 GDP report showed annualized growth of 4.9%, which topped the estimate of 4.7%. It’s important to point out that this report does account for inflation. The primary driver of growth here was the consumer as spending increased 4% in the quarter and accounted for 2.7 percentage points of the total GDP increase. Both goods and services saw nice increases as spending grew 4.8% and 3.6%, respectively. Gross private domestic investment also saw a major increase of 8.4% and accounted for 1.5 percentage points of the total GDP increase. Within this category the change in private inventories was the major contributor as it accounted for 1.3 percentage points of the headline number. Government spending and investment also grew 4.6% and accounted for 0.8 percentage points of the headline number. The only detractor in the report was trade as the net exports of goods and services took away 0.08 percentage points from the headline number. While I believe this will likely be the highest GDP report we see for some time, I do believe we can still avoid a recession as the consumer remains in a good spot.

Financial Planning: Annuity Sales Continue to Grow
As market volatility continues, annuity sales continue to climb. Last quarter annuity sales hit $89.4 billion which is an 11% increase over the 3rd quarter of 2022, according to LIMRA. Sales reached a record in 2022 and that record may be beat in 2023. This is common during times of uncertainty in the market as investors and retirees look for safer places to put their money and many advisors are happy to sell them. This can feel more comfortable in the short term, but typically leads to underperformance in the long term. Retirees must remember that inflation and longevity risk, in addition to market risk, need to be factored into their retirement income plan. Annuities reduce portfolio volatility and can provide peace of mind at the expense of performance. Even in retirement, assets need to grow to outpace inflation and provide income, and lower performance increases the risk of running out of money too soon.

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