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In this episode of The A to Z English Podcast, Xochitl explains the tuna fish sandwich debate question to Jack. Then, Jack offers his opinion on the situation.
Transcript:
00:00:00
Jack
Hey, A to Z Listeners this is the English podcast listeners. It's Jack here and we just want to announce that we are now on WeChat. Our WeChat ID is A-Z English podcast that is A-Z English podcast, one word all lowercase.
00:00:17
Jack
And if you.
00:00:18
Jack
Join the group. You will be able to talk with me. You'll be able to.
00:00:22
Jack
Talk with social.
00:00:23
Jack
And we can answer your questions. We can read your comments on the podcast. So we'd love for you to join us and be active in our we chat group. Our WeChat ID is A-Z English podcast. Thanks. See you on the app.
00:00:50
Jack
Welcome to the A-Z English podcast. My name is Jack and I'm here with my co-host social. And today we have a topic talk, I believe, and this is the tuna fish sandwich debate and social. I have no idea what this means. Please enlighten me.
00:01:08
Xochitl
Jack, I came across this and it it's kind of popular amongst American medicines in the in the group that I found. So a girl was commenting about how.
00:01:21
Xochitl
She gave her.
00:01:23
Xochitl
Money to go buy and cheese sandwich with all the fixings, which for others who don't know means, you know, lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise, whatever. And she very specifically said she wanted that ham and cheese sandwich. So he went to subway, she gave him money for both of their sandwich.
00:01:37
발표자 3
Mm-hmm.
00:01:44
Xochitl
And I believe she wasn't feeling well or or something. So anyway, he went alone. So he went and bought a sandwich and he bought himself something different. And then he bought her a tuna fish salad sandwich, which he also likes. But he knows she doesn't like tuna.
00:02:05
Xochitl
And she doesn't really eat tuna, but he likes tuna, and he brought her the sandwich and told her that he brought her the tuna fish sandwich because he just wanted her to try his favorite sandwich, even though he got himself something different as well. So the commenters were divided on whether she should be grateful.
00:02:25
Xochitl
And she was actually saying she was grateful anyway, but that it kind of annoyed her. But she ended up feeling grateful that he went and got sandwiches, or if she should be upset.
00:02:36
Xochitl
That he got her something she didn't ask for with her money, that he liked, that he knew that she wouldn't really like. So what do you think, Jack?
00:02:45
Jack
Yeah, this one is. This is very uhm, here's an expression SUS like suspect, you know? Yeah, this is suck.
00:02:53
Xochitl
But yes, that's like me. So it's like weird or kind of suspicious. That's what it stands for. Suspicious.
00:02:56
Jack
Yeah.
00:03:00
Jack
Suspicious. Exactly.
00:03:03
Jack
This reminds me of an episode of The Simpsons where Homer.
00:03:09
Jack
Buys Marge a bowling ball for her birthday that is exactly like sized for his hand and his fingers. So basically he buys her a present that she will never use and doesn't wants and that.
00:03:29
Jack
He wants and that he will use.
00:03:31
Jack
And she is supposed to be grateful for that. And and this is like, this is just pure manipulation, you know, like, this is just this guy wants to eat all of the sandwiches and he's got his sandwich that he bought for himself.
00:03:43
Xochitl
Right.
00:03:53
Jack
And then he knows that she's not going to eat the tuna sandwich because she doesn't like tuna.
00:03:59
Jack
And he's trying to frame it as like I'm it's like.
00:04:04
Jack
It's it's like the it's, it's just it's like.
00:04:06
Jack
Kind of like a.
00:04:07
Jack
Gaslighting, almost like like I'm I'm giving you the exact opposite of what you want and and make and and you're and forcing you to say thank you for.
00:04:09
Xochitl
Yeah.
00:04:18
Jack
For me doing it's, it's just like it's, it's awful. I mean it's it's in the grand scheme of things. It's not a big deal. It's just a sandwich. But I would be, you know, greatly annoyed. And I know my wife would be really annoyed if she told me I want this sandwich and then I showed up with a totally different sandwich.
00:04:18
Xochitl
Great.
00:04:38
Jack
Which containing an ingredient that I know she doesn't like and then saying, oh, but this is my favorite sandwich. You gotta try it. It's like. Well, then, why don't you buy that your favorite sandwich for yourself and give her some of yours and buy her the sandwich that she wants?
00:04:56
Jack
Like, that's what an adult would do. This is what a child would do is what this guy did. So she's married, she's not married, or she's dating a a child. Not a, not a man, you know.
00:04:57
Xochitl
Yeah.
00:05:07
Xochitl
Yeah, OK, good. We're on the same side of this debate. A lot of men in the comments were saying.
00:05:13
Xochitl
Because he went and got the sandwiches, but also what he changed to you. If he if he was buying it with his own money.
00:05:23
Jack
No, it wouldn't. It wouldn't change because like again, like she, she specifically asked for a a sandwich, a ham and cheese sandwich.
00:05:33
Jack
And you're showing up with a tuna sandwich.
00:05:36
Jack
It's like.
00:05:39
Jack
You know, kind of like, uh, if I asked you to buy me an Americano and you show up with a macchiato or something, it's like, oh, no, I didn't want the, you know, extra 300 calories of sugar or whatever. I just wanted a, a plain Americano.
00:05:56
Jack
UM, it it's just, it's just it's kind of like I I guess the the sandwich is irrelevant. It's more of like, are you listening to your partner, are you, you know, are you paying attention and and are you do you understand their wants and needs and design?
00:06:12
Jack
Years. And are you putting those desires above your own desires to have basically two sandwiches and she has none. You know, that's the that's the the manipulation here. It's like it's like a scheme. I'm gonna. I'm gonna find a way to eat my sandwich and your sandwich and you're gonna like it.
00:06:27
Xochitl
Right.
00:06:34
Jack
You know, like you're gonna say thank you. It's it's like it's it's twisted. It's it's, it's diabolical, you know.
00:06:35
Xochitl
Right.
00:06:41
Xochitl
I know. And the crazy thing to me is that I I bet he had his wallet on him and he could have just bought himself an extra tuna sandwich with his.
00:06:48
Xochitl
Money and gotten her what she wanted, but he was like, Nah, I'm gonna use her own money, especially if like to get myself something I want. But I agree with you. I don't think it would have changed regardless. Like, it's like if someone asks you cause especially when you're in the long term partnership and especially if you get married and stuff, usually it becomes both of your money.
00:07:09
Xochitl
Right. So it doesn't really matter. It's just.
00:07:13
Xochitl
It comes down to are you listening to the person do.
00:07:15
Xochitl
You care about what they want.
00:07:17
Xochitl
Or are you a selfish?
00:07:19
Xochitl
You know.
00:07:21
Xochitl
Jerk.
00:07:21
Jack
B hole. Yeah, exactly. Why. Why can't you? Why can't you buy your girlfriend a a sandwich when she's not feeling well? It's like, come on, dude. You're collecting money from your girlfriend. I mean that. That really tells everything that says everything that needs that, that I need to know right there.
00:07:26
Xochitl
Yeah, yeah.
00:07:35
Xochitl
Then.
00:07:42
Jack
Is that the guys took the money from her and not only that, but he's going to buy himself a sandwich with her money. It's like.
00:07:53
Jack
Sorry, sorry, lady, but you, you this guy is not a keeper, you know. Throw this one back because there's plenty of fish in the sea. Yeah.
00:07:59
발표자
No.
00:08:00
Xochitl
And.
00:08:04
Xochitl
Yeah, it's funny because he actually said, oh, yeah, he was sweet to get me food. So like, he gets a pass. I was like.
00:08:11
Jack
Well, how? How many miles did he walk to?
00:08:13
Jack
Get the sandwich.
00:08:13
Xochitl
What I'm in that situation is make the person go either one.
00:08:18
Jack
Yeah. I mean, if he drove, then I can.
00:08:20
Xochitl
Times that I wanted or you're giving that money back. Pay for sandwich that I don't want.
00:08:26
Jack
Yeah.
00:08:27
Jack
No, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm on team. I'm I'm. I think she should have. She should have been annoyed with him. I don't know how angry you can get over a sandwich. I don't think you should start World War three. You know, in the relationship. But it's just like another little. It's it's like another little little like sign that this guy's.
00:08:29
Xochitl
Yeah, you're driving back.
00:08:44
발표자 3
Hey.
00:08:47
Jack
The total loser, you know? That's, that's what I've that's the way I interpret.
00:08:52
Jack
And I'm sure there's probably a million other ways that he's of kind of a loser in that relationship as well, so.
00:09:00
Xochitl
I'm curious to know what you would have done if you had been on the receiving end of getting a sandwich you didn't want. Like would, would you make the person go back? Would you ask for your money back or would or would you call them out? Or?
00:09:12
Xochitl
Would you?
00:09:14
Xochitl
What we say thank you and in your mind.
00:09:17
Jack
That's that's an interesting point.
00:09:20
Xochitl
Loser. I gotta cut him loose.
00:09:22
Jack
When it comes to me, there is no sandwich. Then I don't like. So you know, I'll eat anything at any time.
00:09:31
Jack
You know, it could be a horse meat, you know, sandwich. I'll probably eat it, you know? And uh, I wouldn't say anything. I'll, I'll.
00:09:41
Jack
Yeah, it it it. It's not it. It doesn't. Uh, the situation doesn't fit well with me because there's nothing on the subway menu that I wouldn't eat. Maybe if I got a vegetarian sandwich should be like a little disappointed, but still eat it. You know, I wouldn't complain, you know?
00:09:59
Jack
But in this case.
00:10:02
Jack
I think she should be slightly annoyed because he's trying to be manipulative, you know, and it's it's it's obvious and he's trying to get her to.
00:10:12
Jack
Actively participate in in the manipulation and be like you know, be grateful for.
00:10:20
Jack
A trick that he's pulling on her. So you know, I just, I I don't appreciate the. I mean I appreciate the effort on his part to try to get.
00:10:29
Jack
Away with this?
00:10:30
Jack
In a in a weird in a twisted way. I kind of appreciate it, but but I I hope that she sees through it and and it doesn't fall for for the.
00:10:39
발표자
Right.
00:10:40
Jack
The the silliness of this of this guy's excuse. He's he's fine. Yeah.
00:10:44
발표자
Right.
00:10:46
Xochitl
So this wouldn't fly with you. And what would you do? Would you send the person back for a sandwich? Would you ask for your money back, or would you just quietly accept it? Yeah. Leave a comment down below at AZ englishpodcast.com. Shoot us an e-mail at azspodcast@gmail.com and join our WeChat WhatsApp groups to make sure that you can.
00:11:07
Xochitl
Talk to Jack and I directly.
00:11:09
Xochitl
Also, Jack and I have started a class on zoom, so if you would like the link to that, make sure to join our WeChat group or you can also message checking directly on the A-Z English podcast WhatsApp or we chat and you can join our Zoom English corner and we'll see you guys.
00:11:28
Xochitl
Next time, bye bye.
00:11:29
Jack
Bye.
00:11:29
발표자 3
bye
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Manage episode 422780512 series 3366657
In this episode of The A to Z English Podcast, Xochitl explains the tuna fish sandwich debate question to Jack. Then, Jack offers his opinion on the situation.
Transcript:
00:00:00
Jack
Hey, A to Z Listeners this is the English podcast listeners. It's Jack here and we just want to announce that we are now on WeChat. Our WeChat ID is A-Z English podcast that is A-Z English podcast, one word all lowercase.
00:00:17
Jack
And if you.
00:00:18
Jack
Join the group. You will be able to talk with me. You'll be able to.
00:00:22
Jack
Talk with social.
00:00:23
Jack
And we can answer your questions. We can read your comments on the podcast. So we'd love for you to join us and be active in our we chat group. Our WeChat ID is A-Z English podcast. Thanks. See you on the app.
00:00:50
Jack
Welcome to the A-Z English podcast. My name is Jack and I'm here with my co-host social. And today we have a topic talk, I believe, and this is the tuna fish sandwich debate and social. I have no idea what this means. Please enlighten me.
00:01:08
Xochitl
Jack, I came across this and it it's kind of popular amongst American medicines in the in the group that I found. So a girl was commenting about how.
00:01:21
Xochitl
She gave her.
00:01:23
Xochitl
Money to go buy and cheese sandwich with all the fixings, which for others who don't know means, you know, lettuce, tomato, mayonnaise, whatever. And she very specifically said she wanted that ham and cheese sandwich. So he went to subway, she gave him money for both of their sandwich.
00:01:37
발표자 3
Mm-hmm.
00:01:44
Xochitl
And I believe she wasn't feeling well or or something. So anyway, he went alone. So he went and bought a sandwich and he bought himself something different. And then he bought her a tuna fish salad sandwich, which he also likes. But he knows she doesn't like tuna.
00:02:05
Xochitl
And she doesn't really eat tuna, but he likes tuna, and he brought her the sandwich and told her that he brought her the tuna fish sandwich because he just wanted her to try his favorite sandwich, even though he got himself something different as well. So the commenters were divided on whether she should be grateful.
00:02:25
Xochitl
And she was actually saying she was grateful anyway, but that it kind of annoyed her. But she ended up feeling grateful that he went and got sandwiches, or if she should be upset.
00:02:36
Xochitl
That he got her something she didn't ask for with her money, that he liked, that he knew that she wouldn't really like. So what do you think, Jack?
00:02:45
Jack
Yeah, this one is. This is very uhm, here's an expression SUS like suspect, you know? Yeah, this is suck.
00:02:53
Xochitl
But yes, that's like me. So it's like weird or kind of suspicious. That's what it stands for. Suspicious.
00:02:56
Jack
Yeah.
00:03:00
Jack
Suspicious. Exactly.
00:03:03
Jack
This reminds me of an episode of The Simpsons where Homer.
00:03:09
Jack
Buys Marge a bowling ball for her birthday that is exactly like sized for his hand and his fingers. So basically he buys her a present that she will never use and doesn't wants and that.
00:03:29
Jack
He wants and that he will use.
00:03:31
Jack
And she is supposed to be grateful for that. And and this is like, this is just pure manipulation, you know, like, this is just this guy wants to eat all of the sandwiches and he's got his sandwich that he bought for himself.
00:03:43
Xochitl
Right.
00:03:53
Jack
And then he knows that she's not going to eat the tuna sandwich because she doesn't like tuna.
00:03:59
Jack
And he's trying to frame it as like I'm it's like.
00:04:04
Jack
It's it's like the it's, it's just it's like.
00:04:06
Jack
Kind of like a.
00:04:07
Jack
Gaslighting, almost like like I'm I'm giving you the exact opposite of what you want and and make and and you're and forcing you to say thank you for.
00:04:09
Xochitl
Yeah.
00:04:18
Jack
For me doing it's, it's just like it's, it's awful. I mean it's it's in the grand scheme of things. It's not a big deal. It's just a sandwich. But I would be, you know, greatly annoyed. And I know my wife would be really annoyed if she told me I want this sandwich and then I showed up with a totally different sandwich.
00:04:18
Xochitl
Great.
00:04:38
Jack
Which containing an ingredient that I know she doesn't like and then saying, oh, but this is my favorite sandwich. You gotta try it. It's like. Well, then, why don't you buy that your favorite sandwich for yourself and give her some of yours and buy her the sandwich that she wants?
00:04:56
Jack
Like, that's what an adult would do. This is what a child would do is what this guy did. So she's married, she's not married, or she's dating a a child. Not a, not a man, you know.
00:04:57
Xochitl
Yeah.
00:05:07
Xochitl
Yeah, OK, good. We're on the same side of this debate. A lot of men in the comments were saying.
00:05:13
Xochitl
Because he went and got the sandwiches, but also what he changed to you. If he if he was buying it with his own money.
00:05:23
Jack
No, it wouldn't. It wouldn't change because like again, like she, she specifically asked for a a sandwich, a ham and cheese sandwich.
00:05:33
Jack
And you're showing up with a tuna sandwich.
00:05:36
Jack
It's like.
00:05:39
Jack
You know, kind of like, uh, if I asked you to buy me an Americano and you show up with a macchiato or something, it's like, oh, no, I didn't want the, you know, extra 300 calories of sugar or whatever. I just wanted a, a plain Americano.
00:05:56
Jack
UM, it it's just, it's just it's kind of like I I guess the the sandwich is irrelevant. It's more of like, are you listening to your partner, are you, you know, are you paying attention and and are you do you understand their wants and needs and design?
00:06:12
Jack
Years. And are you putting those desires above your own desires to have basically two sandwiches and she has none. You know, that's the that's the the manipulation here. It's like it's like a scheme. I'm gonna. I'm gonna find a way to eat my sandwich and your sandwich and you're gonna like it.
00:06:27
Xochitl
Right.
00:06:34
Jack
You know, like you're gonna say thank you. It's it's like it's it's twisted. It's it's, it's diabolical, you know.
00:06:35
Xochitl
Right.
00:06:41
Xochitl
I know. And the crazy thing to me is that I I bet he had his wallet on him and he could have just bought himself an extra tuna sandwich with his.
00:06:48
Xochitl
Money and gotten her what she wanted, but he was like, Nah, I'm gonna use her own money, especially if like to get myself something I want. But I agree with you. I don't think it would have changed regardless. Like, it's like if someone asks you cause especially when you're in the long term partnership and especially if you get married and stuff, usually it becomes both of your money.
00:07:09
Xochitl
Right. So it doesn't really matter. It's just.
00:07:13
Xochitl
It comes down to are you listening to the person do.
00:07:15
Xochitl
You care about what they want.
00:07:17
Xochitl
Or are you a selfish?
00:07:19
Xochitl
You know.
00:07:21
Xochitl
Jerk.
00:07:21
Jack
B hole. Yeah, exactly. Why. Why can't you? Why can't you buy your girlfriend a a sandwich when she's not feeling well? It's like, come on, dude. You're collecting money from your girlfriend. I mean that. That really tells everything that says everything that needs that, that I need to know right there.
00:07:26
Xochitl
Yeah, yeah.
00:07:35
Xochitl
Then.
00:07:42
Jack
Is that the guys took the money from her and not only that, but he's going to buy himself a sandwich with her money. It's like.
00:07:53
Jack
Sorry, sorry, lady, but you, you this guy is not a keeper, you know. Throw this one back because there's plenty of fish in the sea. Yeah.
00:07:59
발표자
No.
00:08:00
Xochitl
And.
00:08:04
Xochitl
Yeah, it's funny because he actually said, oh, yeah, he was sweet to get me food. So like, he gets a pass. I was like.
00:08:11
Jack
Well, how? How many miles did he walk to?
00:08:13
Jack
Get the sandwich.
00:08:13
Xochitl
What I'm in that situation is make the person go either one.
00:08:18
Jack
Yeah. I mean, if he drove, then I can.
00:08:20
Xochitl
Times that I wanted or you're giving that money back. Pay for sandwich that I don't want.
00:08:26
Jack
Yeah.
00:08:27
Jack
No, I'm. I'm. I'm. I'm on team. I'm I'm. I think she should have. She should have been annoyed with him. I don't know how angry you can get over a sandwich. I don't think you should start World War three. You know, in the relationship. But it's just like another little. It's it's like another little little like sign that this guy's.
00:08:29
Xochitl
Yeah, you're driving back.
00:08:44
발표자 3
Hey.
00:08:47
Jack
The total loser, you know? That's, that's what I've that's the way I interpret.
00:08:52
Jack
And I'm sure there's probably a million other ways that he's of kind of a loser in that relationship as well, so.
00:09:00
Xochitl
I'm curious to know what you would have done if you had been on the receiving end of getting a sandwich you didn't want. Like would, would you make the person go back? Would you ask for your money back or would or would you call them out? Or?
00:09:12
Xochitl
Would you?
00:09:14
Xochitl
What we say thank you and in your mind.
00:09:17
Jack
That's that's an interesting point.
00:09:20
Xochitl
Loser. I gotta cut him loose.
00:09:22
Jack
When it comes to me, there is no sandwich. Then I don't like. So you know, I'll eat anything at any time.
00:09:31
Jack
You know, it could be a horse meat, you know, sandwich. I'll probably eat it, you know? And uh, I wouldn't say anything. I'll, I'll.
00:09:41
Jack
Yeah, it it it. It's not it. It doesn't. Uh, the situation doesn't fit well with me because there's nothing on the subway menu that I wouldn't eat. Maybe if I got a vegetarian sandwich should be like a little disappointed, but still eat it. You know, I wouldn't complain, you know?
00:09:59
Jack
But in this case.
00:10:02
Jack
I think she should be slightly annoyed because he's trying to be manipulative, you know, and it's it's it's obvious and he's trying to get her to.
00:10:12
Jack
Actively participate in in the manipulation and be like you know, be grateful for.
00:10:20
Jack
A trick that he's pulling on her. So you know, I just, I I don't appreciate the. I mean I appreciate the effort on his part to try to get.
00:10:29
Jack
Away with this?
00:10:30
Jack
In a in a weird in a twisted way. I kind of appreciate it, but but I I hope that she sees through it and and it doesn't fall for for the.
00:10:39
발표자
Right.
00:10:40
Jack
The the silliness of this of this guy's excuse. He's he's fine. Yeah.
00:10:44
발표자
Right.
00:10:46
Xochitl
So this wouldn't fly with you. And what would you do? Would you send the person back for a sandwich? Would you ask for your money back, or would you just quietly accept it? Yeah. Leave a comment down below at AZ englishpodcast.com. Shoot us an e-mail at azspodcast@gmail.com and join our WeChat WhatsApp groups to make sure that you can.
00:11:07
Xochitl
Talk to Jack and I directly.
00:11:09
Xochitl
Also, Jack and I have started a class on zoom, so if you would like the link to that, make sure to join our WeChat group or you can also message checking directly on the A-Z English podcast WhatsApp or we chat and you can join our Zoom English corner and we'll see you guys.
00:11:28
Xochitl
Next time, bye bye.
00:11:29
Jack
Bye.
00:11:29
발표자 3
bye
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