From Silence to Advocacy

The Inclusion Bites Podcast

Serving with Pride and the Battle Against LGBTQ+ Discrimination in the Military

Emma Riley explores her poignant journey from silence to advocacy, highlighting the profound challenges and triumphs of championing LGBTQ+ rights and visibility within the military and beyond.

In this compelling episode of The Inclusion Bites Podcast, Joanne Lockwood speaks with Emma Riley about the stark realities and profound challenges of LGBTQ+ rights within the military. Emma shares her harrowing journey from being ousted from the Royal Navy due to her sexuality to becoming a pivotal activist for change. They discuss the invasive and demeaning treatments she endured, the subsequent legal battles, and her victory at the European Court of Human Rights, which ultimately led to a transformative shift in military policies. Joanne adds depth to the conversation with her perspectives on the broader implications of such discrimination.

Emma, now a programme governance and operation manager and an active advocate for LGBTQ+ rights, recounts her story with remarkable resilience. Her activism is not limited to her legal victories; she is also deeply involved with Diversity Role Models, a charity aimed at eradicating LGBT bullying in educational settings. By sharing her experiences, Emma aims to inspire others to advocate for equity and to support those who feel marginalized in various spheres of life, especially in armed forces and corporate environments.

The dialogue also touches on the significance of Pride events as both a celebration and a protest, mirroring Emma's dual role as a celebrant of diversity and a challenger of injustices. Her story sheds light on not only the struggles but also the triumphs that can be achieved through persistence and courage.

Listeners are taken through a journey of emotional lows and highs, as Emma details her transformation from a silenced servicewoman to a vocal advocate. Joanne's insights offer further understanding of how these experiences relate to broader societal changes.

The episode wraps up by reaffirming the importance of fighting for what is right and encouraging societal shifts towards acceptance and justice. This narrative not only offers solace to those with similar experiences but also serves as a call to action for allies to support necessary changes in legislation, military practices, and social norms. An urgent reminder that individual stories can catalyse collective progress, this episode is a must-listen for anyone committed to fostering a more inclusive world.

Published: 15.08.2024 Recorded: 29.04.2024 Duration: 0:56:23 Downloads:

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Clips and Quotes

Breaking Gender Barriers in the Navy: “And that was the first ever mixed sex class that went through HMS Mercury.”
— Emma Riley [00:06:06 → 00:06:11]

Unrelenting Interrogation: “I mean, I can’t remember the questions they asked, but it was just continuous pressure to admit that you were gay.”
— Emma Riley [00:14:32 → 00:14:39]

Search Procedures and Privacy: “well, if you mean dildos or vibrators, no, but please do search the rest of the block. I’m sure you’ll find some.”
— Emma Riley [00:15:49 → 00:15:54]

Exploring Forgiveness and Injustice: “Well, the only reason you can be blackmailed was because you’ve got a ruling place. You’re not supposed to be gay.”
— Emma Riley [00:19:29 → 00:19:34]

Resilience in Leadership: “people like me make great executives, because they’ve gone through so much, they’ve overcome so much, they don’t get phased by the small stuff.”
— Emma Riley [00:31:02 → 00:31:13]

Military Equality Triumph: “it is a violation of the article 8, I think it was, in which everybody has a right to a private life. And effectively they stated that the ban on homosexuals serving in the military was illegal.”
— Emma Riley [00:36:49 → 00:37:02]

Overcoming Personal Challenges Through Vulnerability: “And, honestly, the only reason that I can really speak with you now is because I met the person who’s now my wife, and I was able to start relaxing into being vulnerable with somebody for probably the first time in my life. I completely credit her with with bringing me alive, basically, in in in front of in front of everything.”
— Emma Riley [00:40:55 → 00:41:16]

The Power of Sharing Personal Stories: “The next thing that happened is that my stepdaughter asked me to give a presentation to her school. So I got asked by the school, a secondary school, to go in and do an assembly, and it was the whole school. And so for the first time in my life, I put a PowerPoint presentation together. I got some photographs together.”
— Emma Riley [00:43:02 → 00:43:21]

Impact of Inspirational Speeches: “You see, you just don’t know who you’re affecting.”
— Emma Riley [00:44:30 → 00:44:32]

Veterans Seeking Justice: “the more I can speak publicly about this, the more I can try and reach other veterans who maybe haven’t heard about the reparations, who haven’t had the opportunity to connect with other veterans because it to be able to tell your story to somebody who really understands is a very powerful thing.”
— Emma Riley [00:51:18 → 00:51:37]

Definition of Terms Used

Authentic Self

• Definition: The ‘authentic self’ refers to an individual’s true, uninhibited personality, values, and beliefs, free from societal influences or pressures to conform.
• Relevance: Encouraging individuals to embrace and express their authentic selves at the workplace or in social settings promotes mental well-being and creates an inclusive environment where diverse perspectives are valued.
• Examples: Sharing personal stories or backgrounds that shape one’s identity, openly discussing one’s beliefs and values, or showcasing unique aspects of one’s cultural heritage at work.
• Related Terms: Self-identity, Integrity, Personal Authenticity
• Common Misconceptions: It’s often believed that professionalism requires leaving personal characteristics at the door; however, embracing an authentic self can enhance job satisfaction and interpersonal relations.

Restitution

• Definition: Restitution involves restoring or compensating someone for loss, damage, or suffering they have experienced, often through legal or financial means.
• Relevance: In contexts like Emma’s, restitution is crucial for acknowledging past wrongs, particularly institutional discrimination, and providing survivors with a form of justice that acknowledges their experiences.
• Examples: Financial compensations for unlawful dismissals, official apologies, or reinstatement of positions or benefits wrongfully denied.
• Related Terms: Reparation, Compensation, Justice, Redress
• Common Misconceptions: Restitution is frequently seen only as monetary; however, it can also include other forms of correction like public apologies or systemic changes.

LGBT Bullying

• Definition: LGBT bullying refers to harassment or intimidation directed towards individuals based on their sexual orientation or gender identity.
• Relevance: Addressing and mitigating LGBT bullying is essential for fostering safe environments in schools, workplaces, and communities, thus allowing everyone the freedom to be their authentic selves without fear.
• Examples: Name-calling, derogatory jokes, physical assaults, or exclusion from social or professional groups specifically because of someone’s LGBT status.
• Related Terms: Homophobia, Transphobia, Discrimination, Harassment
• Common Misconceptions: Some believe that LGBT bullying is just a form of teasing and a rite of passage, but it can lead to serious emotional and psychological consequences.

Euro-centric View

• Definition: Euro-centricity refers to a worldview that emphasizes Western norms and values at the expense of other cultures, which can lead to a misunderstanding or devaluation of non-Western perspectives, traditions, and contributions.
• Relevance: Recognizing and challenging Euro-centric views is crucial in creating a diverse and inclusive atmosphere, where the rich tapestry of global cultures is acknowledged and respected.
• Examples: Over-representation of European history in education systems, undervaluing non-Western solutions in business practices, or biased media representation.
• Related Terms: Cultural Imperialism, Ethnocentrism, Global Diversity
• Common Misconceptions: Often, Euro-centrism is misinterpreted as merely appreciating European culture, rather than recognizing it involves the marginalization of other cultures.

Safe Spaces

• Definition: Safe spaces are environments in which individuals feel they are protected from discrimination, criticism, harassment, and any other emotional or physical harm.
• Relevance: Creating safe spaces, especially for marginalized and vulnerable groups, is crucial in promoting genuine expression and facilitating impactful discussions without fear of retaliation or judgment.
• Examples: Support groups, inclusive workplaces, specific chat rooms or forums where individuals can express themselves freely.
• Related Terms: Inclusive Environment, Psychological Safety, Accessibility
• Common Misconceptions: The concept of safe spaces is sometimes criticzed as coddling or shielding individuals from real-world challenges, when actually, they are about respecting and understanding different boundaries and experiences.

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Chapters

1. Exploring inclusion, belonging, and societal transformation together. (00:00:00)

2. Enthusiastic volunteer becomes first female class leader. (00:05:52)

3. Struggled to find camaraderie, faced bullying. (00:08:41)

4. Struggling with bullying, stress, and coming out. (00:12:21)

5. Passionate determination leads to intense interrogation. (00:14:06)

6. Uncertain feelings about being outed as gay. (00:18:48)

7. Feeling scared about leaving Navy and coming out. (00:22:18)

8. Transition from military to IT analyst role. (00:26:30)

9. Overcoming adversity, building a successful career. (00:28:48)

10. CEO recognises value of resilience in employees. (00:30:49)

11. Royal Navy loses tapes, leading to change. (00:35:57)

12. Dealt with trust issues through counselling, changed. (00:39:49)

13. Inspiring impact of talks and leadership in singing. (00:44:12)

14. Embrace diversity, spread empathy and understanding. (00:47:01)

15. Veteran aims to share experiences for awareness. (00:51:15)

16. Rishi Sunak and Ben Wallace's heartfelt apologies. (00:53:53)

17. Joanne Lockwood promises to return with more. (00:56:02)