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Jay Bhattacharya — Thinking Critically About COVID: Conspiracies vs. Nuance and Facts

 
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Jay Bhattacharya is a Professor of Health Policy at Stanford University and a research associate at the National Bureau of Economics Research. He directs Stanford’s Center for Demography and Economics of Health and Aging. Dr. Bhattacharya’s research focuses on the health and well-being of vulnerable populations, with a particular emphasis on the role of government programs, biomedical innovation, and economics. Dr. Bhattacharya’s recent research focuses on the epidemiology of COVID-19 as well as an evaluation of policy responses to the epidemic.

He became famous—or infamous in some circles—for his co-authorship, with Sunetra Gupta of the University of Oxford and Martin Kulldorff of Harvard, of the Great Barrington Declaration, which advocated lifting COVID-19 restrictions on lower-risk groups to develop herd immunity through widespread infection, “while promoting the fringe notion that vulnerable people could be simultaneously protected from the virus.” (Wikipedia) In a private email to Anthony Fauci, NIH director Francis Collins called the authors of the declaration “fringe epidemiologists” and said that “(it) seems to be getting a lot of attention — and even a co-signature from Nobel Prize winner Mike Leavitt at Stanford. There needs to be a quick and devastating published take down of its premises.”

That is when he became known as a “fringe epidemiologist”.

In fact, he has published 135 articles in top peer-reviewed scientific journals in medicine, economics, health policy, epidemiology, statistics, law, and public health among other fields. He holds an MD and a PhD in economics, both earned at Stanford University.

Shermer and Bhattacharya discuss:

  • loss of trust in medical and scientific institutions (Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins)
  • overall assessment of what went right and wrong with the COVID-19 pandemic
  • testing, masking, social isolation
  • Is the cure worse than the disease?
  • closing of schools, restaurants, salons, parks, beaches, hiking trails, etc.
  • the cost to the economy of the shut downs
  • the cost to the education of children of the shut downs
  • Precautionary Principle
  • comparative method: which countries and states did better or worse?
  • Lab Leak hypothesis vs. Zoonomic hypothesis
  • living with SARS-CoV-2 and its variants
  • RFK, Jr. and his conspiracy theories
  • debating anti-vaxxers (Rogan and elsewhere)
  • treatments: hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, remdesivir, Vitamin D, Paxlovid, Tamiflu, retroviral medicines, monoclonal antibodies
  • high risk vs. low risk groups; age, sex, race, pregnancy, weight, preconditions, immune compromised
  • myocarditis, Robert Malone, mRNA vaccines, Joe Rogan, RFKJ, Peter Hotez
  • The Great Barrington Declaration (“focused protection” of the people most at risk)
  • Wall Street Journal OpEd: “Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say?”, which argued there was little evidence to support shelter-in-place orders and quarantines
  • In March 2021, Bhattacharya called the COVID-19 lockdowns the “biggest public health mistake we’ve ever made” and argued that “The harm to people is catastrophic”. Blacklisted by Twitter.

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Jay Bhattacharya (photo)

Jay Bhattacharya is a Professor of Health Policy at Stanford University and a research associate at the National Bureau of Economics Research. He directs Stanford’s Center for Demography and Economics of Health and Aging. Dr. Bhattacharya’s research focuses on the health and well-being of vulnerable populations, with a particular emphasis on the role of government programs, biomedical innovation, and economics. Dr. Bhattacharya’s recent research focuses on the epidemiology of COVID-19 as well as an evaluation of policy responses to the epidemic.

He became famous—or infamous in some circles—for his co-authorship, with Sunetra Gupta of the University of Oxford and Martin Kulldorff of Harvard, of the Great Barrington Declaration, which advocated lifting COVID-19 restrictions on lower-risk groups to develop herd immunity through widespread infection, “while promoting the fringe notion that vulnerable people could be simultaneously protected from the virus.” (Wikipedia) In a private email to Anthony Fauci, NIH director Francis Collins called the authors of the declaration “fringe epidemiologists” and said that “(it) seems to be getting a lot of attention — and even a co-signature from Nobel Prize winner Mike Leavitt at Stanford. There needs to be a quick and devastating published take down of its premises.”

That is when he became known as a “fringe epidemiologist”.

In fact, he has published 135 articles in top peer-reviewed scientific journals in medicine, economics, health policy, epidemiology, statistics, law, and public health among other fields. He holds an MD and a PhD in economics, both earned at Stanford University.

Shermer and Bhattacharya discuss:

  • loss of trust in medical and scientific institutions (Anthony Fauci, Francis Collins)
  • overall assessment of what went right and wrong with the COVID-19 pandemic
  • testing, masking, social isolation
  • Is the cure worse than the disease?
  • closing of schools, restaurants, salons, parks, beaches, hiking trails, etc.
  • the cost to the economy of the shut downs
  • the cost to the education of children of the shut downs
  • Precautionary Principle
  • comparative method: which countries and states did better or worse?
  • Lab Leak hypothesis vs. Zoonomic hypothesis
  • living with SARS-CoV-2 and its variants
  • RFK, Jr. and his conspiracy theories
  • debating anti-vaxxers (Rogan and elsewhere)
  • treatments: hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, remdesivir, Vitamin D, Paxlovid, Tamiflu, retroviral medicines, monoclonal antibodies
  • high risk vs. low risk groups; age, sex, race, pregnancy, weight, preconditions, immune compromised
  • myocarditis, Robert Malone, mRNA vaccines, Joe Rogan, RFKJ, Peter Hotez
  • The Great Barrington Declaration (“focused protection” of the people most at risk)
  • Wall Street Journal OpEd: “Is the Coronavirus as Deadly as They Say?”, which argued there was little evidence to support shelter-in-place orders and quarantines
  • In March 2021, Bhattacharya called the COVID-19 lockdowns the “biggest public health mistake we’ve ever made” and argued that “The harm to people is catastrophic”. Blacklisted by Twitter.

If you enjoy the podcast, please show your support by making a $5 or $10 monthly donation.

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