S3E6: 'Keys to Good Privacy Implementation: Exploring Anonymization, Consent, & DSARs' with Jake Ottenwaelder (Integrative Privacy)

The Shifting Privacy Left Podcast

In this week's episode, I sat down with Jake Ottenwaelder, Principal Privacy Engineer at Integrative Privacy LLC. Throughout our conversation, we discuss Jake’s holistic approach to privacy implementation that considers business, engineering, and personal objectives, as well as the role of anonymization, consent management, and DSAR processes for greater privacy.
Jake believes privacy implementation must account for the interconnectedness of privacy technologies and human interactions. He highlights what a successful implementation looks like and the negative consequences when done poorly. We also dive into the challenges of implementing privacy in fast-paced, engineering-driven organizations. We talk about the complexities of anonymizing data (a very high bar) and he offers valuable suggestions and strategies for achieving anonymity while making the necessary resources more accessible. Plus, Jake shares his advice for organizational leaders to see themselves as servant-leaders, leaving a positive legacy in the field of privacy.

Topics Covered:

• What inspired Jake’s initial shift from security engineering to privacy engineering, with a focus on privacy implementation
• How Jake's previous role at Axon helped him shift his mindset to privacy
• Jake’s holistic approach to implementing privacy
• The qualities of a successful implementation and the consequences of an unsuccessful implementation
• The challenges of implementing privacy in large organizations
• Common blockers to the deployment of anonymization
• Jake’s perspective on using differential privacy techniques to achieve anonymity
• Common blockers to implementing consent management capabilities
• The importance of understanding data flow & lineage, and auditing data deletion
• Holistic approaches to implementing a streamlined and compliant DSAR process with minimal business disruption
• Why Jake believes it's important to maintain a servant-leader mindset in privacy

Guest Info:

• Connect with Jake on LinkedIn
• Integrative Privacy LLC

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Chapters

1. S3E6: 'Keys to Good Privacy Implementation: Exploring Anonymization, Consent, & DSARs' with Jake Ottenwaelder (Integrative Privacy) (00:00:00)

2. Introducing Jake Ottenwaeger, Principal Privacy Engineer at Integrative Privacy (00:02:03)

3. How Jake moved from Security Engineer to Privacy Engineer and how he shifted his mindset to foster solutions for privacy (00:02:55)

4. Jake talks about how previous role at Axon helped him shift into a privacy mindset (00:11:45)

5. Jake explains why taking an integrative approach to privacy is important to him (00:13:10)

6. Jake's definition of a 'successful implementation' and what makes for a 'bad implementation' or not as successful (00:16:00)

7. Jake discusses consequences for bad implementations of privacy, like technical debt. (00:19:57)

8. Debra & Jake discuss the challenges of working in privacy at an engineering heavy organization where you want to understand the privacy implications of everything, but usually don't have the ability to do so. (00:24:14)

9. Jake shares common blockers to the deployment of anonymization in orgs (00:31:04)

10. Jake shares the current blockers to implementing Consent Management capabilities into organizations (00:43:10)

11. Jake describes the current blockers to implementing rights management capabilities through DSARs (00:45:50)

12. Jake explains why it's important to have a servant-leader mindset in privacy. (00:52:08)