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The Legal System Is Biased Against Vegans. Here’s How We Won Anyways. (with Justin Marceau) (Ep. 43)

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Justin Marceau was lead counsel in the People v. Tracy Murphy. I speak to him about the serious misconduct we revealed in the case – & what it tells us about the broader problem of criminal justice.

The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org!

Contact/follow Animal Activist Legal Defense Project:

https://www.law.du.edu/content/animal-activist-legal-defense-project

https://www.instagram.com/aaldp_du/

https://x.com/AALDP_DU

Chapters:

Chapter 1) 00:00-11:25 Intro, Tracy Murphy’s case & trial, Animal Activist Legal Defense Project, & the defense gets new information days before trial starts

Chapter 2) 11:26-20:56 At the dismissal: the judge reprimands defense while wrongly praising the prosecution, “poverty of low expectations” in the criminal justice system, constitutional violations against Tracy, compliments about the legal team working well together, & Tracy’s bravery to not take a plea deal

Chapter 3) 20:57-28:01 Would destruction of evidence have been enough to dismiss the case without familial relationship disclosure, & not a strong case for the prosecution in front of a jury

Chapter 4) 28:02- 36:34 Do people in the US really have presumption of innocence in the American legal system, & Tracy’s learning her legal rights to the cows

Chapter 5) 36:35-47:56 Tracy followed the law in this case, law students & lawyers should learn how to emotionally be there for their clients, intense animal agricultural opposition & disinformation against Tracy’s compassionate choices, & how Tracy has helped the authorities & community with animals abuse cases

Chapter 6) 47:57-56:24 Employees betraying Tracy, harassment against Tracy, how society & local communities are divided, & the power of the prosecution

Chapter 7) 56:25-1:13:54 Justin & Wayne working together & with the legal team for animal rights activists, & Justin’s advice to new lawyers & activists

Chapter 8) 1:13:55-1:27:14 How to make the legal system more accessible, the need for authenticity in personal & public interactions, Wayne’s proposed changes to the court, & lawyers empowering their activist clients

Chapter 9) 1:27:15-1:37:45 What Justin learned from the Asha Rescue Trial, Wayne’s arguments in court, getting to know local lawyers, final thoughts, & check out the website Animal Activist Legal Defense Project (link above)

Chapter 10) 1:37:46-1:38:02 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis

Follow Justin:

https://x.com/justin_marceau

https://www.facebook.com/justin.marceau.9

https://www.linkedin.com/in/marceau-justin-97b33015/

Support Asha's Farm Sanctuary & Tracy:

https://www.ashasfarmsanctuary.org

https://www.facebook.com/@ashasfarmsanctuary

https://www.instagram.com/ashasfarmsanctuary

https://twitter.com/AshasSanctuary

https://www.tiktok.com/@ashas_farm_sanctuary?lang=en

https://www.facebook.com/tracy.murphy.3572

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracy-murphy-4b40b410/

Books/Essays:

Beyond Cages: Animal Law & Criminal Punishment by Justin Marceau

Carceral Logics: Human Incarceration & Animal Captivity by (Editors) Lori Gruen & Justin Marceau

Truth & Transparency: Undercover Investigations in the Twenty-First Century by Alan K. Chen & Justin Marceau

Cases & Materials on the Death Penalty by Nina Rivkind, Steven Shatz, Sam Kamin, & Justin Marceau

“Federal Habeas Corpus: Cases & Materials” by Andrea Lyon, Emily Hughes, Mary Prosser, & Justin Marceau

Death Penalty in a Nutshell by Victor Streib, Sam Kamin, & Justin Marceau

Voluntary Prosecution & the Case of Animal Rescue by Justin Marceau, Wayne Hsiung, & Steffen Seitz (Harvard Law Review)

https://harvardlawreview.org/forum/vol-137/voluntary-prosecution-and-the-case-of-animal-rescue/

Books mentioned:

The Art of Choosing by Sheena Iyengar

The Paradox of Choice: Why More Is Less by Barry Schwartz

Movies mentioned:

The Joker (2019)

  continue reading

106 episodes

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Manage episode 444220601 series 2941284
Content provided by Wayne Hsiung. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Wayne Hsiung or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://player.fm/legal.

Justin Marceau was lead counsel in the People v. Tracy Murphy. I speak to him about the serious misconduct we revealed in the case – & what it tells us about the broader problem of criminal justice.

The Simple Heart on Substack - Subscribe to Wayne Hsiung's newsletter to learn more about the #RightToRescue at https://www.simpleheart.org!

Contact/follow Animal Activist Legal Defense Project:

https://www.law.du.edu/content/animal-activist-legal-defense-project

https://www.instagram.com/aaldp_du/

https://x.com/AALDP_DU

Chapters:

Chapter 1) 00:00-11:25 Intro, Tracy Murphy’s case & trial, Animal Activist Legal Defense Project, & the defense gets new information days before trial starts

Chapter 2) 11:26-20:56 At the dismissal: the judge reprimands defense while wrongly praising the prosecution, “poverty of low expectations” in the criminal justice system, constitutional violations against Tracy, compliments about the legal team working well together, & Tracy’s bravery to not take a plea deal

Chapter 3) 20:57-28:01 Would destruction of evidence have been enough to dismiss the case without familial relationship disclosure, & not a strong case for the prosecution in front of a jury

Chapter 4) 28:02- 36:34 Do people in the US really have presumption of innocence in the American legal system, & Tracy’s learning her legal rights to the cows

Chapter 5) 36:35-47:56 Tracy followed the law in this case, law students & lawyers should learn how to emotionally be there for their clients, intense animal agricultural opposition & disinformation against Tracy’s compassionate choices, & how Tracy has helped the authorities & community with animals abuse cases

Chapter 6) 47:57-56:24 Employees betraying Tracy, harassment against Tracy, how society & local communities are divided, & the power of the prosecution

Chapter 7) 56:25-1:13:54 Justin & Wayne working together & with the legal team for animal rights activists, & Justin’s advice to new lawyers & activists

Chapter 8) 1:13:55-1:27:14 How to make the legal system more accessible, the need for authenticity in personal & public interactions, Wayne’s proposed changes to the court, & lawyers empowering their activist clients

Chapter 9) 1:27:15-1:37:45 What Justin learned from the Asha Rescue Trial, Wayne’s arguments in court, getting to know local lawyers, final thoughts, & check out the website Animal Activist Legal Defense Project (link above)

Chapter 10) 1:37:46-1:38:02 Outro video - Thank you for watching! Please Subscribe. Acknowledgments to the Podcast Team: Joe Allman, Adam Durand, & Chloe Leffakis

Follow Justin:

https://x.com/justin_marceau

https://www.facebook.com/justin.marceau.9

https://www.linkedin.com/in/marceau-justin-97b33015/

Support Asha's Farm Sanctuary & Tracy:

https://www.ashasfarmsanctuary.org

https://www.facebook.com/@ashasfarmsanctuary

https://www.instagram.com/ashasfarmsanctuary

https://twitter.com/AshasSanctuary

https://www.tiktok.com/@ashas_farm_sanctuary?lang=en

https://www.facebook.com/tracy.murphy.3572

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tracy-murphy-4b40b410/

Books/Essays:

Beyond Cages: Animal Law & Criminal Punishment by Justin Marceau

Carceral Logics: Human Incarceration & Animal Captivity by (Editors) Lori Gruen & Justin Marceau

Truth & Transparency: Undercover Investigations in the Twenty-First Century by Alan K. Chen & Justin Marceau

Cases & Materials on the Death Penalty by Nina Rivkind, Steven Shatz, Sam Kamin, & Justin Marceau

“Federal Habeas Corpus: Cases & Materials” by Andrea Lyon, Emily Hughes, Mary Prosser, & Justin Marceau

Death Penalty in a Nutshell by Victor Streib, Sam Kamin, & Justin Marceau

Voluntary Prosecution & the Case of Animal Rescue by Justin Marceau, Wayne Hsiung, & Steffen Seitz (Harvard Law Review)

https://harvardlawreview.org/forum/vol-137/voluntary-prosecution-and-the-case-of-animal-rescue/

Books mentioned:

The Art of Choosing by Sheena Iyengar

The Paradox of Choice: Why More Is Less by Barry Schwartz

Movies mentioned:

The Joker (2019)

  continue reading

106 episodes

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