JEDI vs. DEI: Why Justice Must Come First with Chris Talbot-Heindl

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How can we create a more equitable and just nonprofit sector?

In this episode of The Small Nonprofit, we chat with Chris Talbot-Heindl, a seasoned professional with over two decades of experience in the nonprofit world. Chris shares their personal experiences and insights on the challenges and opportunities facing nonprofits today, particularly in the areas of diversity, equity, inclusion, and justice (JEDI).

We explore the challenges faced by BIPOC individuals in predominantly white-led organizations and the importance of moving beyond performative allyship to achieve real, transformative change.

Chris provides actionable advice for fostering a more inclusive and equitable nonprofit sector. They emphasize the significance of community-based learning, emotional regulation, and collective responsibility in dismantling systemic inequities.

Chris's personal experiences and insights offer valuable lessons for nonprofit leaders, staff, and board members alike, reminding us that the path to collective liberation requires ongoing commitment, education, and a willingness to challenge the status quo.

Key Highlights:

• The Importance of Community: Chris highlights the need for community-based learning and support in JEDI work. They provide actionable tips to the audience such as to form groups, share knowledge, and practice calling in and being called in to foster a safer and more accountable environment.
• The Power of Emotional Regulation: Chris emphasizes the importance of emotional regulation in navigating difficult conversations and conflicts. They stress that everyone has a responsibility to manage their emotions and avoid reacting with violence or harm.
• The Need for Transformational Change: Chris argues that incremental change is not enough to address the systemic inequities in the nonprofit sector. They call for transformational change that prioritizes JEDI principles and collective liberation.
• The Role of Cultural Competency: Chris discusses the importance of cultural competency in DEI work and shares an example of a shocking lack of cultural awareness in a previous workplace. They emphasize the need for DEI specialists to have a deep understanding of the communities they serve.

Watch this episode on Youtube: https://youtu.be/Kb4NSqOS1w0

Links and Resources:

• Connect with Chris Talbot-Heindl on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christalbotheindl/
• Check out the website: https://www.talbot-heindl.com/
• Link to Chris's Tapas where my educomics live: https://tapas.io/episode/3152530
• Twitter: https://x.com/talbot_heindl
• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/talbot_heindl/
• Learn more about JEDI Committee: https://jedicollaborative.com/
• Connect with Maria on LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mariario/
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