Episode 81 - Loop

The Two Vague Podcast

Norah joins Ben this week for a discussion about recursion, and speaking of… Happy Second Anniversary to us! Norah has just seen another loud musical, and Ben is champing at the bit to talk about the game he’s been playing lately. They start their circuitous loop with some Canadian music industry trivia, a correction for the dystopia episode, the definition, and unintentionally making fun of the Scottish. More loop centric topics include… making jewelry, an area of downtown Chicago, digital music, computer programming languages, rollercoasters, mathematics, Norah’s Summer job in college, and “time loop” movies. On the topic of video games, Ben explains the importance of engaging gameplay loops, his stance on game reviews, and his experiences with the game Deathloop by Arkane Studios.

00:00:21 - Ben’s recursion joke fail, and Norah sees the “updated” musical Tommy
00:02:42 - Other musicals… American Idiot and Jagged Little Pill, and “also known as music”
00:04:27 - Interesting Canadian music idiosyncrasies, and a dystopia episode correction
00:07:02 - 2nd Anniversary, weird duck callback, and a heartfelt THANK YOU to listeners!
00:09:30 - The definition according to Web and Ox, and Ben adds back some superfluous stuff
00:12:17 - “So I Married an Axe Murderer,” vegetarian haggis, loopholes, jewelry, and the loupe
00:15:05 - Jump rings, perspectives of helixes, the Chicago Loop, and US state opinions
00:18:57 - Ben is mistaken, what is in “the Loop,” the Chicago fireworks, and M3Ps?
00:21:17 - Audio formats, songs on a loop, “My Weekly Mixtape” shoutout, and recursion
00:23:30 - Norah is above BASIC, FORTRAN 77, and other loops in computer programming
00:25:08 - Marry the FORTRAN teacher, middle school is NOT grade school, and classrooms
00:27:45 - Mental math, Adderall, first looping rollercoaster “Flip Flap Railway,” and clothoids
00:32:26 - “Shuttle Loop” rollercoasters, strange loops, the Möbius strip, and Socrates
00:35:10 - A child’s perspective on math, the Museum of Science and Industry, and the U-505
00:37:07 - Submarines are cramped, the coal mine, model trains, and going in to video games
00:39:30 - Ben explains gameplay loops, a rare dad joke from Norah, and Donut County
00:43:25 - Match 3 game loops, Norah understands, and Ben mentions Deathloop
00:45:19 - A discussion about movies, television, and books using the “time loop” concept
00:48:07 - Celebrating “Groundhog’s Day,” and “The Seven Deaths of Evelyn Hardcastle”
00:49:34 - Ben undersells the movie Looper, and other “living the same day” movies
00:51:35 - The premise (relatively spoiler free) and game mechanics of the game “Deathloop”
00:54:03 - Discrepancies in user and news outlet reviews, and the start of Ben’s critique
00:57:33 - “Redfall,” how skill trees work, a disclaimer, and the importance of intelligent AI
01:01:00 - Seven, Norah comes clean on playtime, some balancing is needed, and a bug
01:03:17 - Ben nitpicking about reviews, know your reviewer, and closing the show!

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