E67: A Deep Dive on René Girard with David Gornoski

"Upstream" with Erik Torenberg

This week on Upstream, we're releasing a 2019 interview with David Gornoski and Erik Torenberg on the Village Global podcast, offering a deep dive into René Girard's Mimetic Theory, exploring its far-reaching societal impacts and surprising connections to ancient rituals and myths. They unpack the concept of mimetic desire and the profound influence of Christianity on society, exploring how the anthropological impact of Jesus could transform personal and socio-political conflicts. David also provides a unique perspective on the evolution of ancient sacrifices and mythologies, juxtaposing them with modern societal issues.

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TIMESTAMPS:

(00:00) Intro

(00:51) René Girard and His Impact

(03:44) The Political Implications of Girard's Ideas

(06:39) Understanding Mimetic Desire

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(16:32) Scapegoating in Society

(25:43) SPONSOR: Squad

(27:06) Modern Examples of Scapegoating

(43:01) The Inhumane System and Hidden Scapegoats

(44:26) The Power of Mercy-Driven Solutions

(45:57) Mimetic Rivalry and Political Power

(49:29) Challenging Groupthink in Science and Healthcare

(53:08) The Role of Jesus in Social Justice and Politics

(56:04) The Consequences of Sacrificial Politics

(01:08:39) Anthropology, Religion, and Future Technologies

(01:13:12) Wrap