WMP #138: The Melodic Odyssey of Dak Dubois

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EPISODE 138

Embark on a rhythmic journey with Milwaukee's own Dak Dubois on this latest episode of the Wisconsin Music Podcast, hosted by Zach Felt. Known for his eclectic mix of indie pop, 70s funk, soul, and snippets of 60s and 70s psychedelia, Dubois has been creating exciting ripples in the music scene.

In this illuminating podcast episode, delve deep into the musical world of Dubois as he shares the stories behind his acclaimed self-titled album and dynamic performances with 'Doc Dubois and Company'. Gain insights into his creative process, musical roots, on-stage energy and the magic that unfolds with each performance.

Uncover the man behind popular anthems like 'Seaside' and 'Portland'. From harmonious soundscapes to Dak's shift to focusing full time on music, explore everything from his multicultural musical influences to the pivotal role of books in shaping his career. This episode promises a melodious adventure through the upbeat world of Dak Dubois that you simply can't afford to skip.

Landscape through the retro-modern universe of tunes Dak Dubois crafts, colored with classic rock and roll inspirations from The Beatles and Led Zeppelin and a psychedelic zest inspired by The Grateful Dead. Gain a unique perspective on Dak's journey, gigging experiences, industry transformations over the years and inspiring words for emerging artists.

Immerse yourself in the enlightening world of Dak Dubois, an inspiring figure in music balancing life's nuances while striking an engaging note with listeners. Join this melodious sporting adventure with Dak by tuning in to the Wisconsin Music Podcast and following him @DakDubois on Instagram for the latest updates on his musical journey.

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Music.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of the Wisconsin Music Podcast.

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I'm your host, Zach Felt, and today we have a special treat for you,

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for all you music enthusiasts out there.

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And before I continue, hopefully I will say your name correctly. Is it Dak Dubois?

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Dak Dubois. Dak Dubois. Okay. Dubois, yeah.

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Just like Marge Simpson's last name. Sure, yeah. Okay.

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Our guest on the show today is none other than Dak Dubois, The Milwaukee-based

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artist who's been making waves with his unique blend of modern indie pop,

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70s funk and soul, and a touch of 60s and 70s psychedella.

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His self-titled album, a testament to his multifaceted talents,

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was entirely crafted in the comfort

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of his own apartment-turned-studio and was released in April of 23.

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What makes Doc truly exceptional is his live performances. He's not alone on stage.

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He's joined by a rotating cast of talented local musicians, collectively known

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as Doc Dubois and Company.

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Their shows are a fusion of funk-driven, jammy vibes and captivating crowd engagement,

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promising an unforgettable experience.

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One of his standout singles, Portland, even premiered on Radio Milwaukee,

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and his album has been lauded as an imaginative, colorful exercise by Milwaukee breaking and entering.

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If you're eager to dive into his world of music, you'll be delighted to know

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that his latest album is available on all major streaming platforms.

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So stay tuned as we dive into a conversation exploring the intricate stories

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behind his music, the vibrant energy he brings to the stage.

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This is an episode you won't want to miss, so let's jump right in and discover

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the magic of Doc Dubois. So welcome to the Wisconsin Music Podcast.

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Cool. Thanks for having me, man. Cool. Cool. So let's get the listeners a little

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bit more in depth about your music origin story.

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How did you get started in the music and how did you land where you are today?

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Yeah, for sure. So, I mean, I started learning guitar when I was like 11 years old.

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I really enjoyed the sound of like the 60s and the 70s and a lot of different

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like kind of alternative and indie sounds too.

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29 years old. So at the time, like early Arctic Monkeys, Strokes,

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Flaming Lips, stuff like that. A lot of that really got me into music.

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I started learning guitar at like 11, played a lot, you know,

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throughout my teenage years.

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I had a stepdad who was a drummer and he would bring me out to

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all of these open jams and so i started

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playing with a bunch of like blues guys and stuff once i

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was about 16 and interesting to start playing in

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bars at that age too but yeah you know over

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the years i just kind of crafted more and more of

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myself as a musician and figured out how

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to sing better and play all the other instruments too

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and but yeah still guitar is kind of like my main love

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but yeah i love getting to do everything thing and kind of write it all out

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so wonderful wonderful so you said and other instruments so what other instruments

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do you play besides guitar yeah so i play i play drums i play keys i play bass

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pretty much anything that has strings on it i feel like i can kind of get down pretty quickly.

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So like mandolin ukulele kind of

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stuff like that a little banjo but yeah yeah

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pretty much anything thing with strings i'll try ripping so cool

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very cool have you ever tried like the non-fretted instruments

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like violin cello and in the such no no

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i don't think i came from that uh that level of prestige as

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a child so no i haven't tried but i

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understand they're just tuned differently they're tuned in fourths instead

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of fifths so right right i feel like that'd be pretty easy

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i play slide guitar so kind of used to not using frets

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with that so cool cool very cool and have

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you implemented let it slide into any of your songs i actually

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haven't no i've done it a couple of

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times with live i know last night we had a show at

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oak and at one point i grabbed one

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of my drummer's drumsticks and started playing slide guitar with that so that

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was pretty cool it's just on my sg too and i have an sg that's awesome for playing

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it sucks for slide but it somehow sounded okay last night so i haven't really

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heard anybody using a wooden drumstick for for a slide.

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Must be an interesting setup it was the first time i

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ever tried it so yeah we had a two-hour set we had

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to stretch it out and gotcha you know i looked at the boys i

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was like we're gonna get weird you know so we got weird people

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like it when we get weird so yeah right i was gonna say i bet the

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audience was enjoying it i bet for sure yeah definitely cool

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so how long has this has this group

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been kind of like together i know it's mostly you when you have this rotating

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set set of musicians but as this entity how

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long has this been going on just six months so i launched the album six months

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ago and that was kind of my first time doing this before that i was kind of

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a journeyman like guitarist i would just play guitar in a lot of different bands

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whether you know kind of a lot of across a lot of different genres but i moved

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down to milwaukee from the fox cities back.

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About a year a little over a year ago and started working

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on this album and knew that i kind of of wanted to like squeak out

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in this scene down here and and just try

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something new with it so really glad i did it's been really successful

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so far and people have taken taken it really nicely so

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excellent so kind of one of my questions is talking

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about the local scene so it seems like you're getting a positive reaction from

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the scene which is great what are some other positives that you've been kind

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of noticing about the local scene for you oh man i got so many homies in the

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scene And it's been crazy to just really be in a new place and get to meet all of them.

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Yeah. I've gotten to collaborate with quite a few different artists and I think

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getting to do recording stuff is great too, but I just love how diverse the scene is.

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Honestly, there's so many talented people from so many different like genres

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and sub genres that I think it makes, it makes it such an intricate scene in Milwaukee here.

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And I love getting to see it, man. man. There's just so much talent and people

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are just incredible songwriters and players in general. Yeah.

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It's a lot of great talent out there in the Milwaukee and outing areas,

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all the way throughout Wisconsin. There's just a lot of great musicians out here.

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What are some of the struggles that you've kind of seen in the local scene,

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though, that maybe needs help to help it make it stronger? Yeah.

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I don't know. I guess I haven't really experienced a lot of struggles necessarily. necessarily.

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I feel like selling merch is kind of hard, but I feel like that's kind of,

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everybody has that right situation.

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I also know that we're like in an interesting financial situation as far as

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like the world's concerned right now.

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So I'm not going to be like luring that over anybody's head. No.

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Yeah. I don't know. I feel like everybody's really cool and it doesn't feel

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grossly competitive or anything like that. Like.

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wish that the hip-hop and r b scene had a little

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bit more support from some of the some of the faces that

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i kind of see in the circles that i play in and stuff yeah because i love getting

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to play across you know different scenes and work with other people and i mean

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they definitely have a lot of support but i feel like it's there's just so much

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untapped talent there that i wish that we could almost support those people

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a little bit better but but that's honestly my only gripe.

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I mean, we're supposed to be a melting pot of everything, right?

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Yeah, totally, man. Right, exactly.

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Now, talking a little bit about this new album that came out in April,

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we're at the end of October with this recording of this interview,

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so it's been, like you said, about six months.

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So why don't we talk to the listeners

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through the journey of creating this project. How did you get started?

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How did you put the things together, like your recording equipment and things of that nature?

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Year how did it go being in an apartment is the drums

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you said you're a drummer so are these live drums or are

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these program drums can i talk about all the details of this album yeah definitely

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man yeah so in i have a studio in our apartment here and yeah i just sound dampened

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a ton of it you know just added a ton of foam and stuff but i live track i live

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tracked all the drumming usually i'll I'll do like an eight mic setup on the kit.

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I'll do like a mono overhead. I'll individually mic up the hi-hat and like the ride cymbal.

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So pretty much just the crash is coming through on the overhead as well as like

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the overall blend of all the drums.

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I just single mic the kick, double mic the snare, one on top, one on bottom.

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Tom's individually. And that's kind of like the general thing.

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I think having your mic placement's the best way to go because you don't want

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things to be out of phase or to like not come through sounding right. Right, right.

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So that kind of took me a little while to figure that out because this is like

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my first time really like recording to this capacity. So.

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I just had to keep messing stuff up. Even on that album, when I listened to

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it, I'm like, yeah, definitely, I've been doing things differently since I recorded that album.

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But yeah, I feel like I started recording it because I had played in a lot of

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other bands, and I was like, I think I could do this all by myself,

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and I wanted to take that on as a little bit of an experience thing,

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and I'm really glad I did because it really taught me.

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I think it made me a lot better of a guitarist in general, getting to really

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look at every single instrument and what it does to add to like the general sound of something.

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And I think that, you know, the end result is always what's the most important thing. Right.

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That being said, we live above like a venue too.

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So yeah, I got to really learn a lot about noise gates.

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And I also learned a lot about retracking. So yeah.

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And then there's a church across the street that's very old

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and it just it rings bells like hell man yeah

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crazy yeah so did you sample

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any of that and put it in your songs i actually didn't know

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i had a friend that i was playing and i had him as a rhythm

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guitarist for like a few shows and every time he'd come over to like jam and

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stuff he'd always be like oh dude the bell's going off i gotta go record this

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and he'd like run outside and record it and he actually used it in one of his

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songs and i thought that that was really interesting so very cool yeah he was

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more nerdy about it than i was i was just i I always see it as a nuisance.

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I'm like, I don't need that bell, you know? So the only bell I want is off of a ride.

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Yeah, I hear you. I hear you. Now, you said you live above a venue.

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Do you have other neighbors or is it just the venue below you and you're sitting up on top of it?

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Yeah, it's just the venue below us. We're on top. And I have a lot of sound equipment here.

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So when it comes nights to jamming, I usually try

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to do two jams a month where I bring

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in different artists and just like you know just mess around like see

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whatever happens which has been really great too to

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like get to meet a lot of different people in the scene and just like having that

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space and you know having people in for

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that is just honestly like the coolest thing to do yeah but

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uh yeah a lot of times we're pretty loud and they're

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pretty loud and our our bedroom and

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our living room are like on top of it so

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we have a third floor and that's where that is so it's pretty you got

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like a whole barrier it's never too bad sometimes you'll have

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some djs come through with like and bring like you know

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more subs or whatever right and you could feel it in like the whole house it's

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crazy but yeah it's it's like getting your back massaged when you're sleeping

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so it's not bad man it's not bad cool very cool so you're doing this recording

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by yourself so what kind of.

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For the people out there that are interested in, like, the recording aspect

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of it, like, what are you using for, like, your DAW and your interfaces and stuff like that?

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Is it all in one, or is it, like, outboard stuff? What kind of,

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what are you doing with that stuff?

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Yeah, so I have, I just have, like, a big Scarlett, like, the Focusrite, the 18-input one.

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Okay. Just, like, the massive box. and so I

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use that for pretty much all my drumming and then I do have like

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how to look a universal audio just like a volt I just use that on the separate

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side of the space so I don't have to like unplug anything and I'll just if I'm

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doing like quick vocal touch-ups or if I'm just like single micing something

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I'll use that because that's like where I have my desk and stuff and then.

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and I haven't really got no ton of chances to to

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mess with that yet but eventually what i'm

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going to do is i think like pre-mastering once i

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have my mixes i'll run it through there kind of catch

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some some of the you know tube warmth that you get off

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of it and stuff because it's just a four track it's not

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anything crazy but it's enough to run your stereo mixes

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through and kind of add that bit extra or

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even just do it on an instrumental basis like if i have a

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guitar and i want it to get really trippy put it through there

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and then just kind of like casually grab the tape as it

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comes through to kind of like wobble and slow it a little bit right yeah

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i've been really busy and i have i

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recorded right now and i plan on releasing an

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ep at the end of december oh okay cool

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which is gonna be cool and that one's gonna be a bit different because i'm gonna

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try to so the first album was all just me by myself on everything but i'm trying

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to get a bunch of different features from the city of milwaukee on that ep which

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is gonna be cool because like my friend wave chapelle is gonna be on it i have

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and then i'd love to get like another rapper on it or like

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r&b singer or something and i got a few friends that i've definitely

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had in mind but yeah just kind of feel it out you know yeah definitely so let's

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kind of go back to the one that you just released in april and kind of talk

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about some of the songs on there are there some songs that you'd like the listeners.

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or other streaming sites? Yeah, for sure, man.

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It's, it's kind of a, it's, it's like a concept album too. So the whole thing

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like front to back kind of tells a story and it really goes through the motions.

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So to like name out one specific song I think would be a little, a little crazy.

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I know the most popular songs off that album are like Seaside and Portland.

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So i feel like that's kind of like a good little surface level place to

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back it's only eight songs and it's like 36 minutes or

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something like that so it's pretty easy to get through it's really digestible

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the music on it is i wanted to make sure that it would be something that has

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a lot of moments where like the ear candy kind of hits you you know and you

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got good hooks good overall feel i feel like in my playing i i kind In my writing,

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so it really gives you that classic alternative indie sound.

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cultures as far as music's concerned, whether it be more of an Eastern sound

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or adding more of a Latin feel on something.

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And then all of the rhythm section stuff is super funky, so it's really easy

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to get into. Yeah, so you call this basically a journey album.

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So what is the journey that this album is supposed to take the listener through?

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Oh man, I think I just wanted it to resonate with any kind of like feeling of coming of age,

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you know, and really just kind of when everything kind of starts clicking as

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you know, we're adults and our brains kind of start forming a little bit more.

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I wanted to kind of go over that and the things that we grieve with,

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but also the things that we can be excited about too.

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And that's kind of the place that I was in when I wrote and recorded all of it.

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And yeah and i feel like it definitely can

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be or you could just put it on when you got some homies over and you're

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hanging out you know and it's it's just easy listening so excellent excellent

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so i'll put a few of those on there is there

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any ones that you really want me to put on the podcast or should i just

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randomly pick a few yeah i feel

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like seaside portland those two are pretty cool okay

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definitely usually i feel like those kind of get a lot of

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play soul mill is really cool too it's an instrumental it's

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the opener for the album too but it yeah that

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one's just really interesting it's got a lot of like phrygian scale usage but

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it's pretty light and it really sticks to kind of more like funky kind of minor

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like pentatonic box kind of feel stuff too from like a bass perspective right

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it's really nice and easy going.

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Yeah phrygian's kind of known as like the happy major sound

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because it's got that raised fourth in it so it's it's

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a very cool scale can be used over a lot of

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different things and a lot of great songs in the over the

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years have over the decades have been using that that that mode

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a lot so very cool yeah yeah it's cool it's definitely one

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of my favorites especially with like being a

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little bit more of a psychedelic artist too you know it really gives it that like

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kind of gypsy spanishy middle eastern

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feel to it too so what would be like some

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influences of yours that would be in

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that kind of genre that other that the listeners

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would be kind of understanding where that's coming from

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yeah i feel like from a modern perspective i'd say like krungbin i would say

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like peach pit the band crumb and then i have a lot of like kind of old school

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funky feels in it too so i think like funkadelic even like a little herbie hancock

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like like Headhunters album, you know? Right, right, right.

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And I would say like a little bit of Jimi Hendrix. It definitely,

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it's some of the tonalities are like throwback feel stuff for sure.

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But it's like hard to beat the 60s and 70s out of you when it's like so imprinted

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in your brain, you know? Right, right, right.

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So if I remember right, you said you're like in your mid 20s now and you started when you were 11.

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So that was like early 2000-ish, I would think.

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Is that, am I thinking that right? Yeah, for sure. I started playing in 2006.

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I'm 29. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah. So 2006.

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So when you were 11, what would be like some of the music that was influenced

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you at that young of an age?

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Oh, man, it was just Jimi Hendrix and the Beatles and Led Zeppelin and...

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Black sabbath you know kind of all of that stuff in

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general that was i remember hearing that music and

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just being like this is insane and then eventually once i

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got an acoustic and i was like 13 14

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i really became obsessed with nirvana i feel like everybody has to go through

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a nirvana phase and that was my nirvana phase and i i loved learning all their

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music because it was simple enough for me to play it and say with it yeah that

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that kind of where it was where it was at And then eventually as I got older,

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my taste kind of expanded out from there.

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And I really started listening to a lot of like jazz and funk and fusion and

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stuff like that. And a lot of different, like there's still all these elements

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of like psychedelia, but it wasn't as like prominent in it. Gotcha.

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Yeah, definitely all that stuff.

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And then a lot of like West Coast indie stuff I really started getting down

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on probably about 10 years ago.

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And I feel like I really haven't ever lost that. So wonderful. Wonderful.

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It's great to hear about musicians that start somewhere and they expand out

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and just try to search out everything that they can that really helps them become

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a better musician. For sure. Yeah. Yeah.

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As I'm getting closer to the end here with these questions, one of them is a work-life balance.

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So we haven't really talked much about what else you do. Are you doing music full-time?

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Do you have a side job or a day job that kind of conflicts with you making making

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music? How does that work for you?

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Yeah, I actually just left my full-time job a couple of weeks ago to really

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launch into this music thing full-time.

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And yeah, it was really hard to record and just play a lot of gigs too.

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I think over the summer, I probably

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played maybe like 30 some gigs with a full-time job and that was a ton.

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So yeah, I'm definitely kind of glad I'm making this decision right now.

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I'm not broke yet, so I feel like I'm still glad.

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But once that hits, I think then I'll be a little bit scared.

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But I just wanted to take a couple of months and really dive into it,

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work on content and kind of just see what I can do as far as getting the word

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out there on what I'm doing and stuff.

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And yeah, so the balance is really hard for

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sure i think having full-time job

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too and you know the demands that come with

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a full-time job it's really hard to balance those things out so but yeah definitely

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eventually it caught up to me so but yeah definitely just trying to look at

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music full-time and see what i can make of it you know and right exactly not

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30 yet so i feel like this is a good decision i still have six months until I'm 30.

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So this is kind of my mess around era right now. So, right.

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Now, in the past, I've interviewed Emily White. I don't know if you know who

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that is. Yeah, she's amazing.

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Yeah. So, and she's got that great resource, the how to build a sustainable

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music career, collect all revenue streams.

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Have you, have you dived into any of that and tried to? Absolutely.

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Yeah. Yeah. My, my girlfriend was the one that my girlfriend,

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Nora turned me onto that book.

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And my girlfriend, Nora is a much better reader than I am.

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So that's pretty tight because she made all of these notes on how to do all

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these different things. And

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that was, it really came in handy when it was time to launch this project.

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So shout out to Emily white, man. I mean, she's got in. Yeah.

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She knows what she's doing, man. And you can read through it a million times,

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that book and listen to her podcast.

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And it's just the amount of knowledge that you can absorb. It's just crazy.

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And yeah, big props to her, man. She seems like an awesome person too.

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And I know a lot of people that I know in the scene of nothing but amazing things

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to say about her. So yeah.

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Yeah. It's, it's, it's great to have. And then she's from Wisconsin as well. So it's just great.

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All these great Wisconsinites are doing all these great things for the local scene and beyond.

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So awesome. Very awesome. Hell yeah.

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The next thing is a gig that you have performed at or seen that has made a big impression on you.

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Oh, man. As far as gigs I've seen, I feel like every gig I go to, I'm just always in awe.

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Especially bigger names, but even locally, man, it's cool to see people on their grind.

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I think my favorite artist to see in the Milwaukee area is Classic.

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He's a really good friend of mine, too, so I'm not just being biased.

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But I wholeheartedly think he's the most talented guy I've ever gotten to see do anything.

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So he's amazing. If you haven't seen him live or had a chance to talk to him

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or anything, let me know.

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I'd love to link you guys up because he's the reason why he's won like every

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award in the city of Milwaukee.

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As far as music goes, he's just amazing.

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And he's easily one of the most kindhearted and just awesome people to,

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you know, like having your circle too.

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So very cool. yeah definitely and then as far as shows i've played that have

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made a lot a big impression.

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Yeah, I'm not really sure. I mean, I've really enjoyed every show that we've

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played as a full band and that I've done as like a loop artist too.

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But yeah, I don't know. I mean, we just played at Oak Brewing last night.

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It's our second time playing there.

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That's an amazing venue. I love seeing what they've done with their stage setup

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and like their sound dampening as well as like the lights.

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They've really put a lot into that place. And I feel like, yeah,

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it's probably one of the best stages to play around.

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So and where's that? That's in Milwaukee, right? It's in West Allis.

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Oh, West Allis. Okay. Yeah. Just 20 minutes away.

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Yeah, there you go. Everything's 20 minutes away from Milwaukee, right? Yeah, totally.

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And if you had a time machine, you could go back and talk to your younger self,

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any advice you'd give yourself.

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Yeah, man. I would just tell myself to keep messing up because the more you

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mess up, the better of a musician you become.

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And yeah, you just got to mess up, man. You just got to keep messing up and

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don't take it personally, just get it over with.

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And as you continue to work on all of these things, like you eventually just get a lot better.

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So just keep messing up and, you know, keep your chin up through it.

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Absolutely. Yeah, that's great advice because, you know, I tell my students,

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I'm a band director at the high school and I tell them failure is just stepping stones to success.

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Eventually it's going to click and eventually you're going to become better

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at what you're working at.

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Yeah, totally. No, I couldn't agree with that more. I think even if you're self-taught

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or if you're taught at a higher level, you got to get your 10,000 hours in there

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before you can really just start crushing stuff.

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And yeah, you just got to keep messing up, man, because that's what makes all the difference.

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Exactly. Exactly. Is there anything that you want the listeners to know before I let you go?

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Follow me on Instagram at Dak Dubois. It's just D-A-K-D-U-B-O-I-S.

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So yeah that's pretty much it i know yeah i plan on doing a tour here in a few months probably.

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Yeah and wherever whatever city you're at you know check out

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the music and check out instagram because i'm really good at making sure that

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i stay up on content you can kind of get a little bit more feel for what the

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live shows are like and they're definitely crazy i just want to make sure everybody

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has an incredible night anytime they come out and see us so yeah excellent and

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And I'll put all the links down.

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I'll put your link tree down in the details of the show so people can just click

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on that and go right to all your social media and your website.

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So, Doc, thank you so much for being on the Wisconsin Music Podcast.

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It's been great talking to you, learning about all your music stuff.

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And just thanks so much for being on.

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Yeah, thanks for having me, man. I really appreciate it, too.

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Well, thanks again for tuning in to another episode of the Wisconsin Music Podcast.

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Once again, I'm Zach Fell, your host and creator of the Wisconsin Music Podcast,

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