Each week on the Dauntless Grace Exchange podcast, Deedra Mager and Megan Hall continue their journey towards becoming wholly integrated. As they grow and learn, they bring tools like the Enneagram and Internal Family Systems therapy model to encourage you in your mental and emotional health. Ultimately, it’s all about connection: connecting to others, connecting to God, and connecting back to yourself.
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181: Taylor Cassidy, a Black Gen Z Influencer (Diverse Perspectives)
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180: Courtney Woods, on Divorce (Diverse Perspectives)
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179: Kari Morris-Guzman, a Disabled Woman (Diverse Perspectives)
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178: Shayla Sandberg, a Biracial Adoptee (Diverse Perspectives)
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177: Dani Wilson, a Transmasculine Bisexual (Diverse Perspectives)
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176: Joani Akers & Aseel Thamer, on Refugees in America (Diverse Perspectives)
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175: Kristen Marble, a female pastor (Diverse Perspectives)
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174: Dr. Larissa Malone, an Afro-Latina (Diverse Perspectives)
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173: Vanilda Reyes de Noyes, a first-generation American (Diverse Perspectives)
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172: Bethany Abbott on Singleness (Diverse Perspectives)
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171: Introducing our Summer Podcast Series!
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This summer, The Dauntless Grace Exchange is going to feature stories from people that you may not always encounter. The goal of sharing stories from those outside of the majority is to gain perspective, grow more curious, and stir compassion for people different from us. We hope you stick around all summer to listen!…
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Deedra and Megan check in with their own parts and get vulnerable about the tension they each feel. Why do our parts war with each other? Can we hold the both/and within ourselves? How can we take care of the parts of us that feel weary or angry? (Also, Megan shares why she's still writing about Taylor Swift on social media, and why she's not stopp…
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It's time for part 2! Deedra and Megan jump back into the defense mechanisms of each enneagram type, but this time they correlate them to the protectors and exiles that might be clustered around that defense mechanism. If you missed part 1, you can find that on Episode 168. They also referenced the podcast with Enneagram 8 Hilary Mize: Episode 36.…
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Deedra and Megan jump back into the defense mechanisms of each enneagram type, but this time they correlate them to the protectors and exiles that might be clustered around that defense mechanism. And, because they are who they are, they couldn't help but get vulnerable about their own protectors and some things they've experienced since learning a…
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167: IFS and Other Therapy Models with Tammy Sollenberger
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IFS therapist, author, and podcast host of The One Inside is back! Tammy Sollenberger, dear friend of the podcast, has joined us to discuss therapy models she has used in her practice, such as CBT and DBT, and what changed when she learned about Internal Family Systems (IFS). Plus, for our Patreon subscribers, Tammy goes vulnerable and raw in a fol…
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166: Concept Therapy with Malissa Melton-Otunba
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Therapist Malissa Melton-Otunba is back for a part two! In this episode, she briefs Megan on what Concept Therapy is and they discuss how it relates to Internal Family Systems and other therapy models. For more information on Malissa, listen to episode 165! Links: Concept Therapy Malissa's most recent article…
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165: Even Therapists Need Therapy with Malissa Melton-Otunba
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Therapist Malissa Melton-Otunba joins the podcast this week to discuss why even therapists need to be able to do their own inner work! For Malissa, the enneagram was a life-changing tool that helped her understand herself, especially as a mom and woman. Malissa is a midwest girl at heart transplanted in Dallas/Fort Worth for the past 20 years. She …
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164: I Shouldn't Feel This Way with Dr. Alison Cook
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Dr. Alison Cook returns to the podcast for the third time! In it, she discusses her newest book, I Shouldn't Feel This Way, available for pre-order now! Alison walks us through the three practices for untangling emotions: naming, framing, and braving. Plus, watch the bonus interview where she answers the question, "What's been left unsaid?" and tru…
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163: Healing After the Cult with Anna LeBaron
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Author and Hulu documentary subject Anna LeBaron joins Deedra and Megan to share about her life post-cult. Anna's escape at 13 led her on a lifelong healing journey from the trauma she endured, and she opens up about the hardships and blessings of walking it. Also, don't miss the bonus interview in the DG Community where she answers the question, "…
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Author and therapist Aundi Kolber joins Deedra and Megan today for a beautiful and compassionate conversation about healing from trauma. Aundi's new book, Strong Like Water Guided Journey, is available for pre-order and releases March 26! You can connect further with Aundi on Instagram, and don't forget that our DG Community members can see a bonus…
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161: Vulnerability in Leadership with Jo Saxton
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Enneagram Eight Jo Saxton joins the conversation to discuss the importance of vulnerability in leadership. Listen as she drops some amazing wisdom about what it looks like to lead from wholeness and integrity. Plus, for our Patreon subscribers, don't miss the bonus interview where Jo answers the question, "What's been left unsaid?" Jo Saxton is a s…
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160: Launching the Dauntless Grace Community!
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Straight from Dallas, Texas, Deedra and Megan drop their exciting news: Dauntless Grace has a new community for you to join! Head to the Community tab on the website (dauntlessgrace.org) or go straight to the Patreon page to join now!
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Deedra and Megan finish up the conversation from last week on the focus of attention for types Five through Nine, along with some extra stories about Fours (per usual) and how the focuses relate to the passions of the enneagram types.
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Megan and Deedra decide to take it back to some enneagram basics: the focus of attention for each type. If you're new to the enneagram or still trying to determine which number you are, understanding the focus of attention will go a long way in identifying or confirming yours!
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Yes, we are two days late to drop a Galentine's Day episode. BUT, I think you'll find the episode is worth it. We spend a lot of time laughing, answering enneagram questions for each other, and we even dive into some enneagram and relationship dynamics you don't want to miss!
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156: The Defense Mechanisms of Each Enneagram Type
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For the first time (somehow), Megan and Deedra go through the defense mechanisms for all nine enneagram types. What are they? What does it mean? How do those relate to Internal Family Systems protectors? How do they self-sabotage? And most importantly, now that we know, where do we go from here? Plus: the Truity blog we used to discuss these.…
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It's episode 155 (not 154, as Megan mistakenly said), and we thought it was time to give you guys the rundown of where we've been and where we're going. Dauntless Grace has always been focused on connecting you to a meaningful story, and in this episode, we break down what that means. It's all about connecting to yourself, connecting to others, and…
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154: Recognizing our parts (& how Megan's post went viral)
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This week, Megan's Facebook post about Taylor Swift went viral, and it brought out a lot of parts in others and in herself. Deedra and Megan use that to discuss: Noticing what parts of ourselves are present Getting distance to let our Self drive the bus Using our words with integrity and kindness How social media can be a connector or a divider…
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Megan and Deedra combine their two heroes, Taylor Swift and Dr. Brené Brown, into one epic conversation about hope, overwhelm, vulnerability, and connection.
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Besties of the podcast, Meg and Kami, join today's episode to talk about their own words of the year: what they chose for 2023 and how it manifested, and what they're focusing on moving into 2024. Plus, it's always lots of laughs when these four are together!
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The annual words of the year episode is back! Deedra and Megan discuss how their 2023 words finished, and they share their new words for 2024. What is your word for 2024? Share it with us!
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The both/and we experienced in 2021 stays true today: the world is full of joy and sorrow. The Christmas season especially magnifies it all: it's a season of awe, wonder, hope, and expectations, but it also holds the tension of exposing sadness, grief, longing, and loneliness. Whatever your circumstances are this season, there is an Emmanuel, God w…
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149: Divine Appointments (and a special travel recap!)
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After a whirlwind tour of Washington DC, New York City, and Boston, Megan and Deedra are back to share how God brings the right people along our paths. Whether it's meeting new friends in person for the first time or ministering to strangers in restaurants, we are wired for connection with others. Plus, they share exciting news about a former speci…
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Whether you have your head down to get everything done in December, or whether your head is buried under the covers until December is over, Jesus is waiting to encounter you. Megan and Deedra each share a recent personal story of how Jesus encountered them in a way that brought a new perspective and more healing. PLUS, you don't want to miss the pi…
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Tomorrow is Thanksgiving, so Deedra and Megan share how they've been giving thanks in 2023. Gratitude isn't about ignoring the painful parts of life; it's about finding beauty even in the midst of the mundane or sorrowful parts. Each of them shares about their personal eucharisteo list and how it's helped them find joy in new places.…
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As we enter into the holiday season, gathering (with family, friends, colleagues, or crowds) is expected. But what if we could turn gatherings into spaces of intention and connection? Deedra and Megan share some insights they recently heard from Priya Parker, author of The Art of Gathering, and they explain how they've been cultivating these in the…
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Megan and Deedra reminisce about the last three years of The Dauntless Grace Exchange--why it started, what they've learned, and where it's going! They each share some of their favorite episodes and guests, and they had big plans to link all the episodes they discuss in these show notes, but there are just too many! However, you can find all their …
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144: Teens and Emotional Intelligence with Jorie Hall
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Megan's daughter Jorie joins Deedra and Megan to discuss the pandemic's impact on this generation's teens. Jorie, a young teen herself, tells her own journey through the pandemic during middle school, discovering she is an enneagram Nine, and what navigating relationships with emotional intelligence is like in high school. Jorie Hall is a 15-year-o…
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143: Social Emotional Learning by Enneagram Type
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What is social emotional learning, and why is it so important? Deedra and Megan break down why they're so invested in this topic. Then they go through each enneagram number and point out natural strengths and weaknesses of each type in regards to social emotional learning.
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142: The Ballot and the Bible with Kaitlyn Schiess
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Another conversation with one of our favorite guests! Kaitlyn Schiess joined us to discuss her new book, The Ballot and the Bible. We also continue the conversation about moving towards marginalized communities and what we can do as we seek to follow Christ in the tricky culture where we live. Kaitlyn Schiess is an author, speaker, and perpetual th…
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We are so excited to have Jenna Riemersma back with us to discuss her new book, Altogether Us. Jenna doesn't hold back as we talk about everything from polyvagal theory to enneagram to trauma and moving towards marginalized communities. This is one conversation you do NOT want to miss! Jenna Riemersma is a popular author, speaker, and certified Int…
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140: Trauma and Polyvagal Theory with Tracy Busse
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Counselor and doctoral student Tracy Busse joins the podcast to discuss trauma and polyvagal theory; how they relate to IFS parts; Ignatian spirituality practices; and how she discovered her enneagram number. Tracy is a professional counselor, writer, teacher, and spiritual director. For the past twenty years, she has provided therapy to children a…
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139: Post-Traumatic Growth with Nicki Schoonover
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Join the conversation today with our guest, Nicki Schoonover, Licensed Master Social Worker and current Director of Field Education for Herzing University Master of Social Work Program. She reminds us that every behavior is trying to communicate something. She offers some tips on how to practice self care to avoid secondary traumatic stress when we…
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138: Healing after Trauma with Ashley Chesney
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(Content warning: trafficking, abuse, and the commercial sex industry) Trafficking survivor Ashley Chesney joins us on the podcast to discuss healing after trauma. She breaks down a little of her own story and then tells us some truths and misconceptions about trafficking, how we can move towrads those with complex trauma, and how there is always h…
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137: Trauma and Play with Kelsie Olds, The Occuplaytional Therapist
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Kelsie Olds, The Occuplaytional Therapist, joins the podcast today to talk about the importance of play - and not just for children! Kelsie addresses misconceptions and truths around what play actually is. We also talk about how we all learn, how we can overcome trauma, and how we can re-parent ourselves through play. Kelsie is both an occupational…
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136: Theory and Application of Trauma-Informed Care with Amber Runyan
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Graduate student Amber Runyan joins the podcast to discuss what it's like to journey from theory to application of trauma-informed care. In her own words, Amber says: "My name is Amber Runyan. I am 22 years old. I just recently graduated with a bachelors degree in social work from Greenville University this past spring. I am currently an RA and pro…
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Clinical therapist Meghan Reedy joins the podcast today to kick off a new series on trauma. In this episode, Meghan defines trauma, including what the terms "big T Trauma" and "little t trauma" mean for everyone. She also leaves us with some practical ways we can all be a little more trauma-informed in our lives, in relationships, and in working wi…
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Deedra and Megan returned from another Dauntless Grace enneagram retreat, and they recap their favorite things about their retreats, how they got started, and how you can join in on the fun! Also, don't miss their story about staying the night in a literal treehouse in the California redwoods, and why they definitely were not prepared for that adve…
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133: Directors' Cut of Episode 2 (Our Backstory)
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Join Megan and Deedra as they revisit the first full-length episode of The Dauntless Grace Exchange ever! They give you a behind-the-scenes commentary of episode 2 and add in information you didn't get the first time around. Plus, an update three years later!
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132: Enneagram Types Moving Toward Wholeness
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What's the best path toward integration and wholeness for each enneagram type? It's making moves that pull up your repressed center and give you strategic ways to use your connecting lines and widen your focus of attention. Also, Megan shares her biggest lifetime regret in this episode...and Deedra just laughs. Plus, what they really think about Wi…
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