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This is a throwback episode originally recorded in 2017. Our guest this week is Kelly Sun. The media dubbed her the "Queen of Sorts," and her team mates called her a "baccarat machine." You know her as the mysterious Chinese woman behind the Phil Ivey edge sorting cases in London, and Atlantic City. Also on this show is Michael Kaplan, who has written about Kelly for the NY Times, and Cigar Aficionado, and Lori Chang. Lori is a former member of the MIT blackjack team, and friend of Kelly. Kelly sometimes has trouble with English, and Lori came along to help translate, and share a few stories of her own.
We welcome your questions - send them to us at gamblingwithanedge@gmail.com, or you can find me at @RWM21 on Twitter or https://www.facebook.com/GamblingWithAnEdge.
Show Notes
[00:00] Introduction
[02:35] Edge sorting at baccarat
[03:44] Kelly's backstory
[06:15] Gemaco and other brands of cards
[08:22] "The Macau way"
[09:20] Automatic shufflers, reusing cards, mini baccarat, cards, and dealers
[14:33] Edge sorting in blackjack
[16:14] Developing the baccarat strategy
[19:39] Playing in Las Vegas, playing with Phil Ivey
[25:30] Playing in Macau
[27:28] Foxwoods
[30:43] Casinos taking freerolls
[32:00] Don Johnson sees Kelly and Phil at The Borgata
[33:43] Different rules in baccarat
[34:44] Eddie stories
[38:51] Funny stories about frugality
[43:04] Commercials
[44:36] Kelly's nicknames
[48:24] Court cases in New Jersey and London
[50:35] Playing video poker in Lake Tahoe
[52:26] Edge sorting in baccarat versus blackjack
[53:43] Exploiting stereotypes
[58:27] Can Kelly still play?
Sponsored Links:
http://Unabated.com
http://VideoPoker.com/gwae
http://BlackjackApprenticeship.com
Books Referenced:
Tales from the Felt
http://store.blackjackapprenticeship.com/products/tales-from-the-felt-an-illustrated-anthology
…
continue reading
We welcome your questions - send them to us at gamblingwithanedge@gmail.com, or you can find me at @RWM21 on Twitter or https://www.facebook.com/GamblingWithAnEdge.
Show Notes
[00:00] Introduction
[02:35] Edge sorting at baccarat
[03:44] Kelly's backstory
[06:15] Gemaco and other brands of cards
[08:22] "The Macau way"
[09:20] Automatic shufflers, reusing cards, mini baccarat, cards, and dealers
[14:33] Edge sorting in blackjack
[16:14] Developing the baccarat strategy
[19:39] Playing in Las Vegas, playing with Phil Ivey
[25:30] Playing in Macau
[27:28] Foxwoods
[30:43] Casinos taking freerolls
[32:00] Don Johnson sees Kelly and Phil at The Borgata
[33:43] Different rules in baccarat
[34:44] Eddie stories
[38:51] Funny stories about frugality
[43:04] Commercials
[44:36] Kelly's nicknames
[48:24] Court cases in New Jersey and London
[50:35] Playing video poker in Lake Tahoe
[52:26] Edge sorting in baccarat versus blackjack
[53:43] Exploiting stereotypes
[58:27] Can Kelly still play?
Sponsored Links:
http://Unabated.com
http://VideoPoker.com/gwae
http://BlackjackApprenticeship.com
Books Referenced:
Tales from the Felt
http://store.blackjackapprenticeship.com/products/tales-from-the-felt-an-illustrated-anthology
383 episodes
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Manage episode 353621334 series 7673
Content provided by Bob Dancer & Richard Munchkin, Bob Dancer, and Richard Munchkin. All podcast content including episodes, graphics, and podcast descriptions are uploaded and provided directly by Bob Dancer & Richard Munchkin, Bob Dancer, and Richard Munchkin or their podcast platform partner. If you believe someone is using your copyrighted work without your permission, you can follow the process outlined here https://player.fm/legal.
This is a throwback episode originally recorded in 2017. Our guest this week is Kelly Sun. The media dubbed her the "Queen of Sorts," and her team mates called her a "baccarat machine." You know her as the mysterious Chinese woman behind the Phil Ivey edge sorting cases in London, and Atlantic City. Also on this show is Michael Kaplan, who has written about Kelly for the NY Times, and Cigar Aficionado, and Lori Chang. Lori is a former member of the MIT blackjack team, and friend of Kelly. Kelly sometimes has trouble with English, and Lori came along to help translate, and share a few stories of her own.
We welcome your questions - send them to us at gamblingwithanedge@gmail.com, or you can find me at @RWM21 on Twitter or https://www.facebook.com/GamblingWithAnEdge.
Show Notes
[00:00] Introduction
[02:35] Edge sorting at baccarat
[03:44] Kelly's backstory
[06:15] Gemaco and other brands of cards
[08:22] "The Macau way"
[09:20] Automatic shufflers, reusing cards, mini baccarat, cards, and dealers
[14:33] Edge sorting in blackjack
[16:14] Developing the baccarat strategy
[19:39] Playing in Las Vegas, playing with Phil Ivey
[25:30] Playing in Macau
[27:28] Foxwoods
[30:43] Casinos taking freerolls
[32:00] Don Johnson sees Kelly and Phil at The Borgata
[33:43] Different rules in baccarat
[34:44] Eddie stories
[38:51] Funny stories about frugality
[43:04] Commercials
[44:36] Kelly's nicknames
[48:24] Court cases in New Jersey and London
[50:35] Playing video poker in Lake Tahoe
[52:26] Edge sorting in baccarat versus blackjack
[53:43] Exploiting stereotypes
[58:27] Can Kelly still play?
Sponsored Links:
http://Unabated.com
http://VideoPoker.com/gwae
http://BlackjackApprenticeship.com
Books Referenced:
Tales from the Felt
http://store.blackjackapprenticeship.com/products/tales-from-the-felt-an-illustrated-anthology
…
continue reading
We welcome your questions - send them to us at gamblingwithanedge@gmail.com, or you can find me at @RWM21 on Twitter or https://www.facebook.com/GamblingWithAnEdge.
Show Notes
[00:00] Introduction
[02:35] Edge sorting at baccarat
[03:44] Kelly's backstory
[06:15] Gemaco and other brands of cards
[08:22] "The Macau way"
[09:20] Automatic shufflers, reusing cards, mini baccarat, cards, and dealers
[14:33] Edge sorting in blackjack
[16:14] Developing the baccarat strategy
[19:39] Playing in Las Vegas, playing with Phil Ivey
[25:30] Playing in Macau
[27:28] Foxwoods
[30:43] Casinos taking freerolls
[32:00] Don Johnson sees Kelly and Phil at The Borgata
[33:43] Different rules in baccarat
[34:44] Eddie stories
[38:51] Funny stories about frugality
[43:04] Commercials
[44:36] Kelly's nicknames
[48:24] Court cases in New Jersey and London
[50:35] Playing video poker in Lake Tahoe
[52:26] Edge sorting in baccarat versus blackjack
[53:43] Exploiting stereotypes
[58:27] Can Kelly still play?
Sponsored Links:
http://Unabated.com
http://VideoPoker.com/gwae
http://BlackjackApprenticeship.com
Books Referenced:
Tales from the Felt
http://store.blackjackapprenticeship.com/products/tales-from-the-felt-an-illustrated-anthology
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