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The power of Data is undeniable. And unharnessed - it’s nothing but chaos. Making data your ally. Using it to lead with confidence and clarity. Host Jess Carter is solving problems in real-time to reveal what’s possible. Helping communities and people thrive. This is Data Driven Leadership, a show brought to you by Resultant.
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Between Two Beers Podcast

Steven Holloway & Seamus Marten

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Good questions. Great guests. Few beers... Steve and Seamus like asking good questions. And they love good answers. After over 20 years of friendship, they bought a microphone and started a podcast, allowing them to sit with, and learn from, the most interesting people they can access. From Kiwi legend Marc Ellis, to media personalities Jeremy Wells and Paddy Gower, Rugby coach extraordinaire Wayne Smith, sexologist Morgan Penn, and Olympian Dame Lisa Carrington... Between Two Beers has prod ...
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For decades, the tennis industry lacked real-time data. Strategic decisions were made based on annual reports, creating lags in insights and inefficiencies. However, within a year United States Tennis Association Director of Digital Business Development Brooke Austin and her team initiated USTA Connect, a digital, data-driven platform gathering rea…
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We have a new show! And you can find it by searching 'Business in Between' in your podcast app. It's a podcast about business, life, mindset, relationships and the inside story of a pretty wild last 12 months. My name is Steve Holloway and alongside my best mate Seamus Marten, we started a podcast called Between Two Beers nearly five years ago in m…
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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Anna Reeve. Anna is the co-founder of Pals, a former model and influencer, a global alopecia ambassador, she won Season 1 of the Traitors and is a mother of twin boys. In this episode we talk about how her clever social media marketing as co-founder of Pals helped the company become a market leader in…
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Steve and Seamus reflect on their recent gig with Josh Kronfeld, discuss the Football Ferns spying controversy, business updates and why they travel to Auckland separatley, reflect on their recent episode with Sione Famuina and look ahead to the Paris Olympics with Between Two Bets. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.…
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Sione Faumuina played 132 NRL matches for the Warriors, Cowboys and Raiders, had two stints in the UK Super League and played two times for the Kiwis. But his career was a troubled one. He had the potential to be one of the greatest sporting talents this country has produced, but was instead consumed by alcohol and erratic behaviour. After retiring…
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For education to be meaningful to students, we need to evolve education from a schooling system to a learning system. That requires modernization and uncommon alliances. In this episode, Erin Mote, the CEO of InnovateEDU who was also recently named District Administration Magazine's most influential and impactful leader and innovator in the K-12 Ed…
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This week we're rewinding the clock back to August of 2022 when we sat down with Eliza McCartney. Eliza is a professional pole vaulter and one of the very best in the world. At the time of recording, her career had stalled after an unfortunate run of injuries. She'd burst onto the scene as a 19-year old, taking home bronze from the Rio Olympics, be…
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Steve and Seamus celebrate their three millionth download and reflect on their first year, they discuss their new podcast series called Accidental Business Owners, discuss recent episodes with Rachel Hunter and Simon Porter and recap all the action in Between Two Bets. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.…
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Rachel Hunter is the girl from Glenfield who made the big time. She was a teen who left school, became a supermodel, married Rod Stewart and became an international celebrity. These days she travels the world as a spiritual teacher and we were lucky enough to grab her for a few hours when she was back in NZ recently. In this episode we talk about h…
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How did the Children’s Hospital Association achieve a data transformation that saved them $2 million annually? They started with a strategic data assessment and got clear on strategy first. Preparation makes all the difference to the smooth execution of such a large initiative. In this episode replay, we’re taking it back with Resultant’s President…
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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Simon Porter. Simon is the CEO of New Zealand’s biggest sporting agency, Halo Sport. His company represents many of NZ’s biggest stars, from Scott Robertson, Ian Foster, Beauden Barrett and Dan Carter to Dame Valerie Adams, Suzie Bates, Gemma McCaw and Willie Apiata. Simon has been working in either s…
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They boys play some clips from their recent interviews on Newstalk ZB and Radio NZ, reflect on recent episodes with Di Foster and Brooke Howard Smith, reveal how they spent three days in Rototura and answer listeners' questions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.By Steven Holloway & Seamus Marten
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Brooke’s life story actually needs a long-form podcast to do it justice – and to cover all his twists and turns. He was an X Games medalist, who at 19 co-created Senate, a skate company that was turning over $14m a year, while touring with Tony Hawk and Matt Hoffman. He lost it all, moved to NZ, opened the legendary Pony nightclub in Auckland, was …
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AI isn’t just for large corporations. Small-to-medium businesses (SMBs) can—and should—leverage the power of AI, too. Not sure how to start? Ben Schreiner, head of the Business Innovation team at AWS, is here to help. Ben joins guest host Justin Bolles to dive into AI’s effects on SMBs and lay out practical steps for getting started with it. He exp…
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Di Foster is one of our low-key legends, who works as a business coach, mindshifter and speaker. We connected with Di late last year as we were transitioning from employees to accidental business owners – and were looking for a wise head to help guide us through some pretty unknown waters. We found Di, who had recently helped former guest Dave Wood…
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Steve and Seamus share all the details of their big night at the NZ Radio and Podcast awards last week, the boys announce their new major sponsor, Steve does a Reflections interview with a 95-year-old man, and they reflect on recent episodes with Shane Bradley and Steve Tew. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.…
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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Steve Tew. These days Steve is a director with High Performance Sport New Zealand, but he’s best known for being the CEO of New Zealand Rugby from 2008-2019. He was the boss when New Zealand held all four World Cups (men's, women's and two sevens), he guided the code through the Respect and Responsibi…
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What keeps formerly incarcerated individuals in their communities and out of prison? The Michigan Department of Corrections set out to answer that question. The key, they discovered, is education. Kyle Kaminski, offender success administrator at Michigan Department of Corrections, and Ben Wories, director of public sector services at Resultant, joi…
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Shane Bradley is one of New Zealand’s most successful business owners. The full number of businesses he’s started and sold are too long to list here; but he’s been the brains behind Finda, Sella, Grab One, Neighbourly, Pet.co.nz, Pet Direct and many more. And his journey to the top has been one hell of a ride. In this episode we talk about dropping…
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It's catch-up time for the lads after Seamus has been away for three weeks. They discuss attending Matt Heath's book launch, their nomination at the NZ Radio and podcast awards, when Seamus is going 'full time' in podcasting, the guest they feel most connected too, answer listener questions and reveal next week's epic guest. See omnystudio.com/list…
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Matt Heath was one of the first ‘big names’ that gave us his time when we just starting out in the podcast game, and this week, coinciding with the release of his new book "A Life Less Punishing" we thought it was a great time to get him back on. Matt is an actor, producer, sports commentator, columnist, musician and radio host and now author, and …
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If you're a parent, you know how critical it is to connect with teachers. And research backs this intuition up. From Harvard to the Journal of Education Research, numerous studies show that family engagement in education boosts student learning outcomes. So, how do we engage families in learning? It all starts with clean data and interoperability. …
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On this episode of Between two Beers we’re rewinding the clock back to February of 2023 when we sat down with Dame Lisa Carrington. This was a really cool chat with arguably New Zealand’s greatest athlete and we wanted to re-share it with all our new listeners. Lisa is New Zealand’s most successful Olympian of all time with five Olympic gold medals…
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Ali Williams is a former All Black who was a professional rugby player for 16 years, played 77 times for New Zealand and won the Rugby World Cup in 2011. This was Ali’s first long-form podcast and it turned into something really quite special. We covered perception vs reality, his blended family operation with mega-successful businesswoman Anna Mow…
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Steve and Seamus discuss the challenge of mixing a friendship with a business relationship, listener questions answered, Will Pike episode reviewed, Seamus' life on the road explained, Jason Gunn, William Pike and Ali Williams. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.By Steven Holloway & Seamus Marten
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How does trust in data shape educational policy? We’re diving into this question today with Dr. David Ramadan, a seasoned executive and international consultant with over 25 years of advocacy, business, and government relations experience. Dr. Ramadan discusses the need for educational policies to embrace a data-driven approach for enhanced student…
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William Pike is one of our low-key legends who is a world-class story teller, with an exceptional story to tell. In 2007 he was guiding a friend to the summit of Ruapehu when the mountain erupted. As a layer of rocks, water and mud rained down on his Dome shelter, he was crushed and critically injured. When he next woke up in hospital, his leg was …
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Dave Wood is best known as being Israel Adesanya’s breathing and mindset coach – and was one of our favourite, and most popular, guests in 2023. He runs a two-day Calm Under Pressure workshop in Piha and the course – and his work has a strong connection to the show. Steve went on it last year, it’s where he was inspired by Jemarl Paerata’s story an…
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Market research reveals Between Two Beers listeners' favourite guest, Steve explains the internet's biggest sensation to Seamus, the boys share what they learned from Steven Bartlett's live show in Auckland, Seamus details his experience at Dave Wood's Calm Under Pressure workshop, David Higgins, Karen O'Leary and much more. See omnystudio.com/list…
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Education change-makers know that when data empowers, it’s much more powerful than data that merely meets compliance requirements. Chief Information Officer for the Georgia Department of Education, Dr. Keith Osburn, and Chief Data Officer Nicholas Handville are doing just that by giving data back to educators across the state in formats that facili…
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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Karen O’Leary. Karen has one of the most interesting career arcs of anyone on our screens. She worked as an early childhood educator for two decades, before being tricked into auditioning for a role in Taika Waititi and Jermaine Clement’s cult-classic feature What We Do In The Shadows. Her head-turnin…
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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Jehan Casinader. Jehan Casinader is an award-winning journalist who is now one of New Zealand’s most sought-after key note speakers. He worked in primetime TV for more than a decade across roles with Sunday., Seven Sharp, Close Up and Breakfast and was named “Broadcast Reporter of the Year” in 2020. J…
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Welcome to episode #2 of the Business in Between podcast. This week we’re re-visiting our chat with Dion Nash from 2022 where we talked about his transition from professional sportsman to business owner. The original recording of this episode went for two hours, with the first 90 minutes focused on his upbringing, family and his professional cricke…
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It's been a busy fortnight for Steve and Seamus. The lads discuss Seamus' commentary for the Wellington Phoenix, delivering a presentation to the Chiefs, recording 8 podcasts in two weeks, Dion Nash's epic business lessons, Sir Ian Taylor, next week's guest and much, much more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.…
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Collecting good data is only half the battle. The next major hurdle? Getting that data into the hands of the people who need it. Data Quality Campaign (DQC) Executive Vice President Paige Kowalski is on a mission to do just that: Get education data to students, families, and educators. As a first-generation college student herself, Paige understand…
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Awen Guttenbeil was suggested to us 18 months ago as a guest with ‘serious depth’. And he did not disappoint. In fact, we loved this ep so much we’re re-releasing it this week for all those who may have missed it a year ago. You may know Awen as one of New Zealand’s greatest rugby league players, with 170 caps for the Warriors over a professional c…
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Sir Ian has lived one hell of a life. He was the lead singer of a rock band, he served in the army, worked at a brewery, studied law, became a kids presenter for TVNZ, then a TV star, before setting up his own production company. Today, he’s one of New Zealand’s top business leaders. His team at ARL have revolutionised how we watch sport, he’s earn…
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Seamus reflects on his social media post about being single for seven years, Steve announces the new business podcast they're making, Seamus visits Dave Wood in Piha, and the boys discuss the epic response from recent episodes with Lauren Rae and Mark Stafford. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.…
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Data is not just a tool. It’s a transformative force, shaping our present and defining our future. As we reflect on season three, host Jess Carter reveals how the power of data extends far beyond the business realm. From unemployment mitigation to sports innovation, data serves as a guiding force for positive change in every facet of our lives. We’…
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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Mark Stafford. This ep is really special. There's just so much goodness in here. Staffy is a radio host, who is best known as the former face of the TAB, where he spent two decades as a bookmaker and broadcaster. But what's not so well-known is his roller-coaster ride through life with all its twists …
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On this episode of Between Two Beers we talk to Lauren Rae. I don't say this lightly, but this is one of the most powerful eps we've done. Lauren is one of our Low Key Legends, who's currently in the fight of her life against melanoma. After going to the Commonwealth Games as a weightlifter, Lauren was given a terminal cancer diagnosis for a rare n…
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Seamus spends a day on David Galbraith's mindset course, Steve shares all the details of where they're investing in the podcast, the boys review recent episodes with Jesse Mulligan and Megan Compain, and preview an upcoming Low Key Legend. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.By Steven Holloway & Seamus Marten
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Data-driven decisions are the future of employment. In this conversation, Indiana Department of Workforce Development Chief of Staff Josh Richardson shares how data can shape employment strategies and personal career paths. Josh shares his journey of working on the development of Pivot, an innovative tool designed to empower individuals experiencin…
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Megan Compain is the newly appointed All Blacks commercial manager, whose back story is as impressive as her new role. She was the first Kiwi to play professional basketball in the USA and the only one to play in the WNBA, had three pro seasons in Europe, and represented New Zealand for 10 years and at two Olympic Games. She also has an extensive 2…
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Jesse Mulligan is one of New Zealand’s best, and highest profile broadcasters – and a man that can do it all. He’s been a standup comic, TV producer, writer, PR man, food reviewer, radio announcer and he’s even a trained lawyer. But he’s best known for reaching huge audiences both on his afternoon show at Radio NZ, and his stints at Seven Sharp and…
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Steve and Seamus discuss their new weekly business meetings and how they're working on their relationship, they reflect on recent episodes with the girls from Sex.Life and Zion Armstrong and reveal who the next guest is. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.By Steven Holloway & Seamus Marten
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Ten years of determination led Nick Elam, assistant professor and program director at Ball State University and consultant for the Canadian Elite Basketball League, to change the future of a 130-year-old institution: the game of basketball. In 2007, he realized that over-reliance on the clock in the fourth quarter brought even the most exciting bas…
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Strap in, because this one’s an epic. Zion Armstrong's story starts in West Auckland and involves running away from the police so fast that he started an athletics career that took him to the Commonwealth Games. At the same time, he was selling sport shoes – and at the age of 24 was head of footwear at adidas NZ. From that toehold he climbed the co…
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On this episode of Between Two Beers we welcome back Morgan Penn and Hayley Sproull from the podcast Sex.Life. A lot has happened since we last had them on the show – including Sex.Life becoming NZ’s top new podcast of 2023. In this episode we trace back over all the most interesting stories and themes from Season 1 – and take a glimpse at Season 2…
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Steve and Seamus recount a wild 24 hours interacting with Jesse Mulligan, Richie McCaw, Ian Foster, Wayne Smith, Laura McGoldrick, Chris Luxon and many more, they analyse Seamus' awkward moment with the Warriors, how he avoided disaster and all the best stories from their night presenting at the Halberg Awards. See omnystudio.com/listener for priva…
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