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They Thought I Was You

Becca Roth & Lani Harms

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Hosts Becca Roth and Lani Harms revisit their childhood obsessions with Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, analyzing their work, examining their impact on pop culture, and talking with the people who worked with them. It's the deep dive you've always wanted and the recognition the Olsen Twins always deserved.
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The scores have been tallied... and today they are finally revealed. In this episode, we continue our scoring starting with Switching Goals and go through New York Minute, and we end up with a final ranking (sub category wins will be announced on our Instagram). Today we decide once and for all what is the BEST Mary-Kate and Ashley movie (proven by…
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Since the beginning of this podcast, we knew this day would eventually have to come. We have spent the past 3 years becoming Mary-Kate and Ashley scholars, dissecting every movie front to back, talking to writers, talking to costars, talking to fellow Mary-Kate and Ashley fans, and leaving no stone unturned. And all that work has made us the most q…
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Continuing our trend of talking to people the internet introduced us to, our guest today is a fellow millennial content creator whose viral Mary-Kate and Ashley-related videos constantly pop up on our feeds. When we reached out to her, we learned that she also listens to our podcast, and we felt like we found our long lost doppelgänger at summer ca…
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A few episodes ago, we talked about Mary-Kate and Ashley’s visit to TRL in 2004 to promote their upcoming film, New York Minute. In that TRL appearance, they were interviewed by a VJ who thought a picture they were in with Robert DeNiro was creepy. We were very confused by this, so we found that VJ on Instagram to get to the bottom of the story, wh…
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This is it. The final episode of our final two-part review of a film starring Mary-Kate and Ashley. This journey has gone faster than a New York Minute. Today we finish our review of the second half of the film and get a little bit deeper into how we felt about it. We unfortunately have to address the incredible misstep of Andy Richter's entire cha…
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We can't believe we're finally here. Our final Mary-Kate and Ashley movie review. And just like we suspected: it's a two part episode. On May 7th, 2004 (exactly 20 years ago today), Mary-Kate and Ashley's final film together, New York Minute, was released in theaters. The movie had an impressive cast including Eugene Levy, Andy Richter, Jared Padal…
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On Saturday, May 15th, 2004, Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen had a decision to make: they could either attend their senior prom or host the season finale of Saturday Night Live. As you probably guessed, they chose SNL. And as a consolation for missing their high school prom, Jimmy Fallon, Will Forte, Maya Rudolf, and Amy Poehler gave Mary-Kate and Ashle…
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We're counting down the days to New York Minute's 20th anniversary, but before we get there, we have to talk about another countdown that is unfortunately a touchstone of this era in Mary-Kate and Ashley's careers: the countdown to their 18th birthday. During the press tour for New York Minute in 2004, which opened just one month before the girls t…
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Today we reckon with one of the most infamous Mary-Kate and Ashley interviews of all time. On April 28th, 2004, Oprah invited Mary-Kate and Ashley onto The Oprah Winfrey Show to discuss their upcoming film New York Minute, to ask about their plans after graduation, and to address the rumors that had been hounding them in the tabloids. And it's that…
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The countdown to New York Minute continues! And today, we're examining all the late night interviews and talk show appearances that Mary-Kate and Ashley did to promote their action comedy feature, New York Minute (excluding their appearance on Oprah, that will be its whole own episode). Many of these interviews happened just days apart, but watchin…
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We are officially on the road to New York Minute! In our next few episodes, we will cover the press & publicity tour that Mary-Kate and Ashley went on in 2004 ahead of their much anticipated theatrical release, New York Minute. And our first stop is the press that Mary-Kate, Ashley and their team didn't have much control over: the tabloids. In 2004…
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On April 29th, 2004, at 17 years old, Mary-Kate and Ashley received a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. And on February 14th, 2024, two thirty-somethings, Lani and Becca, finally visited it. Since Lani and Becca both live in Los Angeles and had somehow never gone to see the Olsen's star, we decided there was no better time than now for our podcas…
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Subscriber-only episode Last month, we received an email from our former podcast guest Deborah Dean Davis (screenwriter of It Takes Two) with the most amazing message: "After alllllllllllllllll these years I took down the It Takes Two film poster..........(sharp intake of breath) and PUT UP A NEW POSTER! The poster... the first poster got a little …
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Welcome to our first interview of 2024! Today we talk with Viviana Rosales Olen and Matt Harkins, the creators of THNK1994 and the masterminds behind the "Olsens Hiding from Paparazzi" museum and the Mary-Kate and Ash Tray. Viviana and Matt tell us about how THNK1994 was first started with a museum in the hallway of their apartment and has blossome…
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Subscriber-only episode We are SO excited to share our very first subscriber bonus episode with you! In this bonus series, we will be discussing Mary-Kate and Ashley adjacent, feminine-centric pop culture of the '00s. And we're starting with the film that defined the "Pink movie" genre for the past two decades: Mean Girls. Becca and Lani saw Mean G…
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In July 2003, Vanity Fair, whether intentionally or not, put together the most monumental photoshoot in history. A photoshoot like nothing that had ever been done before and, dare we say, could never be done again. A photoshoot so deeply iconic, every pop culture loving person still knows 20 years later: "It's Totally Raining Teens." On that fatefu…
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We can finally say it-- HAPPY NEW YEAR! We didn't intend for this to be a 2 part episode, but you know ur girls. We can never have a short conversation ;) So as promised, the remaining questions and long anticipated voice mails are answered in this episode! This episode was the most perfect way for us to end last year and start the new one, and we …
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It’s the most wonderful time of the year— it’s our end of year Q&A! Last week, we collected questions from you— our listeners, Patreon subscribers, Instagram followers, etc, about topics ranging from our favorite Mary-Kate and Ashley dads to what has been the greatest lesson we’ve learned since starting our podcast. We absolutely love doing these e…
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"You know, anonymity is a luxury as well.” - Mary-Kate Olsen, 2023 On Nov 17th, 2023 (that's right THIS year, just a few weeks ago) Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen sat down for an extremely rare interview with Financial Times Fashion to discuss their brand The Row and the meaning of "stealth wealth." We so rarely get a peak into Mary-Kate and Ashley's l…
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Today, we conclude our conversation about Mary-Kate and Ashley's final direct to video film, The Challenge (2003). And if you know this movie, you know that the ending is what makes this film a piece of magic. Both Lani and Becca had parts of the surprise ending spoiled for them, so we thought we were prepared, but we absolutely weren't. We even th…
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On May 3rd, 2003, Mary-Kate and Ashley released their last direct-to-video film, The Challenge, marking the end of an era. Yes, the sisters would go on to star in New York Minute a year later, but that would get a theatrical release, have much higher stakes, and was generally completely different. Starting with the release of Billboard Dad in 1998,…
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Happy Halloween! In celebration of our favorite holiday, we're playing for you the ENTIRE Halloween episode of Two of a Kind: Nightmare on Carrie Street (ep 6). Yes, this show was meant to be watched, but we think it actually works quite well as a little audio drama. We hope you enjoy the flawless writing and impeccable performances in this timeles…
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We are THRILLED to be talking this week about Mary-Kate and Ashley's appearance at MTV's 2003 Video Music Awards and subsequent Rolling Stone Cover (and never again about Mary-Kate and Ashley in Action). On August 28th 2003, Mary-Kate and Ashley made their second appearance at the MTV VMAs. For anyone who doesn't remember, this was a big year for t…
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We can't believe we're finally here. Over the course of the last two months, we've done something we never thought we'd do, something no one asked us to do, something we were maybe never *supposed* to do. We watched every single episode of Mary-Kate and Ashley's 2001 cartoon, Mary-Kate and Ashley in Action. Today we talk about the last three surviv…
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This is our FOURTH episode about Mary-Kate and Ashley's cartoon, Mary-Kate and Ashley in Action. We're completely out of control!! Today we talk about episodes 12-15, 19, and 21, and we follow last week's format of taking turns telling each other what each episode was about. Admittedly, our brains start to bust a bit in this episode because hearing…
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Yes, we are still on our journey through Mary-Kate and Ashley's 2001 cartoon, Mary-Kate and Ashley in Action. We did not intend to do more than a single episode on this show. This is what Mary-Kate and Ashley do to us. Today, we talk about episodes 7-12, but instead of us both watching every episode, we decided to tag-team it. Lani took the odd num…
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Today we continue our journey watching Mary-Kate and Ashley’s fourth and final television series, Mary-Kate and Ashley in Action. In this episode, we review episodes 2-6, and we also give a brief history of the cartoon series. We go over the myriad merchandise Dualstar created before it knew that the cartoon was a failure (including action figures,…
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Incredible news!!! Ashley Olsen and her husband Louis Eisner had a BABY!! His name is Otto Mozart Eisner, and we are absolutely thrilled for them and Mary-Kate (AND Lizzie!!) for becoming aunts. We also think Otto is the cutest name ever, and will referring to him as Otto Olsen whether that’s his full name or not. But also, the biggest story here i…
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Come on, let's save the world-- AGAIN! On October 20, 2001, Mary-Kate and Ashley in Action premiered on the ABC block Disney's One Saturday Morning (according to Wikipedia, but we know it from ABC Family). The show was the first and only animated television series starring Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, and featured the twins fighting crime around the…
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What is your favorite Mary-Kate and Ashley podcast doing watching a Hilary Duff movie?! First of all, don't come at us, second of all, of course we are. During our deep dive of Mary-Kate and Ashley's When in Rome (2002), many of our listeners pointed out to us that we *needed* to watch The Lizzie McGuire Movie (2003). Not only did it come out just …
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Ciao! Bellissimo! Rigatoni! Today we travel to Italy, but not only that, we also travel back in time to 2002 when Mary-Kate and Ashley posted their virtual diary of their European travels on mary-kateandashley.com. And we read every single entry. Mary-Kate and Ashley's trip first starts in Venice where they buy towels and etched glass, then they fl…
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Hello our beloved listener/learns-- we're back!! Today, we're soft launching our new season with a mini episode all about When in Rome's alternate ending. This was shared with us after we recorded our When in Rome episode, which is tragic because this ending changes everything. We could have talked for 5 hours about it, but we kept it under 30 minu…
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Happy Birthday, Mary-Kate and Ashley!! To celebrate this national holiday, we decided to do the most exciting thing we've ever done-- host a real life birthday party for Mary-Kate and Ashley ourselves! And unlike the time Becca was a child and saw the commercial for "You're Invited to Mary-Kate and Ashley's Sleepover Party" and thought she was lite…
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Today we watch what (we think) has been collectively agreed upon by Mary-Kate and Ashley fans as their worst movie. The movie that for some singlehandedly ended their Mary-Kate and Ashley obsession: When in Rome. On November 26th, 2002, When in Rome was released straight to DVD and VHS and followed Charli (Mary-Kate) and Leila (Ashley) as they inte…
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Last episode, we used the Wayback Machine to take a deep dive into marykateandashley.com. We clicked through the clickboards, sent a web-based email, and learned all about the hot new "fash" tips and best highlights for your hair (not the kind you're thinking). But after recording our episode, we realized there was one link we didn't click: the ful…
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In the late 90s, Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen launched one of the most epic websites of all time: marykateandashley.com. For today's episode, because of a wonderful tool called The Wayback Machine, we were able to travel back in time to visit this website in all its glory. In typical They Thought I Was You fashion (or shall we say "fash"), we thought…
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DISCLAIMER: We had an audio malfunction while recording, so the quality of the audio in this episode isn't great. But the conversation is, so please bear with us! On October 27, 2000, Mary-Kate and Ashley released their first video for PlayStation, Mary-Kate and Ashley: Magical Mystery Mall. They already had some success with their Gameboy games Th…
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We have finally come down from the high of having one of the best conversations of our lives with Jane Sibbett two weeks ago, and we are back this week to talk about serious business: Mary-Kate and Ashley's enormous power in 2002. Today, we're talking about a feature "Downtown 20/20" did on the Olsens in February 2002. This caught our attention a f…
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Yes, you read that correctly. Today we're talking to THAT Jane. The queer icon of Friends. The terrible, fabulous villain of It Takes Two. Ms. Clarice Kensington herself, whom we absolutely adoooooore, Jane Sibbett. We were thrilled to sit down with Jane and talk about her career and positively iconic roles in projects that shaped our childhood. Ja…
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Two weeks ago, we talked about Mary-Kate and Ashley's appearance on Jay Leno in 2002, and we noticed a pattern. Every talk show host who ever interviewed Mary-Kate and Ashley (with the exception of Rosie O'Donnell) always did a terrible job. They always ask them if they have boyfriends, they never ask them serious questions about the projects they'…
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We hope ya'll are ready for this one. We had the tremendous honor of speaking with the actress who played one of the most tragic characters in American cinema (or at least in the Mary-Kate and Ashley Universe). Today, we speak to Holly Towne, aka Lyndi, from Getting There. Holly Towne is actually our very first guest who was also a Mary-Kate and As…
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Happy Valentine's Day! And what better way to celebrate the day of love than with the thing we love the most-- Two of a Kind! Today, we're jumping out of our timeline to go back and review Two of a Kind, Ep 15 "No Man's Land" (aka the Valentine's Day episode). Last week, Lani corrected Becca's memory of this episode saying that Ashley's sports date…
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We're continuing our journey through 2002 with a type of episode we haven't done in a while-- unpacking a Mary-Kate and Ashley interview and its implications in their larger treatment in the media! Today we're talking about Mary-Kate and Ashley's appearance on The Tonight Show with Jay Leno to promote Getting There... weird! In 2002, Mary-Kate and …
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We're jumping backwards in our timeline just a bit to revisit a topic that will always be on our minds: the Mary-Kate and Ashley cruises. And today, sharing her truly remarkable experience on Mary-Kate and Ashley's 2000 cruise on the Baltic Sea, we are joined by the one and only Chloe Schildhause. Chloe first shared her cruise story in 2014 in an a…
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You asked, we answered. Well, some of you never asked, but others of you have insisted for months that the Mary-Kate and Ashley books are a very important part of the Mary-Kate and Ashley Universe and have been begging us to talk about them. So today, we read our first Dualstar book, Mary-Kate and Ashley Sweet 16: Getting There. After reading this …
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We cannot believe we kept this interview a secret for an ENTIRE month! It has been absolutely excruciating, and we are so relieved and incredibly excited to finally share our special guest this week. We had the honor of talking with everyone's favorite annoying neighbor, Mary-Kate's best unrequited love, and the sweetest pony-loving, guitar-playing…
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We're BACK for Season 4 with an episode we did not plan on doing. But when one of our girls is in the news, we have no choice but to drop everything. And last week, we got some big news... Ashley Fuller Olsen got MARRIED! But of course in true Olsen fashion, details about the matrimony are not widely available. And since we respect our girls, we tr…
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As we come to the end of the year and Season 3 of our podcast, we thought we'd do something we've never done before-- a Q&A episode with YOUR questions. We asked our listeners, Instagram followers and Patreon subscribers to send us questions about the podcast, Mary-Kate and Ashley, or us personally, and you came THROUGH. We got so many truly fantas…
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Today we conclude our two-part epic journey discussing Mary-Kate and Ashley's sixth direct-to-video full-length feature film, Getting There, about Mary-Kate and Ashley's misadventure getting to the 2002 Olympics in Salt Lake City, Utah. Picking up right where we left off with the gang stranded at home for a third time, in this episode we get to see…
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Today we talk about the film this podcast has been waiting for. The film that divides Mary-Kate and Ashley fans around the globe. The film that made some some of us double down on our MKA obsession and some of us take a step back. Whether you loved it or hated it, chances are you never forgot it. Because it's not about the journey, it's all about G…
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