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This is Industry Relations, a podcast that is at the intersection of real estate and technology from an insider’s perspective. Hosted weekly by Rob Hahn (The Notorious ROB) and Greg Robertson.
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Market Proof Marketing: Home Builder Marketing Insights
Kevin Oakley & Andrew Peek: New Home Marketing from Do You Convert
A weekly new home marketing podcast for home builders and developers. Each week Kevin Oakley & Andrew Peek from Do You Convert will break down the headlines, share best-practices and stories from the front line, and perform a deep dive on a relevant marketing topic. We're here to help you - not sell you! No fluff - just honest perspectives on where to invest your time, money, and energy to get the highest volume of quality new home leads to your sales teams. Take action on these ideas, and y ...
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This is generally an engineering podcast that often pertains to the world of mining, and especially mining waste management, or whatever else captures my imagination. The episodes, thankfully, will be fairly brief.
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“From The Blockchain" brings you today’s most innovative entrepreneurs and thought leaders to unpack the true potential of smart contract technology, web3, and the digital frontier! Host Ashley Smith is thrilled to have you join today’s top tier community of forward thinking trailblazers. This show brings substance over hype - say goodbye to the noise of NFT and cryptocurrency market speculation. Instead, From The Blockchain aims foster a culture of idea sharing, creativity, and innovation t ...
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Guest Episode: A Deeper Look Into The NAR Settlement with Rob Hahn
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Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! 🎙 In this episode, Kevin Oakley sits down with Rob Hahn, Founder of Decentre Labs, to bust open the new NAR settlement! Rob addresses the wrong claims made by the media and walks us through what will change and what will stay the same. Kevin and Rob go through some scenarios to help clear up some confus…
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Chapter 496 - "I Like To Be Immersive In Music" ...as read by Brent Mills of Greyhaven Today we welcome Greyhaven vocalist Brent Mills to the podcast! Greyhaven just dropped their brand new ep, Stereo Grief, on Solid State Records! Brent talks about finding a place among rigid metal scenes and how that’s changing, what has led to long stretches bet…
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Episode 152: A conversation with Dr. Ashok Ghosh
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Ashok is an Associate Professor, Mechanical Engineering and Adjunct Faculty, Civil Engineering , New Mexico Tech at New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology. Ashok and I discuss his involvement in green desalination using forward osmosis.
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Guest Episode: Success With Realtors In A Post-Settlement World with Brian Boero and Bryan Sheppard
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Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! 🎙 In this episode, Kevin Oakley and Mike Lyon sit down with special guests Brian Boero, from 1000Watt, and Bryan Sheppard, the President of Coldwell Banker Select. They discuss the latest impacts and changes caused by the proposed NAR Settlement Agreement - on this special LIVE episode of Market Proof M…
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CoStar Acquires Matterport: The Photography Wars
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How will CoStar’s recent buyout of Matterport affect the industry? In this episode Rob and Greg dive into the recent acquisition of Matterport by CoStar and how Rob and Greg predicted this years ago. How will Zillow respond? And how will other industry giants such as Redfin be affected by this huge announcement? They also talk about Realtor.com's C…
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Chapter 495 - "As Long As I Can Create and Make Art" ...as read by Sammy Kay Today we welcome Sammy Kay to the podcast! Sammy is currently playing guitar in The Kilograms, a new ska/reggae project with Joe Gittleman, formerly of the Mighty Mighty Bostones. The Kilograms released their debut ep earlier this year. Sammy talks about music as a means o…
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Episode 151: A conversation with Rens Verburg
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Rens is a Technical Fellow with WSP and a geochemist with more than 30 years of experience in the mining industry.
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Unpacking Pulte Group's Objection to the NAR Settlement
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Join Rob and Greg in this episode as they talk about the recent objection filed by Pulte Homes to the NAR settlements. Are they valid and will they make an impact? Also, what is Real Estate 3.0? Greg expands on what it means and how it will shift the roles of agents. Rob shares his insights from a recent panel he attended and what the potential for…
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Chapter 494 - "What Am I Going To Leave Behind" ...as read by Joe Calderon of Lightworker Today we welcome back to the podcast Lightworker frontman Joe Calderon. The new Lightworker record, How The Beautiful Decay, is out today on Solid State Records! Joe talks about releasing the band’s debut during lockdowns, why it took so long to release their …
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Chapter 493 - "Keep Moving Forward" ...as read by Tara Hahn of Half Past Two Today we welcome Half Past Two vocalist Tara Hahn to the podcast. The new Half Past Two record, Talk Is Killing Me, is out this Friday on Bad Time Records! Tara talks about how her aunt got her into ska and how growing up in Orange County fostered that love, nearly quittin…
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Guest Episode: Improving The Customer Experience with Jason Hardy
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Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! 🎙 In this episode, Kevin Oakley is joined by Jason Hardy, Co-Founder & CEO at Ownly, to cover customer experience, Ownly, and the pros and cons of builders partnering with realtors. They discuss the excellent customer experience provided by builders and how it is vital for the brand. They consider the n…
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Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! In this episode, Kevin Oakley is joined by Jackie Lipinski and Julie Jarnagin! The three reflect on recent marketing inspirations they’ve seen from embracing objections to endless specification filters and Kevin shares a bit of insight into the NAR settlement. Google is considering acquiring Hubspot and…
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Chapter 492 - "We're Not A Pirate Band" ...as read by Jules Mitch of SETYØURSAILS Today we welcome Jules Mitch from German metalcore band SETYØURSAILS to the podcast! The new SETYØURSAILS record, Bad Blood, is out today, April 12th, via Napalm Records! Jules talks about her dad’s influence on her as a music fan, moving to Cologne and starting the b…
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Not one week goes by without some huge industry news surrounding NAR. In this episode, Rob ang Greg discuss the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals' reversal in the NAR vs. US lawsuit, paving way for a new probe in the wake of the pending commission lawsuit settlement. Rob and Greg explore the antitrust lawsuit's history, implications of the reversal, an…
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Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! In this episode, Kevin Oakley is joined by Beth Russell and Andrew Peek! The Masters is happening near Beth’s residence and Mercedes Benz is a huge sponsor so they have taken over her neighborhood and Beth discovered that Mercedes Benz contributed to the community development in order to do so. The team…
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Chapter 491 - "Prove We're Still A Heavy Band" ...as read by Matt McDougal of Boundaries Today we welcome Boundaries vocalist Matt McDougal to the podcast! Boundaries just released one of my favorite records of the year, Death Is A Little More, on 3Dot Records. Matt talks about getting involved in the Connecticut hardcore scene and the history of B…
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Chapter 490 - "Other Emotions" ...as read by Chaney Elaine of House Parties Today we welcome Chaney Elaine from House Parties to the podcast! House Parties released their latest ep, Side Effects, back in January with Equal Vision Records. Chaney talks about the importance of Hayley Williams and Paramore, being excited to find a band name that wasn’…
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Ep 332: Give Them Something to Talk About
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Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! In this episode, Andrew Peek is joined by Julie Jarnagin and Jackie Lipinski. They watch a TikTok about “personality hires” and discuss their level of importance. Andrew has joined the Tesla family which has made him more aware of the hype surrounding certain brands. This launches the team into a deep d…
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Did you catch the sparks fly on the last episode of Industry Relations? In case you missed it, last week Rob and Greg got into a verbal fistfight. Made up. Became friends again. And are now ready for round 2. Rob and Greg continue their NAR settlement talk, post verbal tussle. Exploring NAR's $418 million settlement, they talk about the association…
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Chapter 489 - "Nothing Is Better Than This" ...as read by Jonah Matranga Today we welcome Jonah Matranga back to the podcast! Iodine Records recently released Onelinedrawing’s Sketchbook 1999-2001, a collection of the Sketchbook ep’s plus some of Jonah’s favorite material from the timeframe on vinyl! Jonah is also the singer for Sons Of Alpha Centa…
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Chapter 488 - "Embrace Yourself and Express Your Feelings" ...as read by Avralize Today we welcome Avralize to the podcast! Avralize recently released their debut record, Freaks, on Arising Empire Records! The guys talks about live music unlocking a love for heavy music, how covid lockdowns led the band to take their music more seriously, the meani…
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Episode 150: A conversation with Carlo Cooper
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Carlo is a director at Minebridge Software, the developers of Muk3D.Carlo and I chat about the capabilities of is software and how it's making TSF design simpler and better.
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Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! In this episode, Jackie Lipinski is joined by Andrew Peek and Beth Russell. The team dissects their recent customer experiences and lament that in both cases they were negative experiences, suggesting tips on ways to improve the process for others. They have noticed an uptick in various people claiming …
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The NAR Settlement: The Good, the Bad, and the Unknown
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What will the recent NAR settlement mean for the future of real estate, technology, and industry navigation? In this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the outcomes of the recent NAR settlement. They provide insights on the agreement, exploring their reactions and perspectives on the settlement's details. From provisions to backlas…
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Chapter 487 - "Accidental Hardcore Frontman" ...as read by Rob Fish Today we welcome 108 and Unsufferable frontman Rob Fish to the podcast! Unsufferable dropped their first two songs earlier this year with Iodine Records! Rob talks about discovering hardcore, his involvement with Hare Krishna, how he keeps ending up fronting hardcore bands, his app…
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Chapter 486 - "We Have A Voice That Is Going To Be Heard" ...as read by Venues Today we welcome back to the podcast Robin and Lela from Venues! The new Venues record, Transience, is out this Friday, March 29th, via Arising Empire Records! Robin and Lela discuss the contrasts between this album cycle and Solace, the band undergoing lineup changes an…
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Chapter 485 - "I Like That The Record Expresses Something" ...as read by Jørn Kaarstad of Bokassa Today we welcome Bokassa guitarist and frontman Jørn Kaarstad. Bokassa released All Out Of Dreams back on February 16th with Indie Records! Jørn talks about the lack of a punk scene growing up, the struggles of picking a band name, touring with Metalli…
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Ep 330: Too Many Stats, Not Enough Questions
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Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! In this episode, Kevin Oakley is joined by Jackie Lipinski and Julie Jarnagin! Julie has been given the option to have her book “Building Certainty” turned into an audiobook with AI which sparks a debate among the team as they wrestle with the concept. They discuss the endless amount of statistics dropp…
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A Multi-Million Dollar Settlement: Unpacking NAR's Landmark Deal with the DOJ
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Tune in to this must-listen episode of *Industry Relations* for an incisive breakdown of the NAR's landmark settlement, its ramifications, and the many lingering questions that promise to shape the discourse in real estate circles for years to come. Whether you're a real estate professional, an industry watcher, or just keen on understanding the fo…
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Chapter 484 - "I Should've Been Able To Have Those Conversations" ...as read by Frail Body Today I’m stoked to share my chat with Lowell and Nic from Frail Body! Frail Body will release their new record, Artificial Bouquet, next Friday, March 29th, on Deathwish Records. The guys talk about the Rockford Illinois scene, their love for screamo, signin…
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Chapter 483 - "Let's Write A Metal Album" ...as read by Joel Hokka of Blind Channel Today we welcome Joel Hokka, lead vocalist for Finnish nu metal band Blind Channel to the podcast! Blind Channel recently released Exit Emotion on Century Media Records. Joel talks about the band’s love for Linkin Park, how Covid got the band to participate in Eurov…
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Chapter 482 - "A Soundtrack To Everybody's Life" ...as read by James Clark of Kill The Lights Today we welcome James Clark, vocalist for Kill the Lights to the podcast! Kill the Lights released Death Melodies last week on Fearless Records! James talk about moving to America to play soccer, staying to pursue music, the formation of Kill the Lights, …
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Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! In this episode, Kevin Oakley is joined by Andrew Peek and Jen Barkan! The three talk about their favorite moments from the International Builders' Show and Kevin shares the advice he gave leaders who were wanting to know the best solution for getting salespeople to use CRM's: a public wall of shame. Th…
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Is the Real Estate Industry Getting Their Mojo Back?
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What does the future hold for real estate commissions? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg discuss the Clarity event and the legal updates regarding real estate commissions. They explore the concept of concessions and the issue of steering in the industry, the need for improved buyer agency agreements and buyer presentations and the…
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Chapter 481 - "Expressing What We Have In Our Minds" ...as read by Defocus Today we welcome Simon and Jeffery from Defocus to the podcast. Defocus released There Is A Place For Me On Earth back on March 1st via Arising Empire Records! The guys talk about their musical backgrounds, releasing music during lockdowns, expanding their sound on the new r…
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Chapter 480 - "This Is All I've Done With My Life" ...as read by Shane Handal Today we welcome Shane Handal to the podcast! Shane is the frontman for Philly indie rock band Timelost. Timelost released their new album, Drained, back on February 23rd via Church Road Records. Shane also works for Atom Splitter PR! Shane talks about growing up and the …
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Chapter 479 - "We've Been Called 100 Genres Already" ...as read by Floya Today we welcome Phil and Marv from Floya to the podcast! New Floya record, Yume, is out today on Arising Empire Records! The guys talk about their metalcore backgrounds, how they teamed up to start Floya, the origin of the band name, releasing their album single by single and…
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Episode 149: A conversation with Carlos Hubner
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Carlos is the RTFE at the Cobre Panama mine which is owned by First Quantum Minerals. The mine is currently under shutdown orders by the Panamanian government. Carlos and I discuss the challenges of maintaining a tailings facility that is in hiatus.
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Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! In this episode, Kevin Oakley, Julie Jarnagin and Jackie Lipinski hop on for a quick episode to give their recap on the 2024 International Builders’ Show! Their one word takeaway from the show is “accountability”. Despite the constant buzz of AI the team agrees that in the end it always came back to peo…
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Chapter 478 - "Growth Can Be Brutal" ...as read by Emily Highfield of Suldusk Today we welcome Emily Highfield from Suldusk to the podcast! Suldusk released Anthesis last Friday on Napalm Records! Emily talks about music as a safe place, finding a community on SoundCloud, discovering a love for black metal, pushing the aggression on Anthesis, and m…
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Chapter 477 - "It Sounded Like Fun" ...as read by Taylor Roberts Today we welcome Taproot guitarist and Riding With Killers frontman Taylor Roberts to the podcast! Riding With Killers released Full Circle back in December and Taylor and I chatted in January. Taylor talks about his painting business, the struggle to find his place in the Gulf Coast …
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Chapter 476 - "A Reflection Of The World We're Living In" ...as read by Boris from Moneky3 Today we welcome Monkey3 guitarist Boris to the podcast! Monkey3 released Welcome To The Machine last Friday on Napalm Records. Boris talks about how the band's name is a tribute, the struggles of trying to find a vocalist and what led to the band going the i…
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Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! In this episode, Andrew Peek is joined by Beth Russell and Jackie Lipinski! The team dives into several topics all of which point toward leadership knowledge and action. They discuss the need for leaders to take initiative to expand the knowledge of their team when it comes to marketing, suggesting tips…
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Who bears the brunt of legal defense costs? What financial toll does this uncertainty cast on associations? On this episode of Industry Relations, Rob and Greg dive into the pressing issues faced by the National Association of Realtors (NAR) and its profound impact on local associations, MLSs and brokers. The insurance dilemma that has recently com…
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Chapter 475 - "We Didn't Expect That Kind Of Focus" ...as read by Øystein Brun of Borknagar Today we welcome Borknagar guitarist Øystein Brun to the podcast! Borknagar released Fall last Friday on Century Media Records. Øystein talks about how doing press has changed over his 30 year career, the rise of the Norwegian metal scene, how the album artw…
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Chapter 474 - "The Niche Can't Be Completely Obscure" ...as read by Leah Today we welcome symphonic metal vocalist Leah to the podcast. Leah released her new record, The Glory and The Fallen, today. Leah talks about discovering symphonic metal, creating a fanbase without touring, the theatrical and visual elements of Leah, her dreams for the future…
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Episode 148: a conversation with Lindsay Newland Bowker
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Lindsay is an expert in risk management and Executive Director at World Mine Tailings Failures. We discuss here amazing career, and her involvement in tailings which came to her later in life.
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DOJ Drops Statement of Interest in the Nosalek Case
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What impact will the Department of Justice's stance on the MLS settlement have on the future of buying and selling houses? In this important episode of "Industry Relations," Rob and Greg talk about a big message from the Department of Justice (DOJ) about the MLS settlement. The DOJ seems to want the court to say no to the settlement. Selling agents…
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Chapter 473 - "Rock Will Always Be Appreciated" ...as read by Damien Douleur of The Requiem Today we welcome Damien Douleur frontman for The Requiem to the podcast. The Requiem released A Cure To Poison The World last Friday on Fearless Records. Damien talks about growing up as an immigrant in the United States, creating music for art instead of ch…
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Like and subscribe on your favorite platform! In this episode, Andrew Peek is joined by Beth Russell and Julie Jarnagin who are gearing up to go to the IBS Show next week!! The team discuss internal communication and reporting, offering ways to do it more effectively and observing that sometimes a lack of communication can be a result of lack of kn…
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