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The Trinity doctrine is perplexing. Many Christians prefer explicit Scriptures on the one God over catholic creeds. Mark Cain explores living as a lower-case-u unitarian amid a trinitarian majority with insights and stories from unorthodox guests.
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podcast 381 – Mainstream Christian Theologies in the year 240: What Trinitarian Apologists Don’t Know
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In videos like this one and this one, trinitarian apologists continue to push false narratives about the history of mainstream Christian theologies, like these (ordered from least to most plausible): In this historical presentation, focusing on passages from Tertullian, Origen, and Novatian, I explain the actual early history of mainstream Christia…
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In today's episode, Laurence and Paul try to make the book of Proverbs, in the Old Testament, easier to read. They explore the theme of wisdom contained within this unique and sometimes challenging book. By breaking down its seven distinct sections, from fatherly advice to the young, through to reflections at the end of life, they aim to make Prove…
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Special Edition with Dale Tuggy and Mark Cain: the UCA comes to the UK!
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Paul and Dan talk with Dale Tuggy and Mark Cain to find out about all the work they do with the Unitarian Christian Alliance (UCA) including their upcoming first conference outside the US to be held in Windsor, London 25 July 2024. They also discuss how increasing numbers of people are coming to understand the Biblical God, rather than one of the m…
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Dan is joined for this episode by Rachel Hocking from Brisbane, Australia. Rachel has been instrumental in the creation of the latest Worship Book, a further collection of "Psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs" crafted by members of the Christadelphian community. Together, they discuss the origins, development, and significance of the Worship Book pr…
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podcast 380 – Dr. Dustin Smith on Wisdom Christology in the Gospel of John
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To understand a book as its author intended, you don’t look to its future, but rather to its past. What has this author read, and what could he presuppose his audience to have read? These other pieces of literature are like tools in the author’s hands. The biblical book of Proverbs famously features a vivid personification, Lady Wisdom. She pleads …
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84. Trinitarians Made Me Cry (And It's Not What You Think) - Kassie Woodard
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After leaving The Way International, their first experience left them shocked. Reflections on life within a high-control bubble. RESOURCES 83. Trinitarian Cultic Authority The Way International - https://www.theway.org/ 313 Questioning Way International Doctrines (William Barlow) - Restitutio 18. Rex’s Legacy / Music of Grace / The Loaf - Laura Var…
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What do cults and Trinitarianism have in common? A hermeneutical analysis, plus audio comic, and bi-personarianism. RESOURCES Restorationist Manifesto, Restitutio James White and Dale Tuggy debate: “Is Jesus YHWH?” 13. An Absolute Distrust of Unitarians - Kevin George (Part 1) 14. An Astounding Disappointment in Experts - Kevin George (Part 2) Jeho…
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In this episode, instead of a high level overview, we delve deep into one specific passage, the "in the form of God" verse in Philippians 2, to explore the possible nuanced interpretations. Josh Dean and Dan Weatherall consider this complex and much debated passage. Focusing on what it means for Jesus to be "in the form of God", they navigate throu…
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podcast 379 – AI and I evaluate my debate with James White
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The way to evaluate a debate is to actively chart and compare the arguments made by each side. Debaters call this “flowing” a debate. I sat down and did this, working carefully all the way through my recent debate with James White on the question “Is Jesus Yahweh?” In this episode I’ll give you my evaluation of the debate, with an assist from the c…
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82. Experiencing the Tuggy/White Debate, Street Interviews, and Post-debate Roundtable
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Experience the James White / Dale Tuggy debate ("Is Jesus YHWH?") first hand, with "man on the street" interviews and a next-day roundtable discussion. RESOURCES Dale Tuggy and James White debate: "Is Jesus YHWH?" (best quality, with slides) Curious Christianity (YouTube channel) Curious Christianity - Discussion with Dr. Tuggy on Intellectual Hone…
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In this episode Dan and Paul embark on an exploration of John's Gospel, unraveling its sense of majesty and mystery right from the opening verses. They discuss the unique structure and content of John's Gospel, comparing it to the Synoptic Gospels—Matthew, Mark, and Luke—highlighting its distinct opening, key themes, and the explicit purpose stated…
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podcast 378 – Debate: Is Jesus Yahweh? White vs. Tuggy – Part 2
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In this episode: mutual interrogations, closing statements, and audience questions and answers. Which side put forward the stronger opening case? Which did a better job in rebuttal? What if anything was revealed by the mutual interrogations? What if anything was added by the brief closing statements? And which answers to audience questions did you …
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podcast 377 – Debate: Is Jesus Yahweh? White vs. Tuggy – Part 1
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This episode contains the Pro and Con opening statements and rebuttals from the debate on March 9, 2024 between James White and Dale Tuggy in Houston, Texas. The debate question is “Is Jesus Yahweh?” Which side makes the stronger opening arguments? Which side does a better job at rebutting the other’s opening arguments? Because of our many slides, …
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81. Reconstructing to Relationship - Josiah Wright (Part 2)
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Josiah's reemergence from agnosticism blossomed into a relationship with God beyond his expectations. RESOURCES 1. The Perilous Trinity Deep Dive 20. The Good, the Bad, and the Boys Home - Josiah Wright 80. Deconstrucing to Agnostic - Josiah Wright (Part 1) Matthew 16 - The Pharisees demanding a sign UCA Conference UCA Events Page Crowdsourced shor…
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podcast 376 – The Trinity, the Deity of Christ, and the Best Craig – Part 2
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This is the final part of my response to some recent podcast episodes by Dr. William Lane Craig here and here. Dr. Craig accuses me of being disingenuous in claiming that his minimal, so-called “biblical” doctrine consisting of two sentences is not enough to count as a trinitarian theology. I stand by that claim, and point out that it is unclear wh…
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podcast 375 – The Trinity, the Deity of Christ, and the Best Craig – Part 1
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In this episode I first explain what I mean by “the best Craig” and why in my view we’re not getting that in some recent responses to my arguments. I then respond to some recent podcast episodes by Dr. William Lane Craig here and here, where Craig is not engaging with my arguments, instead dismissing me as a fringe kook who can be safely ignored. I…
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Dan and Jon discuss the relevance and impact of Christianity in the modern world. They delve into how aspects of Christianity have influenced society, not only in superficial ways like our calendar, but in deeper things such as values, moral codes, and societal norms. The hosts reference various sources, including notable historians and authors lik…
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80. Deconstructing to Agnostic - Josiah Wright (Part 1)
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A journey from Christianity into agnosticism, a first-hand perspective of a young man born in the era of limitless information. RESOURCES 20. The Good, the Bad, and the Boys Home - Josiah Wright Allegience to the King (A2K) 75. Ready to Go, Young Adults Roundtable #UCAcon2023 UCA Events Page 79. UCA UK International Conference Roundtable - Daisy Jo…
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79. UCA UK International Conference Roundtable - Daisy Jones, David Fenton
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Excitement, laughter, and plans for the first ever international UCA conference from two of the brilliant team members helping make it happen. RESOURCES Christadelphians Bill and Stephanie Schlegel testimony video URC Christ Church, Windsor, UK Jeremiah 29:12 - Come and pray to me Dynamic Monarchianism: The Earliest Christology? from Theophilus Pre…
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In our first episode of 2024 Paul and Dan talk about "intertextuality" - basically, how the meaning of a text is influenced by references to other texts. The Bible (not surprisingly) is full of links between its 66 books. But how far can we take this? Can we go too far and see patterns where there are none (like seeing the face of Jesus in a slice …
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78. Success, Hubris, and the Titanic - Rex Cain
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Responding to success and to difficulty demands a humble heart. Host Mark Cain shares a historical lesson on the Titanic from his dad (1938-2017). RESOURCES 521 The Deity of Christ from a Greco-Roman Perspective (Restitutio Podcast) 521 The Deity of Christ from a Greco-Roman Perspective (YouTube presentation) 67. Why Is the Trinity Mainstream? Atla…
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podcast 374 – Book Session Identity Crisis – Part 3
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This episode is the final portion of the EPS session devoted to the forthcoming book, One God, Three Persons, Four Views, edited by Dr. Chad McIntosh. You’ll hear the entire Q&A portion of the session, plus my commentary thereupon. Topics include: Jesus and the “one like a son of man” in Daniel 7 Jesus’ claim in Mark 2 and in Matthew 9 to be author…
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Have yourself a lesser known Christmas story!
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Relaunching the podcast, Dan and Laurence celebrate by pondering a lesser known Christmas story. They encounter Simeon, Anna and a community of people in the temple at Jerusalem "waiting for the consolation of Israel". As the baby is held high by Simeon, they realise that the birth of Jesus is not only deeply rooted in a backstory, but is the clima…
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podcast 373 – Book Session Identity Crisis – Part 2
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In this second part (part 1 here) you’ll hear the mutual interrogation portion of the EPS session on book One God, Three Persons, Four Views, with plenty of commentary by me and some extra relevant audio. This portion of the session contains a number of interesting exchanges. Among them: Hasker (via McIntosh) asks me whether my views entail that Go…
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77. Four Views Panel Debrief, Evangelical Theological Society - Dale Tuggy, Brandon Duke
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Reflections from Dale and Brandon on their experience at ETS (unitarians in a sea of trinitarians), where Dale sat on a panel before 200+ Evangelicals. RESOURCES 4 views on the Trinity - William Lane Craig, Dale Tuggy, Beau Branson, William Hasker TruthBorn.org Divine Deception and Monotheism, paper by Dale Tuggy William Lane Craig William Hasker T…
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podcast 372 – Book Session Identity Crisis – Part 1
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In this episode you’ll hear the four opening speeches in a book session at the Evangelical Philosophical Society conference in San Antonio, Texas in November of 2023. The book is One God, Three Persons, Four Views, edited by Chad McIntosh, forthcoming probably deep into 2024. (See UCA podcast #77 for the back story about the book.) The speakers are…
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podcast 371 – Dr. Steven Nemes on divine Christology in the New Testament
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Is the New Testament Jesus "divine," and is he supposed to have two natures?
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podcast 370 – Dr. Steven Nemes’s formal challenge to Trinity theories
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Exploring a new argument against any sort of catholic Trinity theory.
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76. Reiki, New Age Mysticism, and the Purge - Heather Bonsall
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Heather practiced reiki and new age mysticism, then saw the light and in isolated study, launched a journey into truth and peace. RESOURCES James 1:13 - Lured by desire Mark 12:29 - Jesus quotes the Shema Matthew 16:16 - The confession of who Jesus is Restitutio Podcast - Sean Finnegan Some famliar spirit passages: Leviticus 19:31, Isaiah 8:19, Isa…
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