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Learn how the smartest people in the world are using AI to think, create, and relate. Each week I interview founders, filmmakers, writers, investors, and others about how they use AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Midjourney in their work and in their lives. We screen-share through their historical chats and then experiment with AI live on the show. Join us to discover how AI is changing how we think about our world—and ourselves. For more essays, interviews, and experiments at the forefron ...
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38: Are we vastly underestimating AI? with Dwarkesh Patel
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A couple hundred people in San Francisco may be on the cusp of inventing artificial general intelligence (AGI). Yet most people are not paying close attention, are skeptical, and are certainly not in the room. Dwarkesh pulls back the curtain so that the broader public can understand what people who are actually building AI think is going to happen.…
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Dwarkesh Patel’s Quest to Learn Everything - Ep. 27
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This episode is sponsored by Command Bar, an embedded AI copilot designed to improve user experience on your web or mobile site. Find them here: https://www.commandbar.com/copilot/ Dwarkesh Patel is on a quest to know everything. He’s using LLMs to enhance how he reads, learns, thinks, and conducts interviews. Dwarkesh is a podcaster who’s intervie…
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How to Be a Smarter Reader in the Age of AI - Ep. 30 with Alex Wieckowski
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Alex Wieckowski is on a mission to make you fall in love with reading again—and he thinks AI can help. Alex, who writes a newsletter that captures lessons from books he’s read and tips to become a better reader, Alex & Books, is a creator with over 1 million followers across social platforms. He’s also the author of a book of quotes that will inspi…
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How Packy McCormick Finds His Next Big Idea - Ep. 29
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One of the most influential voices in tech explains how AI helps him write and invest. This episode is sponsored by Create. If you want to maximize your gains, both with your body and with ChatGPT, try creatinine gummies from Create. Place your order through this link to get a 30 percent discount: https://trycreate.co/products/creatine-monohydrate-…
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How a Top Podcaster Rides the AI Wave - Ep. 28 with Nathaniel Whittemore
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Keeping up with AI is Nathaniel Whittemore’s full-time job—and I spent an hour with him to understand how he does it. Nathaniel is the host of a top-ranked AI podcast on the technology charts, The AI Daily Brief, which breaks down the most important news in AI every day. He is also the founder and CEO of Superintelligent, a platform that teaches yo…
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Patrick McKenzie - How a Discord Server Saved Thousands of Lives
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I talked with Patrick McKenzie (known online as patio11) about how a small team he ran over a Discord server got vaccines into Americans' arms: A story of broken incentives, outrageous incompetence, and how a few individuals with high agency saved 1000s of lives. Enjoy! Watch on YouTube. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platf…
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37: The Housing Expert Guiding the Homebuilding Industry, with John Burns
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John Burns is a renowned expert on the housing market. In this episode, John unravels the complexities of today’s economic climate and housing trends, providing a comprehensive analysis of the housing market, demographic shifts, homebuilding industry, and rental sector. Whether you're a homeowner, investor, or simply interested in economic trends, …
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The Internet Creator's Guide to the Future - Ep. 26 with Steph Smith
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Steph Smith is the ultimate internet explorer. I spent an hour talking to her about the future of creating on the internet in the age of AI. She’s our first-ever repeat guest, and if you watch the episode you’ll see why: It’s a curious, fun, experimental romp through the best of the digital world. We try out four underrated AI products, go through …
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The AI-powered Era of Scientific Discovery Is Here - Ep. 25 with Dr. Bradley Love
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Dr. Bradley Love is building a tool that can predict the future. Dr. Bradley Love is transforming neuroscience research with AI. He's the creator of BrainGPT, a large language model that can predict the results of neuroscience studies—before they’re conducted. And it performs better than human experts. We spent 90 minutes exploring how AI is reshap…
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Tony Blair - Life of a PM, The Deep State, Lee Kuan Yew, & AI's 1914 Moment
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I chatted with Tony Blair about: - What he learned from Lee Kuan Yew - Intelligence agencies track record on Iraq & Ukraine - What he tells the dozens of world leaders who come seek advice from him - How much of a PM’s time is actually spent governing - What will AI’s July 1914 moment look like from inside the Cabinet? Enjoy! Watch the video on You…
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She Built an AI Product Manager Bringing in Six Figures—As A Side Hustle - Ep. 24 with Claire Vo
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Claire Vo built ChatPRD—an on-demand chief product officer powered by AI. It’s now used by over 10,000 product managers and is pulling in six figures in revenue. The best part? Claire has a demanding day job as the CPO at LaunchDarkly. So she built all of ChatPRD herself—over the weekend—with AI. I sat down with Claire to talk about how ChatPRD wor…
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What Do LLMs Tell Us About the Nature of Language—And Ourselves? - Ep. 23 with Robin Sloan
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An interview with best-selling sci-fi novelist Robin Sloan One of my favorite fiction writers, New York Times best-selling author Robin Sloan, just wrote the first novel I’ve seen that’s inspired by LLMs. The book is called Moonbound, and Robin originally wanted to write it with language models. He tried doing this in 2016 with a rudimentary model …
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Francois Chollet, Mike Knoop - LLMs won’t lead to AGI - $1,000,000 Prize to find true solution
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Here is my conversation with Francois Chollet and Mike Knoop on the $1 million ARC-AGI Prize they're launching today. I did a bunch of socratic grilling throughout, but Francois’s arguments about why LLMs won’t lead to AGI are very interesting and worth thinking through. It was really fun discussing/debating the cruxes. Enjoy! Watch on YouTube. Lis…
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Is NotebookLM—Google's Research Assistant—the Ultimate Tool For Thought? - Ep.22 with Steven Johnson
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We use it to find bestselling author Steven Berlin Johnson’s next project. I sat down with bestselling author Steven Johnson to see if we could come up with a concept for his next project—using AI. The results were amazing. We loaded 200,000 words of NASA transcripts and all of Steven’s reading notes since 1999 into NotebookLM, Google’s personalize…
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Leopold Aschenbrenner - China/US Super Intelligence Race, 2027 AGI, & The Return of History
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Chatted with my friend Leopold Aschenbrenner on the trillion dollar nationalized cluster, CCP espionage at AI labs, how unhobblings and scaling can lead to 2027 AGI, dangers of outsourcing clusters to Middle East, leaving OpenAI, and situational awareness. Watch on YouTube. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platform. Read the …
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36: Breakthroughs in military technology: Lessons from history and future implications
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Artificial intelligence has the potential to revolutionize warfare and reshape geopolitics. Professor Andrew Wilson, professor of Strategy at the US Naval War College, explores the transformative power of military technology throughout history and its implications for the future. In this episode of Onward, host and Fundrise CEO Ben Miller and Profe…
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Learn how the smartest people in the world are using AI to think, create, and relate. Each week I interview founders, filmmakers, writers, investors, and others about how they use AI tools like ChatGPT, Claude, and Midjourney in their work and in their lives. We screen-share through their historical chats and then experiment with AI live on the sho…
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35: The 5 patterns of technology breakthroughs
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Although each major technology wave is unique—mainframes, the personal computer, internet, mobile, cloud, and now AI—the way they have played out has been surprisingly consistent. The core financial, product, and economic patterns repeat each innovation cycle and help define which companies go on to win or lose. In this episode, Ben and Cardiff ide…
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John Schulman (OpenAI Cofounder) - Reasoning, RLHF, & Plan for 2027 AGI
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Chatted with John Schulman (cofounded OpenAI and led ChatGPT creation) on how posttraining tames the shoggoth, and the nature of the progress to come... Watch on YouTube. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platform. Read the full transcript here. Follow me on Twitter for updates on future episodes. Timestamps (00:00:00) - Pre-t…
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Kevin Roose Has 18 New Best Friends—And They're All AIs - Ep. 21
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New York Times journalist Kevin Roose has 18 new friends—none of whom are human. Kevin formed a collection of “friends”—AI personas with distinct personalities and backstories—using apps like Kindroid and Nomi. Among these were fitness guru Jared, San Francisco-based therapist Peter, and pragmatic trial lawyer Anna. He talked to them every day for …
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Is Prompting the Future of Coding? - Ep. 20 with Nick Dobos
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Nick Dobos, maker of the #1 programming GPT, on prompt-gramming with AI You can go from having an idea to deploying a live website in minutes. All you have to do is prompt Grimoire, the number-one custom GPT for programming, with an image or even a single word about your idea. As you watch the LLM process your request, Grimoire works with a web hos…
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He Built an AI Model That Can Decode Your Emotions - Ep. 19 with Alan Cowen
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The future of AI technology isn’t just faster or more powerful—it’s empathetic. My guest for this episode, Alan Cowen, is leading the charge with the first-ever emotionally intelligent AI. Alan is the co-founder and CEO of Hume, an AI research laboratory developing models trained to identify and measure expressions of emotion from voice inflections…
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Mark Zuckerberg - Llama 3, Open Sourcing $10b Models, & Caesar Augustus
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Mark Zuckerberg on: - Llama 3 - open sourcing towards AGI - custom silicon, synthetic data, & energy constraints on scaling - Caesar Augustus, intelligence explosion, bioweapons, $10b models, & much more Enjoy! Watch on YouTube. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platform. Human edited transcript with helpful links here. Timest…
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Reid Hoffman on How AI is Answering Our Biggest Questions - Ep. 18 with Reid Hoffman
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Learn how to use philosophy to run your business more effectively Reid Hoffman thinks a masters in philosophy will help you run your business better than an MBA. Reid is the cofounder of LinkedIn, a partner at venture capital firm Greylock Partners, the host of the Masters of Scale podcast, and a prolific author. But before he did any of these thin…
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This Best-selling Author Wrote a Book in 30 Days—With ChatGPT - Ep. 17 with Seth Stephens-Davidowitz
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Seth-Stephens Davidowitz wrote a book in 30 days—and he did it with ChatGPT. Seth is a data scientist, economist, and author who challenged himself to write a book—Who Makes the NBA?—in less than 1 month after realizing how fast he could work by using ChatGPT plugin Advanced Data Analysis. But along the way he discovered something else: Writing wit…
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Sholto Douglas & Trenton Bricken - How to Build & Understand GPT-7's Mind
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Had so much fun chatting with my good friends Trenton Bricken and Sholto Douglas on the podcast. No way to summarize it, except: This is the best context dump out there on how LLMs are trained, what capabilities they're likely to soon have, and what exactly is going on inside them. You would be shocked how much of what I know about this field, I've…
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Take Your Business From Zero to One With AI - Ep. 16 with Nicholas Thorne
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Nicholas Thorne is building Squarespace for the AI age. It’s called Audos, and it’s an AI chatbot to help any entrepreneur go from idea to: - Pitch deck - Working website - Custom GPT - User interviews with real customers All in just a few minutes. And he did it using ChatGPTapp. It’s AI all the way down—and it’s one of the most impressive AI busin…
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Prozac and ChatGPT: How Technology is Changing the Way We See Ourselves - Ep. 15 with Peter D. Kramer
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Antidepressants changed my life. I have OCD and antidepressants did what nearly a decade of therapy, meditation, and supplements couldn’t: they allowed me to live my life without being in a 24/7 spiral. (Bonus: they actually made therapy and meditation far more helpful once they started to work.) I think antidepressants are seriously misunderstood.…
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34: Race against recession: growth vs. debts in America
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Two roads diverged before the US. One the way of growth and the other the way of a debt spiral. In this episode, Cardiff Garcia and Ben Miller look at the state of US dynamism vs. indebtedness, and the narrow path that would lead to a prolonged US boom. They scenario plan three potential futures: the continuation of current growth trends, a major r…
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How to Run a Profitable One-person Internet Business Using AI - Ep. 14 with Ben Tossell
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You can build and run a one-person internet business that earns half a million in annual revenue—with AI. Ben Tossell showed me exactly how in this episode. Ben is the founder of Ben’s Bites—one of the best daily AI newsletters out there, which I love reading every day—and an investor in a number of promising early-stage AI startups. Ben is also an…
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Can Gemini 1.5 Pro Beat Our Best Stock Trade? - Ep. 13 with Jesse Beyroutey
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I made the greatest trade of my life with Jesse Beyroutey in 2019. We bought Nvidia shares when they were trading at $33. They’re worth nearly $800 today. I sat down with Jesse to top that trade in 90 minutes using Gemini Pro 1.5’s incredible 1 million token context window—and make a $1,000 trade live on the show. Jesse is a managing partner at IA …
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Demis Hassabis - Scaling, Superhuman AIs, AlphaZero atop LLMs, Rogue Nations Threat
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Here is my episode with Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind We discuss: * Why scaling is an artform * Adding search, planning, & AlphaZero type training atop LLMs * Making sure rogue nations can't steal weights * The right way to align superhuman AIs and do an intelligence explosion Watch on YouTube. Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any oth…
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How a Hollywood Director Uses AI to Make Movies - Ep. 12 with Dave Clark
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You can break into Hollywood with a movie you made alone in your room without using a single camera. Dave Clark showed me how live on this show. Dave Clark is a film director and commercial director with experience working with brands like HP and Intel who is now experimenting with cutting-edge AI technology. He recently produced a popular sci-fi s…
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Patrick Collison (Stripe CEO) - Craft, Beauty, & The Future of Payments
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We discuss: * what it takes to process $1 trillion/year * how to build multi-decade APIs, companies, and relationships * what's next for Stripe (increasing the GDP of the internet is quite an open ended prompt, and the Collison brothers are just getting started). Plus the amazing stuff they're doing at Arc Institute, the financial infrastructure fo…
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She’s Running a Business, Writing a Book, and Getting a PhD—with ChatGPT - Ep. 11 with Anne-Laure Le Cunff
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Are you a curious person with a lot of ideas and little time? Anne-Laure Le Cunff can show you how to do it all. Anne-Laure is the founder of one of my favorite internet communities for curious minds, Ness Labs, a prolific writer, and a neuroscience PhD candidate. She’s also writing a book, Liminal Minds, that’ll be out later this year. And she sai…
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How to Find Your Next Big Idea Hiding on the Internet - Ep. 10 with Steph Smith
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The next big idea is hiding in plain sight. It’s right here, scattered across the internet in incoherent fragments. Steph Smith, my guest for this episode, knows how to connect the dots. Steph Smith is a prolific online creator, host of the a16Z podcast, author of a book about building a successful blog called Doing Content Right, and creator of In…
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How to Make a Video Game With ChatGPT in 60 Minutes - Ep. 9 with Logan Kilpatrick
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You can make a video game without writing a single line of code. Logan Kilpatrick uses ChatGPT to show me how. Logan is OpenAI’s first developer relations and advocacy hire. A big part of Logan’s job is supporting the community of builders using ChatGPT, DALL-E, and the OpenAI API. He’s also deeply invested in growing this community, convinced that…
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33: On the state of housing, with economist Ali Wolf
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On the latest episode of Onward, Fundrise CEO Ben Miller is joined by Ali Wolf, Chief Economist at Zonda and one of the smartest people we know for analyzing and understanding housing and the economy. As we’re still in the early weeks of 2024, Ben and Ali’s conversation focuses on lessons learned from the past year, when a confluence of factors res…
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Tyler Cowen - Hayek, Keynes, & Smith on AI, Animal Spirits, Anarchy, & Growth
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It was a great pleasure speaking with Tyler Cowen for the 3rd time. We discussed GOAT: Who is the Greatest Economist of all Time and Why Does it Matter?, especially in the context of how the insights of Hayek, Keynes, Smith, and other great economists help us make sense of AI, growth, animal spirits, prediction markets, alignment, central planning,…
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ChatGPT for Radical Self-betterment - Ep. 8 with Gena Gorlin
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Dr. Gena Gorlin (https://twitter.com/Gena_I_Gorlin) is a clinical psychologist at UT Austin whose goal is to raise the ceiling on human potential. I sat down with her to discuss how ChatGPT has become a key tool in her quest for radical self-betterment. In this episode, she feeds ChatGPT a list of her old journal entries, and it conducts the most t…
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Economist Tyler Cowen on How ChatGPT Is Changing Your Job - Ep. 7 with Tyler Cowen
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Tyler Cowen is an economist who has been thinking about the impact of technology on life, work, and the economy for the past decade. He is a prolific writer behind the leading economic blog Marginal Revolution, a professor of economics at George Mason University, and the author of 17 books. In this episode, I dive deep with him on how ChatGPT will …
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Lessons from The Years of Lyndon Johnson by Robert Caro [Narration]
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This is a narration of my blog post, Lessons from The Years of Lyndon Johnson by Robert Caro. You read the full post here: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/lyndon-johnson Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platform. Follow me on Twitter for updates on future posts and episodes. Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at www.dwarkesh…
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This is a narration of my blog post, Will scaling work?. You read the full post here: https://www.dwarkeshpatel.com/p/will-scaling-work Listen on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or any other podcast platform. Follow me on Twitter for updates on future posts and episodes. Get full access to Dwarkesh Podcast at www.dwarkeshpatel.com/subscribe…
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How David Perell Uses ChatGPT to Write for Millions - Ep. 6 with David Perell
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David Perell is one of the best known internet writers of his generation. He’s amassed almost a half million followers on X, hosts the popular podcast How I Write, and founded Write of Passage, which has taught thousands of students how to be digital writers. We go deep on using ChatGPT to: Doing deep reading of old books Finding anecdotes that spr…
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I spoke to Pramit Bhattacharya an independent data journalist about India's statistical system. We talked about How did Indian statisticians adapt their statistical methods to account for India's informal sector? How are India's GDP numbers constructed? Why it's so hard to outright manipulate GDP numbers The case for optimism…
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You Can Build an App in 60 Minutes with ChatGPT - Ep. 5 with Geoffrey Litt
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This show might be a first in the history of podcasts: Researcher Geoffrey Litt and I built an app together using ChatGPTapp and Replit in under 60 minutes—while we talked. We wanted to show how AI and ChatGPT change who gets to build software and how they usher in a world where everyone can modify and remix the apps they use every day. So we…
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Ep 56: Talking AI Regulation with Harry Law
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I talked with Harry Law of the University of Cambridge and Google DeepMind about AI regulation We talked about Me vs Harry on open source AI regulation Being humble when regulating AI Why a "Manhattan Project for X" is overrated
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In this final Onward episode of 2023 co-hosts Cardiff Garcia and Fundrise CEO Ben Miller kick things off by discussing Ben’s major market call: The conclusion that the real estate market has hit bottom. After 18 months of escalating interest rates punishing the real estate industry, small businesses, and regional banks, we’ve entered a new period w…
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How to Use ChatGPT as a Copilot for Learning - Ep. 4 with Nathan Labenz
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Sometimes ChatGPT is a copilot, sitting beside you, taking directions, and guiding you as you fly through your work. At other times, it’s a subordinate. It’s not just an assistant or a companion, but a trusted deputy, someone—or something—that’ll heed instructions and complete tasks. This is how our guest, Nathan Labenz, thinks about ChatGPT. In th…
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Ep 55: Adaptive markets and crypto with Derek Wong
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I spoke with Derek Wong about the adaptive markets hypothesis, macro investing and investing in cryptocurrency markets We talk about Why investors should consider the financial markets as a complex adaptive system How investing in China is very different from investing in the West How he invests in crypto without fundamental anchors…
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