A mindset, money, and life podcast for late starters catching up to Financial Independence.
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Known for making the complex simple, the cornerstone of Manisha Thakor’s work is a concept she calls “MoneyZen,” a joy-based approach to personal finance rooted in simplicity, freedom and abundance. As the Director of Wealth Strategies for Women at Buckingham and the BAM ALLIANCE, and the co-author of two critically acclaimed personal finance books for women, Manisha is an ardent financial literacy advocate. As a member of the firm’s investment policy committee, Manisha is passionate about i ...
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Modern Financial Wellness is the podcast dedicated to helping you feel better about your finances. We will explore the psychology of money and delve into the emotional aspects that shape our financial decisions and how we feel about them.
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Doña Quixote, Life Energy, and The Coming of Aging | Vicki Robin | 94
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Join Bill and Jackie in an engaging conversation with Vicki Robin, co-author of the best-selling book 'Your Money or Your Life'. Vicki shares her insightful philosophy on financial independence, community resilience, and the power of frugality. She discusses her journey from active community building to aging with purpose on Whidbey Island, and how…
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Millennial Revolution is in The House! | Kristy Shen, Bryce Leung & Little Matchstick | 93
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Subscribe and Watch on YouTube Kristy Shen and Bryce Leung are the dynamic duo behind the Millennial Revolution blog and movement. In this insightful episode, Kristy and Bryce discuss their journey from house-hunting to achieving Financial Independence (FI) and retiring in their early 30s. They delve into why they chose to reject traditional housin…
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In this episode, I talk to Erika Wasserman, Your Financial Therapist, to explore the relationship between money and emotions. Erika shares her journey from learning finances from her father to a dynamic career that included significant life transitions, such as marriage, children, divorce, and inheriting assets. Through these experiences, Erika dee…
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Twin Towers: Lessons in Financial Freedom from Wall Street to Main Street | The Wealth Twins | 92
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Subscribe and Watch on YouTube Meet Nadia and Nicole, the Wealth Twins! Raised by a single mother in New York City's toughest projects, these twin sisters overcame obstacles to graduate from Columbia University, work on Wall Street, and ultimately achieve early retirement. In this episode, they recount experiences from 9/11 and the 2008 financial c…
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Stacking Washingtons in Joe’s Mom’s Basement and The Efficient Frontier | Joe Saul-Sehy | 091
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Subscribe and Watch on YouTube Joe Saul-Sehy of Stacking Benjamins joins the show to discuss financial planning, overcoming debt, and the importance of surrounding yourself with the right people. Joe shares his personal journey of financial mismanagement as a young financial planner, the principles behind the efficient frontier, and his thoughts on…
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In the Line of FIRE | Escaping Avalon | 090
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Subscribe and Watch on YouTube Bill and Jackie sit down with 'Jay,' an anonymous guest who shares his incredible journey from a military and police background to achieving financial independence by the age of 39. Jay discusses his experiences on the SWAT team and as an undercover detective, and the mental health challenges that came with his career…
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Twin Wins with the Baughier Brothers: CampFI, EAGLE Cohousing, and Fiology | David & Stephen Baughier | 089
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Meet David and Stephen Baughier, twin brothers and prominent figures in the Financial Independence community. David, a 20-year Navy veteran and founder of Fiology, and Stephen, creator of CampFI, share their financial journeys from early money lessons to becoming community leaders. David, Stephen, Bill, and Jackie discuss the impact of life events,…
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EP: 017 "F.I.R.E for Dummies" w/ Author Jackie Cummings Koski
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On this episode I talk to the author of the new book "F.I.R.E for Dummies", Jackie Cummings Koski, CFP®️. Jackie's road to an early retirement in her forties began with a wake-up call during her divorce. She walks us through her journey from conquering her fear of the stock market by joining an investment club, educating herself on the ins and outs…
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Why Does the Stock Market Always Go Up? | Brian Feroldi | 088
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Today we dive deep into the stock market with special guest, Brian Feroldi. As a financial educator, YouTuber, and author of “Why Does the Stock Market Go Up?”, Brian shares his wisdom on the long-term growth of the S&P 500, the significance of stock market indices, and the nuances of volatility and investment strategies. Bill, Jackie, and Brian di…
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The Transformative Power of Handwritten Letters | Amy Weinland Daughters | 087
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Subscribe and Watch on YouTube Amy Weinland Daughters is an award-winning author and keynote speaker, who joins Bill and Jackie to chat about the powerful impact of handwritten letters in the digital age. Amy shares her unique journey of reconnecting with an old friend, leading to an inspiring project of writing 580 letters to her Facebook friends.…
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The Powers of Starting Late, Retirement Calculators, and More | Chris Mamula | 086
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Subscribe and Watch on YouTube Chris Mamula, a former physical therapist who achieved early retirement at 41, shares his journey from financial mistakes to becoming a Certified Financial Planner (CFP) and a prominent voice in the FIRE movement. Discover practical tips on budgeting, saving during peak earning years, and utilizing retirement calculat…
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Better Late Than Never: A Step By Step Guide Part 2 | BiggerPockets Podcast | 085
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Here is the second half of Bill and Jackie’s conversation with Mindy and Scott on the BiggerPockets Money Podcast. They dig into the practical steps on how to start your financial journey as a late-starter. Enjoy! 🔗 Connect with us Buy CUtFI a coffee Record a message for CUtFI Thank you to our sponsors: Personal Finance Club (Use code CUTOFI to get…
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The Power of Reinvention with The Financial Tortoise | Tae Kim | 084
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Tae Kim, also known as the Financial Tortoise online, is a former U.S. Army captain, MBA graduate, and finance director turned successful personal finance YouTuber. He shares his journey from being $105,000 in student debt to achieving financial security and discovering the Financial Independence movement. Tae chats with Bill and Jackie about his e…
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Better Late Than Never: A Step By Step Guide Part 1 | BiggerPockets Money Podcast | 083
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Bill and Jackie were invited to join Mindy and Scott on the BiggerPockets Money podcast to go through a step-by-step process of how to get started on the path to financial independence as a late-starter, a topic highly relevant to their audience. Take a listen to this week's part one and then tune in next week for part two! 🔗 Connect with us Buy CU…
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Can Prenups Really Save Your Marriage? | Aaron Thomas | 082
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Meet Aaron Thomas, an attorney, founder of Prenups.com, and author of the book "The Prenup Prescription." In perfect time for wedding season, Aaron chats with Bill and Jackie about how a proper prenup can not only protect but improve your relationship. As a former divorce attorney who helped hundreds of clients secure favorable settlements, Aaron s…
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How to Think About Time: A Humble Legacy | Jonathan Clements | 081
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Today we're rerunning our episode with Jonathan Clements who is a dear personal friend and a friend of our community. He recently posted on his blog, HumbleDollar, about his final lap around the sun yesterday. Let’s send him our love. 🔗 Connect with us Buy CUtFI a coffee Record a message for CUtFI Thank you to our sponsors: Personal Finance Club (U…
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Green Makes Green | Kyle Landis-Marinello | 080
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Kyle Landis-Marinello is a practicing attorney specializing in environmental and energy law. Bill and Jackie dive deep with Kyle into topics such as socially responsible investing, student loan forgiveness, and his book, Personal Finance and Investing: How Anyone can Make More, Spend Less, and Invest Wisely. We also learn about Kyle’s unique financ…
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Indiana Jones and an Extraordinary Life with the Donegans | Alan and Katie Donegan | 079
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Meet the dynamic duo, Alan and Katie Donegan! The Donegans, known for their Rebel Finance School and Rebel Business School, share their insights on living an extraordinary life, both financially and personally. From defining what “extraordinary” means on an individual level to the importance of financial independence and entrepreneurship, Alan and …
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CyberFI and the FBI | Donna Peterson | 078
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Donna Peterson is a retired supervisory special agent and joins Bill and Jackie to cover the essential topic of internet and financial security. Drawing from her extensive background in combating cybercrime with the FBI, Donna shares her expert advice on how to secure personal and financial information against common hacks, the importance of two-fa…
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The Life and Death of The 4% Rule | Christine Benz | 077
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Christine Benz is the Director of Personal Finance and Retirement Planning at Morningstar. Christine shares her extensive insights into retirement planning, emphasizing the flexibility and adaptability of the 4 percent guideline over the rigid 4 percent rule. She discusses the value of variable withdrawal strategies, the importance of personalizing…
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The Wealthy Custodian Part 2: From Janitor to Millionaire | Jeff York | 076
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In part 2, Jeff York continues his discussion with Bill and Jackie about the financial importance of amicable divorces, the nitty gritty on his investments, and how he was able to "graduate" on his modest salary. The three also dive deep into Jeff's unique lifestyle, the necessity of personal health before and after retirement, and the rewarding na…
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Pop Up Podcast: Behind the Sensation Talking FI with the NY Times | 075
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In this special pop up episode, Bill, Jackie, and special guest Amy Coroso engage in a thought-provoking discussion sparked by a controversial New York Times Magazine article about the FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) movement. The three chat about the article's portrayal of diverse financial independence approaches as well as the articl…
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The Wealthy Custodian Part 1: A Blue Collar Guide to Financial Freedom | Jeff York | 074
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Jeff York is a remarkable individual whose journey from custodian to millionaire offers a wealth of inspiration and practical advice. Jeff's story breaks down conventional barriers, showcasing the power of education, financial literacy, and personal responsibility. From his unique investment strategies and the importance of health to his experience…
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Sustainable FIlosophy with Mr. Money Mustache | Pete Adeney | 073
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He’s here, Mr. Money Mustache! Also known as Pete Adeney, the financial independence OG shares his story with Bill and Jackie. From retiring at 30 and starting one of the most popular blogs in the community to the importance of choosing sustainability with your money. The three discuss some of Pete’s most impactful articles (listed below), highligh…
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Celebrating Financial Literacy Month with Next Gen Personal Finance | Tim Ranzetta | 072
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In celebration of Financial Literacy Month, Tim Ranzetta, co-founder of NextGen Personal Finance, chats with Bill and Jackie on the transformative power of teaching personal finance to students. Discussing stats, stories, and strategies, this episode covers everything from the ripple effects of financial literacy to state-level advocacy for require…
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From Tech Stocks to Toilet Brushes: The Jensens' FI Journey | Mindy and Carl Jensen | 071
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Although you’ve probably heard of this powerful pair, Mindy and Carl Jensen hop onto our show to share their personal journeys to financial independence and beyond. The Jensens discuss their experiences with podcasting, real estate investing, individual stock investments, and the lifestyle adjustments they've made after achieving financial independ…
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Pathfinders: Triumphs and Trials on the Road to Financial Independence | JL Collins | 070
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In Part 2 of Bill and Jackie’s conversation with JL Collins, the three explore his latest book “Pathfinders” and unravel the powerful narratives that underscore the ethos of financial independence. The trio discuss various topics such as the significance of starting early in investments, the pivotal moments which define one’s financial path, and th…
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Pathfinders: Stories of Success and Financial Independence | JL Collins | 069
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Welcome back, JL Collins! Affectionately known as the Godfather of FI, Collins returns to discuss his latest book, "Pathfinders: Extraordinary Stories of People Like You on the Quest for Financial Independence" which explores real-life stories of individuals from diverse backgrounds navigating the journey toward financial freedom. Bill and official…
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Don't Miss Out On Today | Mark Ross | 068
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Mark Ross is a retired executive and a rewired encorepreneur. Mark shares his journey from a traditional career into retirement and how he shaped a fulfilling post-retirement life through diversifying his interests, categorizing his work into things he does for a fee, for free, and just for himself. Through his personal story, he highlights the imp…
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Catching the Wave to FI | Doug Nordman & Carol Pittner | 067
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Doug Nordman and Carol Pittner are a financially-savvy father-daughter duo who take us on their money journey as a family. From learning about money management through unique family practices like the “Bank of Carol,” to achieving financial independence, Doug and Carol share the milestones, strategies, and setbacks of their financial journeys. They…
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Paula Pant is the creator and host of the Afford Anything podcast. She is also a writer, speaker, and media commentator on financial independence, real estate investing, money management, and financial literacy. Today Paula joins us to dive deep into the world of scams, particularly focusing on the elderly. We explore why scams are so convincing, a…
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Dumpster FIRE and the FIRE Brigade | Lauren Beltz | 065
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Lauren Beltz is an engineer turned personal finance enthusiast who shares her insights on budgeting and financial independence with Bill and Becky. The three discuss topics such as the role of contentment in personal finance, necessity of an emergency fund and insurance, and tips for successful budgeting. They also touch on the concept of zero-base…
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On the Road With Catching Up to FI | $lackers Part 2 | 064
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To wrap up this installment of On the Road with Catching up to FI, Becky and Mark chat with Vince and Briana from their $lackers group. Vince discusses his transition to retirement and Briana sheds light on how she's preparing for her future while still working full-time. Thank you to the $lackers for sharing your stories with us! 🔗 Connect with us…
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EP: 016 Love, Money & ADHD: How Neurodivergence Impacts Your Finances w/ Christine Hargrove
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On this episode I am joined by Christine Hargrove, PhD candidate at The University of Georgia. Christine's work centers around ADHD, Relationships and Finances and we had a great conversation about the intersection of all three of those things. ADHD is something that my family lives with, which in the past has sometimes made it challenging for my w…
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Retirement Planning Tips | Andy Panko | 063
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Andy Panko is the founder and owner of Tenon Financial, a retirement planning and investment management firm, and Tenon Tax Preparation, a tax return preparation company. Andy joins Becky and guest co-host, Mark, to discuss retirement planning, the role and value of annuities, when to claim social security, and how to determine if you have saved en…
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EP: 015 An Intro to Financial Biases w/ Mary Bell Carlson
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Dr. Mary Bell Carlson, CFP®, AFC®, is a financial behavior expert, well-known speaker, podcaster, and storyteller and I was excited to have the chance to talk to her about her work around Financial Biases. We had a really wide ranging conversation in which we cover... Mary's extremely unique career thus far. Having spent time in Washington D.C. wor…
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On the Road With Catching Up to FI | $lackers Part 1 | 062
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Meet the $lackers! Becky and guest co-host, Mark Trautman, introduce us to this fun-loving and world-traveling group made up of individuals who started as a mastermind and now enjoy doing life together. This week we meet Bob and Sharon, a couple who share about their transition into retirement, and Kevin, who offers insights on retirement life and …
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Unpacking Retirement Planning Strategies | Kevin Lyles | 061
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Kevin Lyles, a retired lawyer turned retirement guru and coach, joins Becky and guest co-host Mark Trautman to discuss several aspects of planning for retirement, both financial and non-financial. Kevin talks about the difference between retirement planning and financial advice during the accumulation phase. He advises on how to navigate Social Sec…
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EP: 014 Living Big: Using Curiosity and Creativity to Create the Life You Want w/ Rochelle Seltzer
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Creativity is something that often appears as a key ingredient in finding purpose and living a meaningful life. I find that connection between creativity and purpose to be really fascinating, which is why I was excited to have the opportunity to talk to Rochelle Seltzer. Rochelle is an award winning designer, author and coach and she joined me to t…
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Reflections and The Big Reveal! | Bill Yount & Becky Heptig | 060
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This week is a bittersweet episode for the Catching Up to FI team as our beloved friend and co-host, Becky, announces she’s stepping down from the podcast next month in order to pursue other aspirations during her go-go years of retirement as well as spend more time with her grandkids. While she may not be asking questions on the podcast, be sure t…
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EP: 013 Love & Money: How Joint Bank Accounts Help Your Marriage w/ Jenny Olson
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Merging your finances and having joint bank accounts when you get engaged or married might seem like a good idea. But it turns out that it's actually backed by science as well! I sat down with Jenny Olson, Assistant Professor of Marketing at Indiana University's Kelley School of Business to discuss her work around all things couples and money, but …
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EP: 012 Finding Your Purpose In Life, The Japanese Secret of Ikigai w/ Neil Bage
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On this episode I talk with Neil Bage about Ikigai, the Japanese concept that combines the words "Iki" or "Life" and "Gai" or "Worth". Combined the word Ikigai means, "That which gives your life worth, meaning, or purpose". Finding purpose and living a life filled with meaning are important things to pursue, but these concepts can sometimes feel di…
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Dr. Bobby Talks Healthspan | Dr. Bobby Dubois | 059
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Dr. Bobby Dubois is a Harvard graduate and physician-scientist who joins Catching Up to FI to talk about the six components of functional health: exercise, sleep, nutrition, mind-body work, exposure to hot and cold, and social relationships. Dr. Dubois takes us through each of these areas, sharing palatable advice backed by scientific evidence. Thi…
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What the (Insurance) Hack? | Chris Hutchins | 058
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Chris Hutchins is an experienced life hacker and financial optimizer. Chris chats with Bill and Becky about his treasure trove of hacks, bringing attention to ones that deal specifically with insurance. From auto to property, and term life to travel insurance, Chris shares valuable tips and insights on how to manage these policies more efficiently.…
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EP: 011 Finding Your "Enough" w/ Manisha Thakor
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On this episode of MFW I talk with Manisha Thakor about her new book "Money Zen: The Secret to Finding Your Enough". In the book Manisha shares her struggles with workaholism and "hustle culture" and how she's left behind the constant quest for "more" and created a life filled with balance and meaning. I believe that the word "Enough" can be one of…
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CRASH!: Money Trauma and Recovery | Shannah Game | 057
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Find Shannah on Instagram and TikTok @shannahgame 🔗 Connect with us Buy CUtFI a coffee Record a message for CUtFI Thank you to our sponsors: Personal Finance Club (Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only!) Measure Twice Money ($100 OFF "Create Your Own Financial Plan" Comprehensive Video Course) Nectarine: Advice-Only…
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EP: 010 Breaking Money Silence w/ Wealth Psychology Expert Kathleen Burns Kingsbury
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On this episode I discuss the often difficult subject of "Talking About Money" with Wealth Psychology Expert, Author and Coach Kathleen Burns Kingsbury. Through her work Kathleen inspires women, the next generation, and financial professionals to break their money silence and live richer, more satisfying lives. THINGS YOU WILL LEARN: Kathleen descr…
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Simplicity, Empathy, Leadership, Robots, Oh My! | Jeremy Schneider | 056
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Jeremy Schneider is the passionate financial educator behind Personal Finance Club and the innovative platform Nectarine. Jeremy shares his unique perspective on the simplicity of financial success, underscored by his simple rules - 'live below your means' and 'invest early and often.' We delve into the value of robo-advisors versus human advisors,…
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EP: 009 F.I.R.E: Charting a Healthy Coarse Towards Financial Independence w/ Allen Mueller
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In this episode I talk with Financial Planner Allen Mueller about F.I.R.E, Financial Independence Retire Early. What it is and isn't, how to go about seeking financial independence and things to consider if you plan to retire early. YOU WILL LEARN ABOUT: F.I.R.E - What it is and isn't Allen’s journey from engineer in a cubicle to being an independe…
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We are honored to have Manisha Thakor, author of "Money Zen," as our guest. Manisha shares her personal journey navigating the pressures of high achievement and workaholism to discover what truly matters. Through her poignant stories and insights, we delve into the meaning of "enough" in both personal finance and emotional wealth. Join us as we exp…
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