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Journey to Transformation

Teia Rogers & Lauren Burrows

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Teia and Lauren have worked in the humanitarian, development, and peacebuilding fields for...long enough. Now they’re travelling around in a campervan, on a journey to understand what organisational transformation does, and could, look like. Join them each week as they discuss their non-profit experience and invite guests from across different sectors to pull back the curtain on how organisations function (or not) and understand what can be done on an organisational and individual level to a ...
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At the 2023 UK Evaluation Society presentation, we synthesised our experience with national and international non-governmental organisations, focusing on the pragmatic application of Kimberlé Crenshaw's intersectionality and the Data Feminism principles of Catherine D'Ignazio and Lauren F. Klein while addressing ethical considerations and strategie…
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Please donate to the Maui Strong Fund to support victims of the fire. The Maui Strong Fund is providing financial resources to support the immediate and long-term recovery needs for the people and places affected by the devastating Maui wildfires. In this episode, we delved into the topic of Greenpeace's protest at the residence of UK Prime Ministe…
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📬 Fan Mail Frenzy! Lauren and Teia dive deep into the mailbag this week, uncovering some juicy challenges from listeners. Why? Because they dare to ask the tough questions! And let's not forget – exclusive behind-the-scenes van pics on the way. Vantastic, right? 🎯 Main Event: Dissecting Disaggregated Data! Ever felt like "disaggregated data" sounds…
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Lauren and Teia take a close look at the buzz around the 'Triple Nexus' approach. It's about weaving humanitarian aid, development, and peace-building into one strategy, but is it really a novel idea? Tune in as your hosts unpack the Triple Nexus approach. They'll separate the hype from the substance and explore if organisations claiming to 'do the…
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In this episode of Journey to Transformation, Lauren and Teia take on the concept of cultural relativism and its entanglement with ethical conflicts in international development. Picture a religious holiday dinner – your family tradition might dictate turkey, while another household might insist on pancakes and spam. Can one impose their tradition …
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In part two of our deep dive into conflict sensitivity, hosts Lauren and Teia further unravel this critical approach. Conflict sensitivity – it’s more than just a buzzword; it's an essential development toolkit. But what exactly is it, and how does it shape our work in crisis-affected regions? What implications does it have for humanitarian efforts…
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This week, Lauren and Teia discuss conflict sensitivity. It's more than just an academic concept; it's an intrinsic part of any transformative process that warrants thoughtful understanding. We don't shy away from the tough stuff. Ethical challenges? We discuss them. Delicate dilemmas? Absolutely. Surprising trade-offs? They're on the table too. We…
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Teia and Lauren ARE BACK. This time traversing the realm of Participatory Action Research. They exchange academia for the actual, revealing the power of context and genuine conversations. It's an informative dive into the complexities of community dynamics and how evaluators' identities play a significant role in uncovering authentic narratives. Tu…
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On the back of some thought-inducing conversations recently, Lauren and Teia tackle 'white allyship'. What does it mean? How does a white person know when they are (or not) a white ally? What does this look like in our everyday interactions? We take you from the coffee shop to the check out counter and to the organisation you work for... WARNING: T…
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In this enlightening episode of our podcast, we delve deep into the amusing yet significant terrain of the 'Saviour Complex' and the 'Superhero Complex.' Particularly common amongst high achievers and workaholics, these fascinating psychological phenomena could be affecting you or those close to you. Are you the kind of person who's always switched…
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Values and Jurassic Park were an unexpected meet-up in this episode. Lauren and Teia talk about a decision that echoed the cautionary wisdom of Dr Ian Malcolm from Jurassic Park: We were so preoccupied with whether we could that we didn't stop to think if we should. The decision? To cease work until they were certain that the delivery genuinely ref…
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In this episode, we unpack the complex issue of the right to protest, using the recent protests at the King’s coronation as a case study. We delve into the implications of the arrests made during these protests, the controversy surrounding new protest-related legislation in the UK, and discuss the balance between freedom of expression and public sa…
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Join us for a wild ride as the World Bank evolves under new leader Ajay Banga, tackling Fragility, Conflict, and Violence while navigating power dynamics and the controversial Gentlemen's Agreement. We talk development intrigue, power plays, and green ambitions in this thrilling tale of transformation. We briefly mention the recent Coronation. We'r…
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Join Lauren and Teia as they share their lively adventures at Camp Quirky, the captivating van life festival in the UK. Listen to how Teia delivered an inspiring self-defence class tailored for van life owners and the duo's spirited interactions with fellow van enthusiasts. Inspired by a new space at Camp Quirky called "Camp Queerky", this got Laur…
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In this podcast episode, we discuss the book "Factfulness" by Hans Rosling and its key themes, including challenging misconceptions and adopting a fact-based understanding of global trends. The episode delves into the "negativity bias," a psychological phenomenon that leads us to perceive the world as more negative than it is. We explore its implic…
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In this second instalment of our engaging discussion on Oxfam's Inclusive Language Guide, Lauren and Teia dive deeper into the content, examining the guide's specific suggestions like using "partner" and "parenthood" as more inclusive language alternatives. They candidly share their opinions on putting these recommendations into practice and ponder…
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In part one of this two-part series, Lauren and Teia examine the recent controversy surrounding Oxfam's Inclusive Language Guide, exploring the motivations behind its creation, the reactions it has sparked, and the implications it has for broader conversations around inclusion and language. Throughout the episode, Teia and Lauren provide a nuanced …
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It's our 60th episode, and Lauren's going solo! She takes us on an insightful journey into the world of Talk to Loop with special guests Alex Ross, the Director of Talk to Loop and Mpala Nkonkomalimba, a Monitoring and Evaluation specialist. Talk to Loop is a groundbreaking feedback platform revolutionising the humanitarian and development sector, …
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Get ready to dive headfirst into the mysterious realm of Non-Disclosure Agreements (NDAs) in the nonprofit sector with your trusty guides, Lauren and Teia! In this episode of Journey to Transformation, they embark on a fun, investigative, and informative adventure unravelling the hidden truths behind NDAs.They'll take you on a roller coaster ride t…
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In this captivating and insightful episode, Teia shares her upcoming three-week clinical trial adventure with listeners. As she embarks on this unique journey, Lauren and Teia discuss the challenges and benefits of participating in clinical trials, emphasising the importance of staying informed and asking questions about one's health. They also del…
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Lauren and Teia are back with another spicy episode. This time, they delve into the often-unquestioned power of the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD) and its Development Assistance Committee (DAC) criteria. Relevance, Coherence, Effectiveness, Efficiency, Impact and Sustainability are the criteria included in this framew…
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In Part 2 of The Feminist Shake Up hosts Teia and Lauren continue their discussion with the founders of We are Feminist Leaders, Leila and Natalie. The conversation centres around the challenges of implementing feminist principles in organisational structures, as well as the importance of self-care in activism and leadership. The hosts and guests t…
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In this episode, hosts Lauren and Teia sit down with Leila Billing and Natalie Brook, the co-founders of We Are Feminist Leaders, to explore the need for a new kind of leadership in the non-profit sector, one that is guided by feminist principles and values. They discuss the challenges of addressing decades of colonial, white-supremacist, protectio…
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In this episode, Lauren and Teia explore the concept of an "Equity Pause" - a critical time for organizations and individuals to pause and reflect on who may be excluded from an evaluation, project, or programme. They discuss how this reflection is an important framework and tool for any non-profit organization or company to be proactive about not …
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Lauren and Teia announce they will be going away for a strategic planning session to reflect on their journey as micro-business owners. They aim to reconnect with their ‘why’, reflect on their power and revisit how feminist principles have changed. Taking the space to reflect isn’t always easy, but there is recognition in ensuring the right hills a…
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In this episode, Lauren and Teia explore the long-standing issue of racism in the non-profit, humanitarian, and development sectors. Despite the noble missions of these organizations, many have been found to harbor toxic and racist cultures that harm the communities they aim to serve. Why has it taken so long for these issues to come to light? Why …
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Did you ever read about families with two moms at school? Were you ever taught what it means to love anyone regardless of their gender? Pride and Less Prejudice is an organisation on a mission to bring LGBTQI+ representation and more inclusive conversations to schools and children in the US. We chat to founder, Lisa Forman (she/her) and Outreach Co…
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It's our 50th episode! And if you have joined the journey so far, you'll know Teia and Lauren like to talk about power and feminist ways of working. This time they're talking about feminist policies. All this policy and feminism talk can seem pretty comforting at first, but Lauren and Teia ask; What are they? Why does Sweden have one? Who else has …
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Welcome to our 49th episode, where we dive into the latest happenings at the World Economic Forum. But wait, what's this? We've got a surprise guest joining us today... none other than ChatGPT, the AI language model extraordinaire! We start off discussing the usual topics like global trade and economic inequality, but things take a turn when Jake a…
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Language is power. Words matter. Especially when we are trying to be inclusive. The sector is pushing towards being more inclusive but it's hard to know the measure of success. How do we know when we are getting it right and when we are getting it wrong? To help us answer this, we asked Ettie Bailey-King to join us in the van! From LiveAid to the r…
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Lauren and Teia struggled to find information or lessons on what it is really like to be a consultant and manage clients. And so, in this third and final installment on consultancies, Lauren and Teia TELL ALL on: Coming back to your values Project management Managing your time (and learning how to be realistic with the time you have!) And MORE HOT …
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Lauren and Teia continue the discussion on consultancies and what it is like to be a consultant. Enjoy even MORE tips and tricks on: How to plan ahead Efficient ways of working Rates for paying sub-contractors or other researchers Flexible healthy boundaries (TM)! Managing clients, who is managing who!? Everything discussed is anchored in JRNY valu…
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Lauren and Teia started a consultancy company - JRNY Consulting (Hot plug!). To celebrate, they are sharing what it was like taking that giant leap into the consultancy space. They discuss: Why they transitioned to becoming independent consultants How they got started What they learned How much you can influence client organisations What didn't wor…
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Lauren and Teia decided to make Glassdoor a regular feature. After all, it's one of our only reference points when we want to understand people's experiences of working for an organisation. Glassdoor is a website that allows anyone to publicly review organisations they work for or have worked for in the past. Teia and Lauren share some shocking rev…
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The non-profit sector has not been very good at ethical data collection, especially when it comes to being reflexive. How do we, as researchers, interviewers, and evaluators from the 'Global North', reflect on our power and the relational/colonial histories that influence the data we collect and the questions we ask? Lauren and Teia dive into types…
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We told you we were starting a podcast about how the non-profit sector needs to transform. When actually, here we are talking about the Men's Football World Cup! Did we leave our morals and values at the door? Is this just another tenuous link? Well, the Men's Football World Cup has reminded us that there are nations with complex histories, colonia…
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COP27 - is the 27th United Nations Climate Change Conference 2022 in Egypt. Everyone is talking about it. And we are getting cranky about it. Want more? Get Premium Content on Patreon. Follow us: Instagram: @jrnypodcast Twitter: @jrnypodcast Edited by Teia Rogers Get Premium Content on Patreon Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more informa…
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Lauren and Teia have been having challenging conversations about the non-profit system and all its flaws. Now, it's time to put those challenges to Vu Le - author of the well-known blog NonprofitAF. Do consultants really have that much power? What about if white people bite back - aka 'whitelash'? How can multiple Executive Directors work together …
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Humanitarian reform, here we go again!? Remember the Grand Bargain or the Charter for Change? Reform is necessary to improve our work, but how do we know it worked? What have we learned from past reform successes and failures? Now we have the 'Pledge for Change 2030', led by a Somalia organisation, Adeso; some of the world's biggest aid and develop…
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Space invaders, manspreading, and side-eyes When you become attuned to the racism, power, and privilege around you, it's impossible to turn it off. For Teia, and people of colour everywhere that is part of daily life. Lauren and Teia talk about how this is showing up in the most unexpected places. Things we mentioned: Organisation and event space: …
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To Martha Awojbi, dismantling the imperialist, white supremacist, capitalist, cis heteropatriarchy is the only thing that matters. From being held by Maya Angelou to street fundraising to anti-racism training Martha takes no bullshit in the sector. We try and understand why the non-profit sector is stuck behind a wall of buzzwords and fails to get …
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Ever been the victim of unwanted humanitarian intervention? Teia talks us through an unwanted intervention and some pretty huge assumptions that were made about her needs! This leads Lauren and Teia into a well-timed tenuous link; let's talk needs assessments! Non-profit organisations carry out assessments at the beginning of projects to determine …
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Lauren and Teia still have questions about all these buzzwords; intersectionality, decolonisation, anti-racism and feminist approaches. What do they actually mean? We are joined by Sanjukta Moorthy to help us understand what we are really saying when we throw out a bunch of 'in-vogue' buzzwords. Sanjukta is a planning, monitoring, evaluation, and l…
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Ever find yourself in a difficult situation with your manager? Or perhaps you are wondering how others are dealing with non-profit dysfunctions? Lauren and Teia take a look at "Ask a Manager". Ask a Manager is a website that allows anyone to email questions and issues they might have with a manager or organisation. They are then answered by a manag…
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Time for a recap, where are we on this journey to transformation? Pause and reflect with Lauren and Teia as they recap on over 30 episodes! We reflect on increased attunement and feeling braver, the human element, negative sides of transformation, inspirational episodes, what conversations aren't finished, who else we'd like to talk to and MUCH MOR…
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We talk about SEX and the R WORD. Yes, it is EXACTLY what you were not thinking. We are joined by the fabulous Lana Woolf, Co-founder and Director of Edge Effect, an organisation that assists humanitarian and development organisations to work in genuine partnerships with sexual and gender minorities or LGBTIQ+ people. Lana's passion for her work ec…
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Lauren is on a lifelong journey to understanding racism and her own role in causing harm. From swimming to festivals, examples of racism, misogyny, and exclusion are everywhere. All this attunement has left Lauren with some questions. Who better to ask, than Teia!? This episode asks questions like, how do you call out racism in a meeting room? What…
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'Let go or be dragged' is a Zen proverb meaning to let go of repeated cycles that make us miserable. Sabrina Joy Stevens helps us do just that. She masterfully takes ethical storytelling, misinformation, disinformation, and co-liberation, turns it all on its head, and adds JOY. That’s right, we came away from this one feeling HOPEFUL! And for Teia,…
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Leadership in non-profit organisations and across the humanitarian and development sector is often under scrutiny. Leaders are required to create a shared vision across dispersed individuals against the backdrop of complex humanitarian and development contexts. It is not easy. But could there be a new angle of introspection to learn what promising …
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Lauren and Teia can't stop talking about the Whistleblower: Inside the United Nations documentary and what better way to continue the conversation than with someone who was in it and knows the United Nations well? We talk to Purna Sen, a good trouble-maker and the ex-Executive Coordinator and spokesperson for addressing harassment and other forms o…
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