Scale and grow your agency with better clients, invested employees, and a stronger bottom line, with Drew McLellan.
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EP 425: The agency owner’s game plan for 2024 with Drew McLellan
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2023 is quickly coming to a close, so it’s time for agency owners to start thinking about the year ahead to come up with their 2024 game plan. With holiday hibernation quickly approaching for most agency owners, this is the perfect time to reflect on 2023 and start thinking about what we want to improve for 2024. Many of us are coming out of a less…
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EP 424:The key to winning over right-fit clients in any economy with Jason Swenk
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Finding right-fit clients, especially in a slow economy, is always a frustrating task. For the past year or so, agency owners have been expressing more and more frustrations over finding and keeping good clients at the right price point. In this episode, Jason Swenk shares some tips and tricks about what he sees agencies doing right when it comes t…
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EP 423: How to ask like an auctioneer when making negotiations with Dia Bondi
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We’ve all lowballed ourselves when going into negotiations. Whether it was for a raise, a proposal to a new client, a request to be a keynote speaker or a promotion, we’ve probably left opportunity on the table without even realizing it. The good news is that it’s extremely common, so you’re not alone. But the bad news is that you could probably be…
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EP 422: Optimizing agency operations with 90-minute business ‘sabbaticals’ with Alyson Caffrey
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Usually, a sabbatical is for people who need time to rest and recharge. But did you know that sabbaticals are important for your agency operations, too? This week, we’re taking a different approach to the ongoing conversation we’ve been having about systems and processes, agency operations, and ways to optimize your business growth. From Alyson Caf…
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EP 421: Improving systems and processes to complete projects in 2 weeks with Michelle LaBrosse
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Productivity means profitability. One of the key ways to boost your productivity is to hone in on your systems and processes to get things done faster and more efficiently without bottlenecking your creative process. This week, we’re chatting with Michelle LaBrosse, a systems and processes expert, about how agency owners, teams, and even clients ca…
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EP 420: Setting realistic budget and growth goals for 2024 with Drew McLellan
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Many agency owners want to see 20% growth (or more) year over year while staying profitable. This goal isn’t entirely unrealistic, but the bigger you get, the harder it is to maintain such impressive numbers if you’re not investing resources in the right things to support that growth. For this week’s solocast, I have some homework for you to do to …
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EP 419: Decoupling from the day-to-day grind as an agency owner with Lien De Pau
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One of the most common questions we still receive is about how to decouple yourself from the day-to-day grind of agency life and finally get to focus on being an agency owner. Many of us became accidental entrepreneurs and owners, and now that we have teams to lead, it can be hard to stop doing the old work that got us started on this journey. This…
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EP 418: Redesigning agency culture in a new remote and hybrid world with Gustavo Razzetti
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Shifting agency culture has been a huge point of contention for many agency owners since the beginning of the pandemic. For some, it’s brought a lot of challenges in understanding how we can work as a team while being scattered around, while others have embraced the changes and have tried to adapt the best they can. However, it can still be challen…
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EP 417: The art of perfecting presentations for agency employees with Michael Weiss
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No matter how experienced you are, everyone gets nervous before getting up in front of a room full of people to speak. The adrenaline starts pumping, and you start doubting yourself and your ideas a little bit. It’s a universal experience we’ve all felt at least once in our lives. Michael Weiss is here to teach us that giving presentations doesn’t …
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EP 416: Teaching AEs how to grow your existing client base with Mark Riggs
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With new client acquisition at an all-time low, it’s more important than ever to focus on growing your existing client base. In fact, 60 to 70 percent of your net new revenue should now come from existing clients to continue being profitable. This means it’s time to teach your AE’s how crucial it is to know how to navigate agency math, foster agenc…
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EP 415: Getting the most out of an M&A as a buyer or seller with Drew and Danyel McLellan
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There’s more M&A activity amongst agencies than ever before. As agency owners get older and running the business becomes more stressful, many owners are running out of gas and looking for a reset. This means there has never been a more perfect time if you’re looking to buy an agency. And if you’re looking to sell, it might go faster than you antici…
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EP 414: 9 traits that will make your agency known for its best-of-class service with Susan Quinn
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Does your agency have what it takes to provide best-in-class service to your clients? According to Susan Quinn’s research, there are 9 traits that an agency should have in order to get there. It’s not always about being the fastest or having the best prices. In fact, it’s almost never about price when you’re providing top-notch service. What it ult…
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EP 413: The “why” mindset strategy for better agency communication with Linda Perry
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Do you know the “why” behind the work you do? If not, it might be time to find out. Understanding the motivation behind why we show up and feel connected to our work is key to personal happiness and effective interpersonal communication. As it turns out, there are nine “whys” that we could categorize ourselves into that affect agency communication …
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EP 412: Speed is the fast pass to client happiness with Jay Baer
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When you think about how you do business, do you find that you’re purposefully taking longer to respond to inquiries because you don’t want a client to believe you’re not busy enough? Or do you hesitate to answer right away because you don’t want that to be their new expectation of your agency? Unfortunately, this is where many agencies get it back…
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EP 411: Knowing when it’s time to bring a COO onto the leadership team with Carolyn Lodge
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As your agency grows, your leadership team must grow alongside it. You’ll notice as your team gets bigger, the day-to-day operations become more complicated, and you might want to start taking a step back from certain tasks altogether. That’s where a COO comes in to save the day. A successful, growing agency must have someone to handle day-to-day o…
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EP 409: The how-to guide for getting started in thought leadership and public speaking with Katy Boos
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One of the most powerful new business tools to establish credibility as an agency is right at our fingertips. Finding speaking opportunities at conferences, trade shows, and even as a podcast guest is a great first step to entering the world of thought leadership. While it may seem daunting initially, especially if you’re new to this, thought leade…
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EP 410: Tracking metrics to boost biz dev and client satisfaction with Drew McLellan
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Lately, agency owners and leaders have been hitting their heads against a biz dev brick wall. With increased sales cycles, difficulty getting clients to start projects, tightened budgets, and more, it seems like we’re in a cycle of never-ending struggle. Even if the future looks bleak, there are always more things that can be done and new strategie…
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EP 408: The power of in-person networking and client-agency relationships with Hank Blank
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In-person networking and relationship building are not dead. For agencies, it remains one of the most important methods of building your client base. And unfortunately, odds are you’re not doing it enough. Showing up is a huge part of the biz dev battle that a Zoom call or Slack channel just can’t fix. And in a time when many of us have to rely on …
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EP 407: Facilitating change and navigating change fatigue with agency employees with Jenny Magic
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The workforce has changed forever, which has brought change fatigue along with it. This means how we navigate problem-solving and facilitate change amongst our teams has to change, too. This week, I’m chatting with Jenny Magic, an expert in all things change and team morale. For almost 20 years, she’s been working with agency leaders and their team…
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EP 406: The peaks and pitfalls of AI innovation with Paul Roetzer
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AI has been at the top of everyone’s minds this year, particularly with the birth of ChatGPT in November 2022. We’re currently in a renaissance where AI innovation and creativity are fusing to push the limits of what we ever thought was previously possible. With these new AI tools comes a lot to look forward to, but also a lot of fear and uncertain…
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EP 405: The four pillars of healthy agency culture with Drew McLellan
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The idea of agency culture has been on my mind a lot lately, especially now that we’re all settling into new post-covid workplace structures. Without as much face time in an office, many of you are starting to wonder how to continue cultivating a healthy workplace environment for your employees over video calls and Slack channels. For this week’s s…
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EP 404: Weaving values, missions, and goals into agency culture with Chad Kearns
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Agency culture has encountered a massive shift post-pandemic. With hybrid and remote work more common than ever, weaving our missions, goals, values, and purpose into our teams requires a different approach than before. This week, we’re talking to Chad Kearns, an agency culture expert, to discuss how agency leaders are at the forefront of agency cu…
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EP 403: Calculating lifetime customer value using data-driven metrics with Valentin Radu
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With the elongated sales cycles we have all seen throughout 2023, knowing your lifetime customer value is more important than ever. It’s essential not only for you as an agency but also to calculate that data for your clients. Clients are looking for the most value for their money, and everyone is tightening their belts. Gone are the days of patien…
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EP 402: The ROI of making your existing clients happier with Susan Baier
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It’s that time of year again — we’re evaluating the 2023 Agency Edge Research study, where we polled people who hire agencies about what they expect from agencies and what gets them to open their wallets for us. Despite a challenging year of having to find creative ways to get existing clients to spend more money with us, a lot of good news came ou…
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EP 401: Weaving creative innovation into agency best practices with Carla Johnson
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Part of being an agency means that you solve problems for a living. Clients come to you with a problem, and it’s up to you and your team to figure out the solution and present it to them in a neat package. Simply put, creative innovation is woven into the DNA of an agency. Under pressure and deadlines, creative innovation can quickly be squashed, r…
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