Clovers, Happy Sunday! Welcome back to our discussion of The Black Bird Oracle. We made it to Venice (what), used Ysabeau as a distraction (smart), and conducted a teensy witch heist (wait, again?), but we still haven't quite met the antagonist for this book... or have we? In this episode, we're talking about Diana's character arc (...flatter than …

Clovers, We have made it to part 3, or should we say book 3(?) of The Black Bird Oracle by Deborah Harkness. Things are happening fast and we have a plot to finish. Join us as we discuss family trauma, descriptions of teaching magic, use of kids in stories, favorite theories from the trilogy, and Diana's emotional intelligence (or lack thereof). xo…

Happy Sunday(?) Covers! In this episode we are discussing Ch. 19-20 of The Black Bird Oracle by Deborah Harkness. There is tea aplenty. It is hot. It is also spicy. We are suddenly serving up some Bishop family secrets with a heavy dollop of trauma. But what else is new at the Bishop house? We are reeling, but so is Diana. How did we get here? We d…

Clovers, Hi, hi. Happy 2025. January is always a bit of an odd, dark time -- we're in a slow season and everything is a little... off. You know, like perhaps the forest behind your family homestead puts off hallucinogenic fumes that take you on a sensual journey full of insects. We're getting ahead of ourselves. In this episode, we're talking about…

In this episode, we are discussing chapters 15&16 of The Black Bird Oracle by Deborah Harkness. Honestly, we are feeling a bit unmoored by the middle of this book. In the first chapter up for discussion we're in a mystical battle, and in the next chapter we're getting ready for a garden party. Does anyone else have whiplash?…

In this episode, Cait and Jen discuss chapters 13 and 14 of The Black Bird Oracle by Deborah Harkness. We've quickly gotten over the romp in the woods. We get an official tour of the grounds. We gather ghosts. Matthew and Diana still aren't on the same communication page. We might be having a potluck. Is anyone worried about Tamsy the doll?…

Happy er, Monday, Clovers. In this episode, we're tackling Chapters 9 and 10 of The Black Bird Oracle, which combines the witch version of a courtroom procedural with ancient mythology. We're talking about allegory, long-term relationships, continuity, structure, and more -- including whether we're setting up for another trilogy -- and we're deligh…

In this episode we are discussing chapters 7 and 8 of The Black Bird Oracle by Deborah Harkness. An episode so nice that we had to do it twice. Yes, the pod calamities do persist, but we're still here. This week we're chatting about magical power point, wands?, more Stephen, our Matthew arrival countdown, oracles, cards, and more. I left in all the…

Oh, Clovers. Have you ever had a month (ish) where nothing went your way? Where everything went a bit to a hell and sideways and pear-shaped and you just couldn't get your feet under you? That was, in effect, the last five (ish) weeks at C&C. Between work emergencies, sickness, power outages, internet crises, and the like, it took us eons to record…

You guys. It's been two years, but with the publication of The Black Bird Oracle, we could not resist coming back. In this episode, we're catching up and finding our stride again as we cover Chapters 1-2 of Deborah Harkness's TBBO. We missed this, and we missed you. Looking forward to this next step into the universe of All Souls!…

Dearest Clovers, Today is a bittersweet day. In this episode, we're announcing our hiatus from podcasting. Both of us are about to embark upon major life changes and, 120 episodes and five years later, we think it's appropriate to give C&C an intermission. We hope to answer your questions in the episode, but here's a summary: we're planning a possi…

Happy Sunday Clovers! Well, well, well, here we are with our penultimate discussion of A Discovery of Witches and the All Souls Universe. It's been quite the journey. We have so loved discussing this TV show with you all, and we know that it will continue to provide joy and delight for many years of re-watches to come. In this episode we're back on…

We are so pleased to be here to begin our discussion of the entirety of the TV series A Discovery of Witches. The moment when we saw the series premiere of the series at All Souls Con in 2018 seems both past and present as we end this television journey. Surely some of you can relate to this feeling. For this episode we are discussing characters an…

This week, we're bringing you our seventh (!?) plot discussion episode covering Season 3 of A Discovery of Witches TV. We're doing a deep dive on the plot highlights of S3 and whether (or not) they follow a structure we've ever seen before. If you have feedback, questions, or comments, make sure you send your thoughts to chamomileandclovecast@gmail…

Happy Sunday, Clovers! Sorry for the brief delay in getting you this episode -- sometimes the external world plays tricks with our recording and editing schedule. Nonetheless -- we're bringing you our first wrap episode for S3 of A Discovery of Witches TV. In today's episode, we're talking about character arcs -- what makes a good arc, what makes a…

Clovers, Somehow, impossibly, we've made it here - to the finale of the adaptation of A Discovery of Witches. It's bittersweet -- we're glad to see the Bishop-Clairmont scion get their happy ending, but it's hard to close the curtain on this wonderful production and its cast and crew. In this episode, we're talking about closure -- where we found i…

Happiest equinox, Clovers! We hope that there are glimmers of spring (or fall) wherever you are and that today finds you safe, well, and full of joy. So, HOLY ADAPTATION, BATMAN. We're delighted to talk today about the smart, courageous, and very satisfying changes the writers' room made for this episode and what that means for the end of our serie…

Happiest Sunday, Clovers. We're nearing the end of our coverage of A Discovery of Witches TV and this episode makes it clear that we're getting ready to tie up the plot and say our goodbyes. There's a lot to love here, but we're also facing the consequences of our limited time with our favorite characters and the adaptive choices we've made along t…

Wow. As of yesterday, we've reached the finale of A Discovery of Witches TV -- it's an incredible accomplishment for the cast, the crew, the producers, and the fandom. We're sad that we won't have any more episodes to look forward to, but we're going to prolong the fun for as long as we can. In this episode, we're talking about the adaptive choices…

Happy Sunday, Clovers. We hope that February is treating you well and that you're delighting in S3 of A Discovery of Witches TV as much as we are. In this episode, we're traveling to New Orleans to reckon with Matthew's past and the remainder of Marcus's family. Meanwhile, Diana and Phoebe are hot on the trail of the Book of Life and Gallowglass an…

Thank you so much for joining us for this extended episode of our A Discovery of Witches TV season 3 coverage. We love episode 2 of season 3, mostly because of Jack and Father Hubbard. At the beginning of this episode we also take a deep dive into ableism, sanism, and disability in order to tie into our blood rage discussion here in season 3. Enjoy…

The moment we've waited for is finally here! It's premiere day for Season 3 of A Discovery of Witches TV on Sundance Now, Shudder, and AMC+. It's been a long wait, but we think the end result is glorious -- a fitting and beautiful start to our final season. In this episode, we're talking about all of the important things -- modern Gallowglass (rawr…

Clovers, Clovers. Somehow, we made it to 2022. It's been a long haul, but we're glad to have you here with us for another year of All Souls fandom. Today, we're spending some time spinning tracks for the one and only Gallowglass -- the wanderer, the guardian, the Scots-inflected, motorcycle-riding, sea shanty-singing, shaggy bear of our hearts. You…

Happiest Sunday, wherever you are. We apologize for the minor service interruption -- our day jobs got in the way of us putting out an episode last week, but we're trying to make up for it by delivering big on The Book of Life Playlist. There's giggling, ghosts, and Switchfoot, which feels like par for the course. Deb's playlist for The Book of Lif…

We're here to toot our own horn *just a little* and say that our combined Matthew Clairmont playlist is most excellent. We've taken the killer beginnings of Deb's original and added some riffs and I don't think you'll be disappointed. There's some big feelings, some melancholy moods, some redemption, some emo -- a glorious range for a complicated m…

Clovers, As if we haven't discussed Shadow of Night to pieces... we're back! We're talking atmospheric witchiness, soulful ballads, and the oddball genius of Tori Amos. Deb's Shadow of Night playlist is on Spotify. Ours is available on Spotify and YouTube. We're having a grand time talking about these playlists and can't wait to dive into the Matth…

Happy Halloween, darling Clovers! We're so excited to bring you the second installment of our tour of Deb's All Souls playlists. Today, we're exploring the music of the many musical sides of Diana Bishop -- the magical, the righteous, the sexy, and everything in between. We've had so much fun -- we hope you're enjoying it, too. Deb's playlist for D…

Dearest, most darling Clovers: We're back to our (mostly) regular programming with something new and hopefully fun. We've decided to use the time between TV seasons to play around in the extraordinary playlists that Deb compiled to go along with the All Souls Trilogy. Accordingly, this episode is all about the playlist for A Discovery of Witches, w…

Clovers. It's been a minute. This was not our plan. As you might have noticed, we've been on a bit of a publishing hiatus -- we were plagued by technical difficulties that caused us to lose not one, not two, but nearly THREE FULLY RECORDED EPISODES. Accordingly, if anyone has seen us in the past few weeks, we've looked a bit like the dog in the fie…

Dearest and most darling Clovers, it's a big day. Today, we're releasing Episode 100 of Chamomile & Clove -- a milestone we never dreamed of reaching. It's only fitting that we should published Episode 100 while talking about Episode 2x10 of A Discovery of Witches TV, a fitting end to a tremendous season of television. In today's episode, we're tal…

Happiest Sunday! We're inching our way towards the end of Season 2 of A Discovery of Witches TV and our SUPER EXCITING (and still secret) wrap episodes. We can't wait to share them with you in a few weeks and hope you're enjoying our, er, extended take on this incredible season of television. In this episode, we're talking about How To End A Season…

We are rocketing towards the end of the season now! Join us as we discuss several different crises: identity politics with Marcus, relationship drama with the Aunties, Baldwin's character, and an assault on baby Margaret. A Discovery of Witches TV Season 2 Ep 8.

We're back with our discussion of A Discovery of Witches TV 2x07 and it's rather fun, if we do say so ourselves. In this episode, we're talking about smart adaptation choices, killer costumes, Hapsburg creeps, and how mad we are at the Bosch tease (GIVE US OUR TRIPTYCH, THX). Oh, also: consider this your vaguely inappropriate pun warning. Follow us…

Hello dear listeners! No, your podcast feed is not broken, we decided to give you this interview with Adam Sklar earlier than anticipated and just keep the original episode number. We had such a lovely time talking with Adam about A Discovery of Witches TV, his character (Henry Percy), video games, movies, deaf culture, accessibility, representatio…

Happy first Sunday of spring, Clovers! A Discovery of Witches TV Season 2 may be finished airing in the US, Canada, and the UK, but we're not done talking about it by a long shot. We've still got four episodes to go! Today, we're talking about the heartbreaking masterpiece that is Episode 2x06. We've got to talk about fathers and sons, boots on boo…

Who's the luckiest? We're the luckiest. Please enjoy our conversation with the delightful ADOWTV Executive Producer Lachlan MacKinnon as we talk about S2, adaptation, and the production team's goals for S3 of A Discovery of Witches TV. Follow us on Twitter as @chamomilenclove for details and updates. For between episodes fun and news, please follow…

Do you hear squealing? That's Cait catapulting into the stratosphere with joy over James Purefoy's portrayal of Philippe. In this episode, we're talking about fathers and sons, the differences between Book Diana and Show Diana, the power of Matthew's grief, and how to built a strong relationship on the foundation of ONE VERY LARGE LIE. Follow us on…

We hope that you're well, safe, and secure this morning -- it's frigid at C&C HQ-East and not likely to warm up for a few more weeks. We're eagerly awaiting the equinox and the first of the snowdrops and crocus, just like everyone else. In today's episode, we're diving in to Episode 2x04 of A Discovery of Witches TV -- we're talking about dating, p…

Happiest Sunday, Clovers and friends. In today's episode, we're covering the third installment of Season 2 of A Discovery of Witches TV. We're meeting new characters, wearing fabulous clothes, flirting with danger and betrayal, and continuing to make EXCEEDINGLY SMART adaptation choices and absurd puns. If you're catching this on release day, be su…

Happiest Sunday, Clovers! We hope you're well and safe and enjoying the waning days of January 2021. Today, we're thrilled to discuss Season 2, Episode 2 of A Discovery of Witches TV -- the gorgeous sets and costumes, the smart plot and character choices, the power of strong adaptation, and the delicious appearance of Matthew Roydon's earring. If y…

With great celebration and joy and fanfare, the day we've waited for is finally (FINALLY) here! In this episode, we're discussing the breathtakingly beautiful, dramatic, moody premiere of A Discovery of Witches TV on Sky, Shudder, AMC Plus, and Sundance Now. Today is the day when we can finally gush--in extraordinary detail--about costumes and sets…

Hello, dearest Clovers. Happy Sunday! It's time for our final Time's Convert wrap episode -- the one with the plot and the polls and the listener feedback and the discussion about what story this book is actually telling. No slides this time, but we think you'll understand why as you listen. Thank you to all of you who wrote in, who commented on Fa…

It has been a while but we are BACK! Please join us for our first book wrap discussion of Time's Convert. We're talking characters, antagonists and protagonists, themes, and narration.

The sun is shining, the air is biting, and Phoebe and Marcus are reunited! In today's episode, we're closing out our chapter discussions for Time's Convert and starting to reflect on the themes of this nuanced, complicated book. That means, of course, that it's time for you to send us your questions, thoughts, comments, etc. for our book discussion…

Hello and happy weekday to you all! In this special extra episode, we are discussing the recently-released trailer for season 2 of A Discovery of Witches the TV show. WE ARE SO EXCITED!

Happiest Sunday, Clovers! We're here to talk about Chapters 30 and 32 of Time's Convert in our SECOND TO LAST chapter episode for the book! In the next episode, we'll join all of the storylines and talk about endings and beginnings and change... it is a book in the All Souls Universe, after all. Today, we're committing crimes against the German lan…

In today's episode, we're deep in the throes of Marcus's youth--and the French Revolution--in Chapters 25-27 of Time's Convert. There's lots of tricky talk about ideals and extremism, mental health, and perspective -- and there are more penis jokes than we remembered. C'est la vie, c'est la révolution. Pour yourself a big cup of Liberté, Égalité, e…

In today's episode, we're covering Chapters 21-22 of Time's Convert -- Marcus's transformation from human to vampire, some thorny issues of transformation and consent, questions and answers, family and rebirth, manners, and an unexpected musical interlude. We're rapidly approaching the 2020 Real-Time Reading of A Discovery of Witches! If you haven'…