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The Trial goes behind the headlines of some of the biggest trials in the world. We take you into the courtroom, bringing you the detail as the evidence unfolds, examining key moments and carrying out exclusive interviews with detectives, victims, and experts. Follow us on X @thetrialpodcast Contact us at thetrial@mailmetromedia.co.uk Leave a comment on Spotify or even send us a voice note on WhatsApp - +447796657512 (start your message with 'Trial') A Daily Mail Production Hosted on Acast. S ...
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Every week, Hailey Elizabeth will dive into the crazy, the creepy, and the unexpected on her new true crime podcast “Behind You”. This is everything you’ve loved about her YouTube true crime series, with even more hair-raising and spine-chilling details than ever before.
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On February 11th, 2023, Brianna Ghey, a 16-year-old girl, was murdered in a premeditated attack by Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Ratcliffe. The trial heard her murderers had a "thirst for killing" and a fascination with violence, torture, and murder. https://peaceandminduk.org/ Sources: BBC A Plan To Kill: The Murder of Brianna Ghey https://en.wikip…
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On this episode we walk you through the unsettling murder of Brianna Ghey—a young life stolen by the hands of hate. We’re not just narrating the somber tale of a teen whose existence was cut short by transphobic violence; we're engaging in a profound discourse on the societal and legal entanglements that continue to challenge the transgender commun…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you more of the tense exchange between Professor Peter Fleming and Tom Little KC. The court has also been told that Constance Marten’s parents did hire private investigators to try to track her down, but they said this was not when she was on the run with baby Victoria. Warning: This podcast references court…
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Launching Friday 19th April, Vogue Williams hosts The Apple and The Tree, a brand new podcast where a parent and their adult child get to ask each other about the parts of their shared history they’ve always wanted to know more about, but never given themselves the time to do so. These are deep, intimate and revealing conversations that move throug…
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Slimming World is the leading diet organisation in the UK. It has 700,000 members and, at a time when obesity is spiralling in the UK, it has helped millions lose weight. It has contracts with the NHS and local government. If you meet the criteria, your doctor can sign you up for free. But could the Slimming World diet be encouraging disordered eat…
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Sam Greenberg grew up in a wealthy family. But although the was very well off himself, he was able to work hard for himself and had secured a job with NBC for 7 years and worked as a journalist for golf.com. And in college is when Sam would meet his future girlfriend and soon to be wife Ellen Greenberg. Ellen was described as the light of every roo…
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Erin Maxwell, age 11, was found hanging by a rope in her Palermo, NY home in 2008. The little girl had slipped through every single crack in the system designed to protect our children. Her older stepbrother, Alan Jones, would be arrested for her murder. A case that shocked the community of Central NY. Sources: https://www.syracuse.com/indepth/2009…
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In January 2016, 21 year-old Narumi Kurosaki, ex-girlfriend of 26 year-old Nicholas Zepta was exchanging messages discussing their relationship. The couple had recently had a messy break up because Narumi Narumi had just gotten accepted into an elite college in France on a scholarship and had to leave Tokyo Japan, where her and Nicholas were living…
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Jodie had everything - a good job, great friends and a busy social life. But her world was turned upside down when she was targeted by an online abuser who posted pornographic deepfakes of her online. Initially turned away by the police, she turned detective herself - but nothing could prepare her for what she eventually discovers. She now struggle…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you a key witness in the defence case of Constance Marten - an expert who investigates the unexpected death of babies. Prof Peter Fleming told the court he thought Constance Marten’s account was ‘extraordinarily consistent’ and cast doubt on how the prosecution say Baby Victoria died. Warning: This podcast r…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the final day of Constance Marten’s evidence from the witness box as she told jurors she had wanted to get an autopsy for her baby in the hope she would find the death wasn’t her fault. The episode also features her claim that she had neglected herself to the point of exhaustion in trying to look after B…
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Alexee Trevizo was an 19 y/o girl from New Mexico and lived with her mom, step dad and sister. Alexee was a senior in HS and was described as sort of an it girl. She was pretty, she was skinny, she was on the schools cheer team and was dating a man name Deyvn that played on the schools football team. Alexee also had tons of friends and seemed well-…
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GET OUT! After the Lutz family moves into 112 Ocean Ave, they start to notice strange things are constantly occurring. Demon pigs, green slime, black sludge, hundreds of flies in the dead of winter! The young family was terrorized by paranormal experiences until they were forced to flee their new home after only 28 days. The "true" story that would…
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As the cost of living crisis continues to increase the strain on families, a record 142,000 children in England are homeless and living in what should be short term temporary accommodation.Children are being consigned to B&Bs and hotels, former office blocks - even shipping containers – some without a bed of their own, living among rats and cockroa…
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The children's book “Are you with me” was a book published on March 7th 2023, written by Kouri Richins. The 42-page book talks to specifically children who have lost loved ones and how to cope with it. Now at first glance, this book looks perfect for children struggling with grief. Kids who experience death should learn how to cope with the pain in…
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In the early morning hours of Nov. 13, 1974, Ronald (Butch) DeFeo Jr. murdered his entire family. The horrific murders of 6 family members as they slept in their Dutch Colonial home at 112 Ocean Avenue would go on to spark a horror movie franchise that would continue to deliver nightmares for decades. Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbCgkS…
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A man says he has a bomb on a commercial aircraft. We have seen it in movies for decades, but where did it all start. We take a deep dive into the lore of DB Cooper and the implementation of the 'DB Cooper device'. We then explore the audacious copycat hijackings, leading to a broader discourse on the evolution of airport security. Intrigue peaks a…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack will bring you the latest from the evidence of Constance Marten, as she defended her decision to take her newborn baby into a tent in the middle of winter - saying that 'Jesus survived in a barn'. The episode will also feature claims that a man Constance Marten said inspired her plan to flee abroad has also used h…
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‘Employee Assistance Programmes’ - almost 25 million workers in the UK have access to one through their employer. They’re designed to help people deal with personal problems that might affect their performance at work by offering advice, support or counselling sessions. But are all providers offering a good service? File on 4 investigates. Reporter…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the latest from the prosecution's cross-examination of Constance Marten, in which she claims her family placed a travel ban on her by telling the court she was having children to sell illegally and that she was addicted to drugs. The episode also features her claims that she was planning to try to find a…
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On January 14th 2014, Nathan Maddox and his wife Crystal Maddox were walking into a Saturday service with Nathans 5 year-old daughter Maddie, at the Mt. Caramel baptist church. This specific day was going to be Nathans last supervised visitation visit with his daughter Maddie. For the past few years there had been a brutal and messy custody battle …
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The Jenny Jones Show was taping an episode titled "Revealing Same Sex Secret Crush" on March 6th, 1995. In typical "ambush tv" fashion, Jonathan Schmitz was surprised to learn that his good friend, Scott Amedure, had a crush on him. 3 days after the taping of the show, Scott Amedure would be murdered in his own home. The case would go on to spark a…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you more from the evidence of Constance Marten as she reveals she and Mark Gordon considered taking their own lives after the death of their baby Victoria in February 2023. The episode also features the start of the cross-examination as the prosecution question Constance Marten’s decision making in the baby’…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you all the latest from the first day of the evidence of Constance Marten in the witness box at the Old Bailey, where she told jurors that she was fleeing from her family as well as social services when she went on the run with Mark Gordon and their newborn baby Victoria - but denied ever carrying her in a b…
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"Maria" ended up in A and E after being assaulted by her 11-year-old child. There’s nothing unusual about children being rude or sometimes abusive to their parents, particularly when they’re adolescents. But some parents are attacked and abused by their children on a regular basis. It’s a pattern of behaviour that can begin as young as three years …
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Oujia boards over the years have been very controversial. Some people think its a method to speak to the devil while others feel its a way to connect with ancestors. Back in 1100 AD Oujia board were used in healing practices and rituals until scammers got ahold of the ouija board and started lying to people about what the board was saying. After th…
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At the height of the pandemic, Mary Collins, 20, took an Uber to a friend's apartment thinking she was headed to a "movie marathon girl's night." When Mary never returned home that evening, her family would stop at nothing to find out what really happened to her on the night of March 28, 2020. Sources: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiTSDt7-X9E ht…
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This week we traverse this heartrending terrain, beginning with the case of mommy vlogger Ruby Frankie. Her egregious parenting tactics, which incited widespread fury, raise pivotal questions about the unseen scars inflicted upon children in the name of discipline, and the haunting legacy such actions leave. Caroline and I also confront the grim ta…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the latest evidence from the Old Bailey, where the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon heard from two pathologists about the possible ways in which Baby Victoria died while on the South Downs when the couple were on the run last year. The episode will also feature the poignant moment jurors were al…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the latest from the Old Bailey, where jurors were told about Constance Marten and Mark Gordon’s history with social services and why a family court decided to take their previous four children into care. The episode will also feature the evidence of an expert in paediatric health - who said a newborn bab…
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It’s a scandal that went uncovered for 30 years. Body parts and organs from former workers in the nuclear industry were systematically removed for research. But the families of those former workers were never told. The truth only came to light following a three year inquiry published in 2010. But was this practice contained to one industry, or was …
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Over time, the discussion of nature vs nurture has always been a hefty debate. Nature are things that you are born with, your genes, hereditary. While nurture is your environment and how that shapes you into he person you become. But as for Sean Vincent Gilles, he believes he was born to be a murderer. Ever since he was a young toddler he had urges…
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In May of 2014, two pre-teen girls plot to brutally murder their best friend in an attempt to appease the fictional character Slender Man. The girls become convinced that they had to murder Payton (Bella) Leutner in order to save their families. Sources: Slenderman by Kathleen Hale main source https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lXsB5lLgeH8 https://www…
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This week we tread carefully into sensitive territory, with a content warning for discussions on rape and sexual assault, as we scrutinize the shocking actions of Danny Masterson. Known for his role on "That '70s Show," Masterson's conviction and the bravery of the two victims who brought him to Justus. Shifting the lens to celebrity crime, we grap…
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In this episode Caroline and Jack have the interview Mark Gordon gave to the detectives investigating the case. He tells them the couple discussed giving the baby up, but the following morning she had died, and even though he tried to give her CPR, it didn’t work. He told them when Victoria died it was every parents worst dread. We’ll also bring yo…
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In this episode Caroline and Jack bring the full police interviews with Constance Marten which took place after the body of Victoria had been found. Constance Marten told detectives the couple were portrayed as villains when they were on the run, and she said the media storm made her too afraid to hand herself in. After Victoria died she said she w…
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On Febuary 11th, 2023, two teens were seen waiting at a bus stop in the town Birchwood, northwest of England waiting for their friend to get off the next bus. Awhile later, a teenage girl gets off the bus and joins the two teen and the three of them starting heading off to a hiking trial at a nearby park. An hour later emergency services would be c…
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The case of Carla Foster made headlines last year after the mother-of-three was initially sentenced to two years in prison for taking abortion pills after the legal cut-off. Since then, several other women have appeared in English courts accused of having illegal abortions, with increasing numbers of women under police investigation. Reporter Divya…
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40 years ago, Jody Plauche was kidnapped by his karate teacher, Jeff Doucet. When Doucet was finally apprehended by police, Jody's father would have his revenge. On March 16, 1984, Gary Plauche shot and killed his son's kidnapper in front of a local news crew. As officers took Gary into custody, they asked "Why, Gary, Why?!" He simply responded, "I…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack will bring you the latest from the Old Bailey, where the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon heard about the moment police finally found the body of Baby Victoria in a shed in March 2023, nearly two months after the couple allegedly went on the run with her. The episode will also feature details of their pol…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the latest from the Old Bailey, where the trial of Constance Marten and Mark Gordon was dramatically halted last week after an explosion under the court. The episode will also feature evidence about the final days the couple spent on the run, when they appeared to scavenge in bins for food, as well as th…
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Dumpster diving over the years has gained more and more popularity, and for those who dont know, Dumpster diving is when after hours, people will go into the dumpsters of large corporations and stores to try and get items that the store had thrown away. And a lot of people will find, apple electronics, thousands of dollars worth of clothes, unused …
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Love is in the air this Valentine's Day! This week Residue explores why some women fall in love with serial killers. Richard Ramirez, Ted Bundy, and The Hillside Stranglers were all married while incarcerated for heinous crimes. What drove these women to commit to these heartless, evil men? Edited by: Chrissy Champagne Sources: ://en.wikipedia.org/…
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Have you ever felt a shiver down your spine while walking to your car in a deserted parking lot? That ripple of fear isn't unfounded, as Caroline and I explore the unsettling truth behind women's safety in these common yet potentially perilous spaces. We take you through the heart-wrenching abductions of Kelsey Smith and Mercedes Vega, whose storie…
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In this special extended episode Caroline and Liz speak to Esther Ghey, the mother of Brianna. In her first in depth audio interview, Esther tells them about the moment she learned her daughter had been murdered, how she has coped with the past 12 months and how she plans to mark the anniversary of Brianna’s death on Sunday. She also speaks passion…
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In this episode, Caroline and Jack bring you the dramatic bodycam footage of the moment Constance Marten and Mark Gordon are finally arrested after weeks on the run. In the footage both are asked repeatedly where the baby is, but neither give an answer. The episode also outlines the evidence from a woman who says she was awoken on two consecutive n…
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On April 22nd, 2022 north of Manchester live 33 year-old Katie Kenyon with her 2 kids. Katie was described as kind and hardworking and would do anything for her kids. But although Katie put on a happy face for everyone she was struggling with her boyfriend at the time with 51 year-old Andrew Burfield. Andrew was said to be abusive to Katie and woul…
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The bravery of two young girls who faced life-threatening dangers and their incredible rescues are the heart-pounding narratives we share in a chapter you won't forget. From the streets of Long Beach to the quiet town of Mount Vernon, these stories of survival remind us of the power of community awareness and the ever-important role of the National…
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On April 9th, 2004, McDonald's restaurant manager, Donna Summers, answered a phone call that would change the course of numerous lives. A man identifying himself as a police officer informed Donna that her young employee, Louise Ogborn, was suspected of theft. The events that occurred that night in that Kentucky fast food restaurant would shock the…
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In this episode Caroline and Liz talk to Dr Carol Stott, an expert in autism, to try and answer some of your questions about the role the condition played in the trial. They bring you a longer interview with criminologist Prof David Wilson, who offers his insight into what drove Scarlett Jenkinson and Eddie Ratcliffe to kill Brianna. And they also …
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