This podcast is about a young boy named Jack who with his friends plan to stop their principal Mr. Hue.
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Join Bryce Blankenagel and Shannon Grover as we walk through deep Mormon doctrine and history, headlines in and out of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (Mormonism), and explore the lighter side of current events. We hope to provide good feels and a burning in your bosom that'll leave you wanting to download the next episode.
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Talking to Cool People is an interview show where Jason, you guessed it, talks to cool people! His belief is that everyone is cool and everyone has a fascinating story to tell. With guests ranging from CEOs to college students, from Navy Seals to therapists, from authors to musicians, and everything in between, you never know where the conversations are going to go and what you'll learn. New episodes drop on Wednesday mornings.
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Ep 158 — What Makes a Genius? | Approaching Zion pt. 6
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The weirdest chapter in Approaching Zion makes for a kinda’ weird A segment about intelligence and genius. We talk about the history of ranking intelligence and its influence on eugenics before discussing more modern conceptions of intelligence and genius from a nature AND nurture perspective. Then we get into Hugh Nibley’s eulogy of Donald Decker.…
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Bryce Wuori - Co-founder and CEO of Pavewise
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Send us a Text Message. Jason and Bryce talk about Bryce's pivot from a traditional family owned business to a software company, the opportunities and perils of running the company in a slow moving industry and why it's important to never accept the status quo. "I've always been the type of person wired to, when I see a problem, I want to find a so…
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Yes, it’s time to dissect this horrific document telegraphing the downfall of American democracy. We examine bits and pieces to see what the cabal of Christian nationalists want to turn the nation into over the next conservative presidency. Then we chat about the Mike Judge movie Idiocracy and it’s prophetic warnings. We wrap with happy news about …
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Manali Yavatkar - Founder and CEO of Palm Labs
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Send us a Text Message. My guest this week is Manali Yavatkar founder and CEO of Palm, a company revolutionizing how we handle food waste at home. We chat about sustainability, Manali's journey from tech engineer to founder and the challenges associated with starting a business, no matter the industry. "We're not just designing products; we're crea…
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Leslie Danford - Founder and CEO of Vitaminis
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Send us a Text Message. Leslie Danford, founder of Vitaminis, shares her entrepreneurial journey from working in corporate environments to launching her own wellness company during a global pandemic. Leslie discusses the challenges of creating a health-focused business, balancing family life, and the insights gained from her experience in the consu…
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Ep 156 — Sunstone Wrap-up & Patreon Changes
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Just that! We talk Sunstone because it’s the best Mormon Con around and we want to spread the good word! We discuss a few of our favorite sessions, some fascinating things we learned, and how Sunstone recharges our batteries in the Mormon studies space. Then we talk about Lego helping PTSD sufferers. We wrap with a brief chat about some changes we’…
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Ep 155 — Free/Moral Agency; Ernest L. Wilkinson | Last Temptation of Christ
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We do a quick dive into moral agency and free agency in Mormon culture. Leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints have recently changed the definition of agency to suit their totalitarian needs. We explore the evolution of the phrase ‘free agency’ into ‘moral agency’ and springboard into a discussion about Ernest L. Wilkinson, the …
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Ep 154 — Diogenes and Nibley | Approaching Zion pt. 5
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Since this is another Huge Niblet episode, we decided to talk a little bit about philosophy. More importantly, we discuss Diogenes the Cynic and what the philosophical meaning of the word “cynic” is. Then we cover 3 chapters in Approaching Zion, all while keeping the question, “Was Hugh Nibley a modern day cynic?” in mind. Show notes: https://en.wi…
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Ep 153 — Interview with Shelly Johnson of LDL | Closeted by Jonathan Alder
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Happy Pride Month! To celebrate, we interviewed the amazing Shelly Johnson from Latter Day Lesbian podcast. She talked about the balance between navigating tough situations between the church’s control over family and resisting its influence in these family situations. In Media of Great Price, we discuss the book Closeted: My Life As a Gay BYU Stud…
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Ep 152 — Frederick Williams & Law of Consecration | Approaching Zion pt. 4
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Let's talk about the Law of Consecration. First we will start with the background leading into it, as well as what it means and how it’s applied in early magic and occult before Mormonism. Next, we cover two chapters in Approaching Zion by Hugh Nibley that are on, you guessed it, the Law of Consecration. We end with some happy environmental news th…
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Sheila Wilkinson - A Conversation About Expectations
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Send us a Text Message. Sheila is back! Sheila Wilkinson, a seasoned coach, author, and licensed clinical social worker, dives deep into the psychological and social dynamics of expectations. Sheila and Jason unpack the impacts these invisible forces have on our personal and professional lives. "When we expect of others what we expect of ourselves,…
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Ep 151 — The Women’s Room | Everything Everywhere All At Once
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In 1977, a book was published that shocked much of the world. It was an almost instant bestseller and ended up being translated in 20 languages and has sold more than 21 million copies today. The book has been described as one of the most influential novels of the modern feminist movement. The book? The Women’s Room by Marilyn French. We will talk …
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Send us a Text Message. The incredible Thomas Renner joins the show to talk about his journey as a high end fitness and cycling coach to running his own successful coaching practice, his early realization about his sexuality and how that impacted his childhood and the power of community. "I'm a jack of all trades and a master of none, and I used to…
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Jeremy Parker - Founder of Swag.com, Dad, Award Winning Filmmaker
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Send us a Text Message. Jason and Jeremy dive deep into the fascinating journey of Jeremy Parker , the co-founder and former CEO of Swag.com, and now the founder of Swagspace. Jeremy shares his incredible story, from winning a prestigious film festival to pivoting into entrepreneurship, and eventually building a multimillion-dollar business in the …
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Ep 150.2 — Psychedelics in Early Mormonism; Debunking a Mormon Apologist on Mormon Book Reviews pt. 2
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Part 2 of Episode 150! Yay!! And now for something completely different. This episode is a bit of a departure from our regular show. We invite Alex Criddle and Cody Noconi, researchers into the psychedelic origins of Mormonism, to respond to the recent debate on the Mormon Book Reviews channel between ourselves and Mormon apologist, Brian Hales. Br…
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Ep 150.1 — Psychedelics in Early Mormonism; Debunking a Mormon Apologist on Mormon Book Reviews pt. 1
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Part 1 of Episode 150! Yay!! And now for something completely different. This episode is a bit of a departure from our regular show. We invite Alex Criddle and Cody Noconi, researchers into the psychedelic origins of Mormonism, to respond to the recent debate on the Mormon Book Reviews channel between ourselves and Mormon apologist, Brian Hales. Br…
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Ep 149 — Mormon Temples a National Security Risk | Approaching Zion pt. 3
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Every General Conference the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announces new temples. We walk through the history surrounding a few of the worldwide temples, along with some of the subtle international political maneuvers necessary to open the door to a new temple project. Wherever the church wants a temple, leaders must curry the favor o…
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Matt Krayton - Founder and Principal of Publitics
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Send us a Text Message. I sit down with Matt Krayton, founder and principal of Publitics, a leading public relations firm specializing in business, political, and government PR strategy. We explore his remarkable journey from an aspiring high school teacher to a leading political consultant. Discover how the 2008 financial crisis reshaped Matt’s ca…
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Elena Armijo Part 2 - A conversation about inclusivity in the workplace and society
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Send us a Text Message. This is part 2 of a conversation with Elena Armijo, where we dive deep into the often-overlooked impacts of inclusivity and belonging in the workplace and society. "We're not aware of the impact that not being inclusive has for us as a society. " Elena Armijo, Master Certified Coach (MCC), Founder and CEO of The C-Suite Coll…
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Elena Armijo Pt 1 - Founder and CEO of the C Suite Collective, Executive Coach, Certified Dare to Lead™ Facilitator, Dog Mom
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Send us a Text Message. Elena joins the podcast for the first in a two part conversation where she shares her journey from the world of professional opera to coaching and founding her own business. Elena and Jason talk about the power of inclusion and the impact that it has on all of us. "The goal is to see what you in this seat can bring to the ta…
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Ep 148 — Apr 2024 General Conference
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It’s that time of year again. We go through all the talks from #GeneralConference of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints from top to bottom. Show Notes: EntheoMagus Documentary Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0uHmmToTec Documentary screenings: April 27-28, 2024 in Salt Lake City, UT At the Natural Law Apothecary. April 29, 202…
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Amanda Baudier - How to Unlock Joy in Life and Work
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Send us a Text Message. Jason sits down with Amanda Baudier, who journeyed from New York City's nightlife scene to embracing a life centered around mindfulness, health, and well-being. Amanda shares the tale of how a heart condition at 28 became the catalyst for a personal and professional transformation. "It's not just about surviving; it's about …
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Ep 147 — EntheoMagus Documentary (feat. the creators)
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We’re very excited to invite a panel onto the show to discuss the forthcoming documentary about psychedelics in early Mormonism, EntheoMagus! We’re joined by the creators, Brandon Crockett, Cody Noconi, and Alex Criddle, to discuss the documentary, its genesis, and the overall future of the Smith-entheogen theory. Two sets of screenings are coming …
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Send us a Text Message. Jason sits down with Julie Perkins to talk about her journey from being raised in a family owned business to going out on her own, why women need a lot of support when they are starting a business and the health event that changed her outlook on life. "There's only one great way of growing business, and that's your way of gr…
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Ep 146 — D&C Codenames and Secret Combinations | Hot Fuzz
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Scripture study!!! Well, sort of. We’re talking about the codenames contained in the Doctrine & Covenants sections 78, 82, 92, 96, 103, 104, and 105. Names like Gazelam, Ahashdah, Pelagoram, Mahalaleel, Mahemson, Shederlaomach, and (most importantly) Talents, all appear concerning the Secret Combination of the United Firm, or United Order. We discu…
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Mark Atkeson - International business leader, entrepreneur, investor, author, expert on doing business in China
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Send us a Text Message. Jason chats with Mark Atkeson, who shares the ins and outs of his 30-year journey doing business in China, covering everything from the massive economic changes to the nitty-gritty of Chinese entrepreneurship and innovation. Mark dives into the misconceptions about China, his personal experiences across various sectors, and …
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Sean Osborn - Mindset Coach, Podcaster, Author
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Send us a Text Message. Sean shares his journey from homelessness to a successful exit of his startup, the methodologies he uses to achieve maximum impact and the power of mentorship. "Once that switch hit, I knew my life was going to be the way I wanted it." - Sean Osborn "You've got to see outside of your current experiences to get where you want…
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Ep 145 — BoM Authorship Data | Approaching Zion pt. 2
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It’s time for our next installment of Huge Niblet’s Approaching Zion! He spends basically the entire section lamenting higher education and any information from sources other than the “p”rophet’s counsel. Does he want us to be zealous, or learned? Nobody knows! But before that we have a quick debrief and error correction from the last episode of Mo…
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Matt Gerlach - Helping entrepreneurs create unapologetically abundant lives
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Send us a Text Message. Jason and Matt go deep on how Matt turned his battle with trauma into a story of triumph. From confronting childhood adversities to navigating the complexities of mental health in entrepreneurship, Matt shares his transformative journey, offering invaluable insights into resilience, growth, and the power of vulnerability. Ke…
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Adam Quiney returns! Executive Coach, Author, Plant Medicine Fan
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Send us a Text Message. Jason sits down with Adam Quiney, a visionary leader and aficionado of plant medicine. Together, they embark on a journey through self-discovery, personal growth, and the transformative power of sacred plants. Adam shares his profound experiences and insights into the world of ayahuasca and psilocybin, offering listeners a u…
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Ep 144 — A Study In Scarlet by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle; 17 Miracles
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We did it! We FINALLY did it! After years and years and years of requests from many listeners we have finally taken a look at Sir Arthur Conan Doyle’s very first Sherlock Holmes book — A Study In Scarlet. We look at the time period Doyle was writing it and why he would take on Mormonism in his first book. We also take a look at the impact the story…
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Dr. Eugene Choi Part 2 - Executive State vs. Survival State
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Send us a Text Message. Dr. Eugene K. Choi is back for part 2! Jason and Eugene dig in on the executive vs survival state, recognizing the key to high performance and how to know what state you are in. Key Insights: Executive vs. Survival State: Learn to identify when you're in survival mode and how to shift into your executive state for better out…
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Dr. Eugene K. Choi-Transformational Mindset Coach Part 1
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Send us a Text Message. Eugene shares his profound insights from a 10-day silent meditation retreat, revealing how such experiences can significantly impact our understanding and management of the mind, ultimately enhancing our quality of life. Key Takeaways: The science behind training your brain for peak performance. Moving from survival mode to …
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Ep 143 — Mormon Gold Rush | Approaching Zion pt. 1
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It’s time to take a look at the early Utah economy as created by Brigham Young, a ruthless capitalist in his own right. We take a brief look at the beginnings of the California Gold Rush and how much the Mormons were involved, as well as the battle for control between Bloody Brigham and Samuel Brannan. Which also leads us into Part 1 of our deep di…
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Laura Johns-Founder and CEO at The Business Growers
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Send us a Text Message. Laura and Jason riff on her experiences navigating the complex world of tech marketing, the challenges of entrepreneurship, and her unique approach to maintaining a work-life balance. Key Takeaways: The importance of aligning your team with core values like trust and balance. Strategies for effective decision-making in busin…
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Ep 142 — RLDS/CoC President Stassi Cramm
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The Community of Christ, formerly the RLDS church, has named its new president! We bring on guest Evan Sharley to help us navigate the history of the RLDS/CoC, the climate into which Stassi Cramm is ascending to the office of prophet/president, and the current issues within the Community of Christ which converge to give a bleak impression of its fu…
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Ep 141 — Introduction to Hugh Nibley
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Today we take a look at the man who is inarguably THE best apologist of the mormon church. Yes, we are talking about Hugh Nibley. Show Notes: Hugh Nibley: A Consecrated Life by Boyd Peterson Leaving the Saints: How I Lost the Mormons and Found My Faith by Martha Beck Hugh Nibley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hugh_Nibley Hugh Nibley Biography: http…
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Ep 140 — Newest Apostle Patrick Kearon; Thank You for Smoking
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Newest Apostle for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Elder Patrick Kearon, joins replaces M. Russel Ballard in the highest leadership body of the Mormon hierarchy. Who is he, from where does he come (professionally and otherwise), and what does his calling mean for the future of the wealthiest religion in the world? We do an apostoli…
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WAHOO! It’s that time of year again. Time for our last episode of the year because we’ve finished off everything for the year and we want to have some fun. And that fun is BOOKS, of course! Well, this time books, movies, TV shows, and video games. We each brought three for you. Shannon brought three books to movie adaptations and Bryce brought thre…
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Mike Brennan - Creator and Communicator Telling Stories on Pages and Stages
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Send us a Text Message. In this conversation, hosts discuss the vital role of creativity and fun in both personal and professional contexts. Guest Mike Brennan, an accomplished visual artist and storyteller, suggests the act of creating shouldn't be seen as a reward, but as a part of the process itself. He highlights activities, such as doodling, l…
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode, Stephen Matthew Clark, a repeat guest and incarcerated individual, shared his insights about the prison system and the disparities present. The host, Jason, facilitates a conversation about the common misconceptions about prison life primarily shaped by media depictions. Stephen delves into his experience li…
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Ep 138 — Saints: The Standard of Truth-iness pt. 10 FINALE!
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That’s right! We’re done!! But we have to get through the final 3 chapters before rounding it out and providing our conclusions. The new authoritative history of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is mostly what we expected; New Mormon History is dead and Saints: The Standard of Truth telegraphs an era of academic retrenchment. These c…
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Mark Lewis - Entreprenuer, Investor, Author, Co-Founder
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Send us a Text Message. In this episode, entrepreneur, author, and co-founder Mark Lewis, delves into his passion for facilitating business success, his unique interview techniques, and his concerns about people's goal-setting capabilities. He shares his and his wife's project, creating a children's book series to teach important life values. Mark …
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Send us a Text Message. Matt joins the show to talk about why just being yourself is the best way to be in business, shares some cool gift ideas for the holidays and what drives him to create a company that can create a last impacting and creating joy for others. Matt is the founder and CEO of Parentpresents.com, the leading gift recommendation ser…
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Ep 137 — Saints: The Standard of Truth-iness pt. 9
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We’re in tunnel-vision mode until we finish this propagandistic pile of rubbish. Today is the penultimate episode of our long-form review of Saints. It begins in the spring of 1842 with John C. Bennett’s violent departure from Nauvoo and ends with the destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor. Lots of things happen in this 2-year period and the book igno…
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Ep 136 — ExMo Candle Co.; Death to Smoochy
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AT LONG LAST! We’re joined by Jen from ExMo Candle Co. to talk all about her experience and what led her to processing and healing from the Mormon cult through blasphemous candles! She tells of her story with the church, attending a Mormon university, depression and self-destruction caused by shame through bishop’s interviews and “repentance”, and …
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Send us a Text Message. Kent joins the show to talk about his journey from planting church and pastoring congregations, the moment when he literally found himself on the floor and unable to move forward because of burnout and Jason and Kent talk through the simple framework to have us create more wholeness in our lives. Kent believes true success c…
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Bebuo Christianne - Coach & Retreat Facilitator
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Send us a Text Message. Bebuo joins the show to talk about how she creates exceptional experiences for her retreats, the ways of growing up that created who she wants to be in the world for others now and how to handle the tough crowd when facilitating an event. "It's all about your perspective." Bebuo Christianne Ewa is the owner of Christianne & …
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Ep 135 — Skinwalker Ranch; Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
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It’s that time of year! SpooOOOoooOOOookey stories! First we talk about a hotbed of paranormal interdimensional activity in the heart of Mormon country; Skinwalker Ranch! After that we deep dive into the sci-fi classic Frankenstein. We wrap with a quick reminder to get out and vote along with catching up on listener mail! Show Notes: https://en.wik…
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Cassandra Thompson - The Good, Bad and Ugly of Networking
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Send us a Text Message. Cassandra is back! Fan favorite and returning guest Cass and Jason dig into the topic of networking. Tune in to hear some networking horror stories, actionable ways to make networking more systematic and fun and more. Cassandra Thompson is a globally recognized speaker whose work casting contestants for Wheel of Fortune, str…
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