Part of the Hagerty Podcast Network, the Carmudgeon Show is a comedic, information-filled conversation with Jason Cammisa and Derek Tam-Scott, two car enthusiasts who are curmudgeonly beyond their years. Proving you don’t have to be old to be grumpy, they spend each episode talking about what’s wrong with various parts of the automotive universe. Despite their best efforts to keep it negative, they usually wind up laughing, happy, and extolling their love for cars. Which just makes them angr ...
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GMA T.50 Passenger Seat Review & LFA — Carmudgeon Show Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 160
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Jason rides in the left seat of a T.50 and declares it the best sounding engine he's ever heard — dethroning the Lexus LFA. With which he and Derek have experience. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === First of all, Jason calculates his cars' brake fluid age and is mostly okay with it, but also s…
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Sreten from @M539Restorations and E60 M5 — Carmudgeon Show Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 159
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In this episode, Jason and Derek interview Sreten, a friend and YouTuber who stars in his channel M539 Restorations. Sreten bought a salvaged, rare 6-speed manual-transmission E60 BMW M5 — and resurrected it to attend Monterey Car Week. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === M539 Restorations speci…
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Bad Mechanics Leave a Lasting Legacy — The Carmudgeon Show Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 158
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Jason just solved a nagging problem on his car that he paid to have fixed 26 years ago. Turns out, the mechanic charged him for a repair he didn't make. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === Jason just solved a nagging problem on his car that he paid to have fixed 26 years ago. Turns out, the mech…
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The E31 BMW 850CSi and other 8-series — The Carmudgeon Show Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 157
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E31 Syndrome: The explanation of why the E31 8-series is widely regarded as a beautiful failure. This is the full history of the BMW 850i, 850Ci, 850CSi, and 840Ci. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === The BMW 850i had the first post-war German V12. It made 300 hp and was installed in a pillarles…
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Cars: Travel Is Fatal To Prejudice — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 156
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Single-brand car fans don't know what they're missing. Mark Twain once wrote that “Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness, and many of our people need it sorely on these accounts." The sentiment holds true for cars, too. **SORRY FOR BEING A DAY LATE, FOLKS!** === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Joi…
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Insights on Your Car's Future Value — The Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 155
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The enthusiast car market has cooled — which likely benefits you. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === This episode is the Tales of a Used Car Salesman, Derek Tam-Scott Edition! Derek spends his professional (and personal) life selling enthusiast and collectible cars, and he's noticed some major …
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America's Most Powerful Cars Ever — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 154
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Do we love fast cars? Or is the experience more important than the speed? === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === Jason's T-Shirt: https://closed-course-productions.printify.me/ Get some behind-the-scenes of Jason's Ultimate Drag Race Replay episode racing the two most powerful American cars of all …
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The Automotive 4-Letter Word — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 153
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Oh, truck it, let's say the word! Nobody likes the word "hybrid" but adding electric assist to combustion engines really can pave a way forward, especially for long-haul trucking. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev https://www.pickmebean.com https://range.energy === This week, Derek and Jason have …
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Crazy Hybrids Are The New Normal — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 152
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It's not just Bugatti — we're seeing a shift away from pedestrian turbocharged engines and toward hybrids with an amazing engine as the centerpiece. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === There's a bunch of amazing stuff coming — but sadly nothing for enthusiasts who don't have unlimited funds. Lam…
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Signs You Might Be A Bad Driver! — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 151
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Let's have some fun coming up with a list of things that other drivers do that piss you off! Make sure to comment below! === This episode is sponsored by Vyper Industrial — America’s #1 rated shop chair, tool carts, and creepers, proudly made here in the US. Go to https://www.vyperindustrial.com/ and use code HAGERTY for $50 off on all your order! …
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Rivian R1T & R1S 2nd-gen Review — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 150
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There's a new set of Rivian twins on the market, but most of updates on the R1T and R1S are under the skin. But they're very significant! === This episode is sponsored by Vyper Industrial — America’s #1 rated shop chair, tool carts, and creepers, proudly made here in the US. Go to https://www.vyperindustrial.com/ and use code HAGERTY for $50 off on…
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Is Waymo The Best Taxi Ride Ever? — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 149
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We discuss the future of motoring in the back seat of a Jaguar I-Pace while it's being self-driven by Waymo's computers around San Francisco. === This episode is sponsored by Vyper Industrial — America’s #1 rated shop chair, tool carts, and creepers, proudly made here in the US. Go to https://www.vyperindustrial.com/ and use code HAGERTY for $50 of…
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The Most Fun You Can Have — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 148
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This week, the Carmudgeons recap their recent 600-mile back-road blast, which resulted in a surprise Best Car for the Mission. Unrelated, an update on their newly-acquired V-12 cars. === This episode is sponsored by Vyper Industrial — America’s #1 rated shop chair, tool carts, and creepers, proudly made here in the US. Go to https://www.vyperindust…
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Is The EV Market Actually Doomed? — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 147
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It's largely being reported in the media that Electric Vehicles are in trouble — sales are down, inventory is up, and customers just aren't interested. Is any of this true? ...or is this just a blip in the now-unavoidable transition away from combustion vehicles? === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev …
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The V12 Is(n't) the Ultimate Engine — The Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 146
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This is an inclusive list of every V-12 passenger car engine ever produced — with information, opinion, and the possibility that the V-12 isn't actually the best engine layout. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === Update: The data sharing programs from Honda, Hyundai (Verisk) and General Motors (…
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The Full Piëchisode Podcast Bonus! — The Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 145
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Y'all never thought it was going to happen, but here it is — whether you've seen the ICONS video or not, this is one to watch! HOODIE: https://tinyurl.com/CammisaHoodie === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === After years of teasing, the Carmudgeon Show is finally covering the life and achievements o…
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ND3 Miata Review & Pre-Piëchisode Ep — The Carmudgeon Show Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 144
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After a quick review of the updated (and even better) 2024 Mazda MX-5 Miata, the boys delve into the long-awaited Piëchisode by talking about the cars it featured. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === Included in this episode is a review and discussion of: 2024 Mazda Miata MX-5 (ND3) 1973 Porsche…
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ALERT! These Cars Will Snitch On You — The Carmudgeon Show Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 143
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Your Honda, Acura, Hyundai or Kia is selling driving data to insurance companies as an excuse to hurt enthusiasts. And that is disgusting. UPDATE: General Motors has cancelled its OnStar Smart Driver System, which means you can safely keep driving your Blackwing like it was meant to be driven. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https…
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2024 Tesla Model 3 Performance Full Review w/ Jason Cammisa — The Carmudgeon Show Ep. 142
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The "Highland" Tesla Model 3 is a big step forward for the world's best transportation device. The new Performance (not Plaid!) model approaches sport-sedan perfection === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === The facelifted '24 Model 3 Performance features fully revised suspension, with not a single …
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Hyundai Ioniq 5 N Is The Answer — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 141
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There's finally a hot-hatch for enthusiasts that runs on electricity — and it's a $67,500 Hyundai! === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === This is the Embargoed first review of the 2025 Hyundai Ioniq 5 N by Jason Cammisa! The Ioniq 5 N isn't just an EV — it has a mode called N e-Shift that emulates …
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Automakers Are Cheating Again! — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 140
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If you've noticed that headlights are blinding, you should know it's because automakers are cheating on lighting standards, just as they've cheated about emissions and safety. Jason calls it Lighting-Gate! === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === The dim-witted U.S. Government has blocked automakers …
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Random Number Generator Car Reviews — The Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 139
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Back by popular demand, Jason and Derek dive into reviews of random cars from their past. And Jason hits gold. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === Jason and Derek stumbled across what must be Jason's harshest car review ever — his first drive of the R35 Nissan GT-R. While he recognizes that he d…
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The End of the Stickshift — The Carmudgeon Show feat Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam HyphenScott — Ep 138
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The GTI's manual is dead — despite half of U.S.-spec GTIs being sold with a clutch pedal. What on earth is going on? === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === In this episode of the Carmdudgeon show, we discuss every manual-transmission car on sale in the U.S., and what percentage of buyers opt for it…
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The History of Lamborghini — The Carmudgeon Show feat Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam HyphenScott — Ep 137
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Lamborghini has turned out to be everything Ferruccio didn't want it to be — and thank heavens. What started out as the Ultimate Grudge Match against Enzo Ferrari created some of the most outrageous cars ever made. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === This episode covers the history of Lamborghin…
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Florida Delivered The Goods And Cars! — The Carmudgeon Show Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 136
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The boys are back from The Amelia, and now you get the recap on all that was amazing. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === The Amelia is one of the most prestigious Concours in America, but it's evolving more quickly than most — there was a whole 1990s JDM supercar section! And the same weekend, …
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Live from The Amelia in Florida — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 135
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In this episode of the Carmudgeon Show, presented by Vyper Chairs, was recorded live on location at The Amelia in lovely, rainy Florida! https://www.vyperindustrial.com/collections/vyper-chairs The Carmudgeons have just arrived in Florida, and are greeted by a stunning Chrysler Halcyon concept car. The boys interview special guests Ralph Gilles, le…
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The Delicate Dance of Being Nice To Cars — Carmudgeon Show Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 134
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It's not always easy being nice when you're paid to be honest. This week, the Carmudgeons discuss how to give a bad review without upsetting everyone. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === John Phillips: "What Not To Write." https://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/a15127687/john-phillips-a-w…
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What Your Car Says About You Part 2 — Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 133
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Hate to say it, but we all form opinions about the drivers of car brands. In this episode, the Carmudgeons finish their discussion of how they perceive drivers of different cars. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === Your car is an avatar, and you're being judged on it. Jason and Derek laugh their…
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The Rover SD1 and British Leyland — The Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 132
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In this episode, we take a close look at British Leyland through the eyes of the Rover 3500 (SD1)starts a discussion about the current state of — and scary future of — Stellantis. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-Rev === British Leyland was the combined entity of many, many English car brands: Austin…
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What Your Car Says About You — The Carmudgeon Show with Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 131
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Like it or not, we all form opinions about the drivers of car brands. In this episode, the Carmudgeons discuss how they perceive drivers of different cars. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-ICONS === Your car is an avatar, and you're being judged on it. Jason and Derek laugh their way through their ow…
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Meet Anthony Esposito and Rob Sanders — Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 130
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Meet the team behind Jason’s award-winning YouTube videos on this special episode of The Carmudgeon Show. === Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-ICONS === In this special episode, we get to know Anthony Esposito and Rob Sanders, the director and editor behind Jason Cammisa’s multiple-award-winning YouTube …
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The Good Old Days vs Tomorrow — The Carmudgeon Show with Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 129
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"The good old days weren't always good. And tomorrow ain't as bad as it seems." Jason and Derek got a huge amount of feedback from the previous episode discussing whether the current car market sucks for Young Enthusiasts. In this episode, the Carmudgeons discuss the feedback — and further define what the problem is — and why that results in outrag…
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Today's 5 Most Innovative Cars — The Carmudgeon Show with Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 128
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This episode is a great discussion coming from a question submitted by our producer Jake: what is the modern equivalent of the Mercedes W201 190E? == This episode of “The Carmudgeon Show” is presented by Valentine One Radar Locator: Find radar before it finds you! https://bit.ly/Valentine1_Hagerty Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https…
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A Bad Time To Be a Young Enthusiast — Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 127
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Derek feels like young enthusiasts have gotten screwed in multiple ways — there are no affordable collectible cars anymore and there are no modern cars that are fun and affordable. Plus, with increased cost of living and sky-high student debt, young people have no chance of owning anything great. Jason fully disagrees. == This episode of “The Carmu…
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Learning About Tires Leads to Rallycross — Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 126
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It's a special bonus holiday episode of the Carmudgeon Show! The boys meant to do an episode teaching you everything you need to know about tires. == This episode of “The Carmudgeon Show” is presented by Valentine One Radar Locator: Find radar before it finds you! https://bit.ly/Valentine1_Hagerty Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https…
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911 S/T Review + Our Favorite Cars of 2023 — Carmudgeon Show Jason Cammisa Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 125
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Jason drives the 2024 Porsche 911 S/T, the latest limited-production sports car from the Rennsport division of Porsche that makes the GT2, GT3, and GT4. And this leads to a discussion of our favorite drives of the year. == This episode of “The Carmudgeon Show” is presented by Valentine One Radar Locator: Find radar before it finds you! https://bit.…
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The 2024 Hagerty Bull Market w Larry Webster — Carmudgeon Show Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 124
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This episode is an unfiltered chat about the 2024 Hagerty Bull Market — an annual gathering of collector cars that are poised to appreciate in the next year. == This episode of “The Carmudgeon Show” is presented by Valentine One Radar Locator: Find radar before it finds you! https://bit.ly/Valentine1_Hagerty Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's …
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Getting Down to Two Cars & General Update — The Carmudgeon Show Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 123
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It's time for a quick Carmudgeon Catch-Up. The boys have been busy filming, but they're back in the studio for a session to discuss what's been going on. And, it turns out, to ponder what life would be like with only two cars. == This episode of “The Carmudgeon Show” is presented by Valentine One Radar Locator: Find radar before it finds you! https…
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Jason's 3-day Exclusive with the Cybertruck — The Carmudgeon Show Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 122
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The Cybertruck is easily the most controversial vehicle of the last decade, and Tesla gave Jason Cammisa exclusive access to its engineers — to drive it, watch it in a crash-test, drag race it, race it around a go-kart track, and hit it with a sledgehammer. This is a companion podcast to the "Jason Cammisa on the ICONS" episode, available on the Ha…
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Ultimate Porsche 911 Spotter's Guide — The Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep 121
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By popular demand, Derek gives a year-by-year spotter's guide to the Air-Cooled Porsche 911. == Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-ICONS == The air-cooled Porsche 911 was in production for three decades, with significant changes almost every year. In this episode of the Carmudgeon Show, Derek Tam-Scott, a …
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The Most Important Mercedes Ever? — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 120
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This episode of the Carmudgeon Show is a documentary on the Mercedes-Benz W201 — the 190E, which might be the most important Mercedes ever. == Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-ICONS == The W201-chassis 1982 Mercedes 190E was a game-changer, because it was a ground-up new car that allowed the luxury car m…
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What Does Handling Really Mean? — The Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 119
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People often misunderstand the definition of "handling." What does the term really mean — and what makes the Lucid Air Sapphire the best-handling car in the world? == Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-ICONS == Watch Larry Webster try to roll a Corvair: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI9Hq0_Mhy0 Watch Jas…
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Every Mustang including Dark Horse — Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 118
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Review of the 2024 S650 Ford Mustang Dark Horse and every generation of Mustangs ever — it's The Mustang Episode! == Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-ICONS == In this episode of the Carmudgeon Show, automotive journalist Jason Cammisa talks with historian and expert Derek Tam-Scott about the history of t…
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Random Number Generator Car Reviews #4 — Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 117
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Back by popular demand, the Carmudgeons attack their Excel spreadsheets and call out random reviews of cars they've driven in the past. ...including Jason's mom's stolen-then-crashed E46, pictured in the thumbnail. == Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-ICONS == This episode includes reviews of the: 2019 Mc…
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Ask Us Anything Part 2 — Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 116
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Sorry for being a day late, fans! The Carmudgeons were on-location recording a forthcoming set of videos for the Hagerty Channel! Jason and Hyphen have asked you to pose your questions, and as usual, you've proven that the Carmudgeon Audience is a bunch of smart, interesting humans. The questions were thought-provoking and intelligent. And so numer…
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Ask Us Anything Part 1 — Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 115
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This week, it's your questions and our answers! HagSwag! Cool Mugs! https://shop.hagerty.com/ == Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-ICONS == Jason and Hyphen have asked you to pose your questions, and as usual, you've proven that the Carmudgeon Audience is a bunch of smart, interesting humans. The question…
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The Full Air-Cooled Porsche 911 Story — Carmudgeon Show w Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 114
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Become an expert on the original Porsche 911 in just one hour! == Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-ICONS == The original, air-cooled Porsche 911 Classic spanned many variations and several variants over its 34-year run. In this episode of the Carmudgeon Show, Porsche expert Derek Tam-Scott gives you ever…
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Live From The Detroit Concours w/ Richard Vaughan — The Carmudgeon Show — Cammisa & Hyphen — Ep. 113
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Recorded live at the 2023 Detroit Concours, with special guest Richard Vaughan! == Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-ICONS == This week, Jason and Derek travel to Detroit to check out the Detroit Concours d'Elegance — and of course Jason's first move is to go over to the RADWOOD-Era cars! There's an Alpin…
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Driving the 2024 Lotus Emira & Eletre — Carmudgeon Show w/ Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 112
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The Lotus Emira is fantastic — and the Carmudgeons have a lot to say about it. The last gasoline-powered Lotus is certainly a looker — but it's very closely related to the Evora it replaces. And while the Evora was always good, was it ever truly great? == Click here to join the Hagerty Driver's Club: https://bit.ly/Join-HDC-Cammisa-ICONS == Jason, …
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Mercedes Motor Swaps w/ Matt Kwiek — Carmudgeon Show feat. Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott — Ep. 111
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This week, the Carmudgeons welcome special guest Matt Kwiek, mastermind of numerous outrageous Mercedes engine swaps. Matt helped Derek swap the engine in Derek's Holy Grail purple ("Bornite") S124 E320 dogleg-manual wagon from a 3.2-liter to a freshly built 3.6-liter from a W202 C36 AMG. The swap happened at Jason's warehouse with the help of his …
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