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The People's Passions

Katie VDZ and Hannah Sly

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Is there something in your life you’re passionate about, but don’t get to talk about very often? Hannah Sylvester and Katie VanderZanden invite people to share those things, why they are excited about them, and how they are impactful. Join us as we dive into people’s passions and uncover some of the most beautiful, hilarious, and wholesome aspects of the human experience.
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Sleep like a baby?

Hannah @ Little Nest

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Baby + toddler sleep consultant, mum and founder of Little Nest Sleep, Hannah is on a mission to debunk the myths and mistruths that are fed to exhausted parents who just want to get some decent rest. Using a gentle, holistic approach to night-time parenting, the Sleep Like A Baby? podcast helps mums and dads navigate the nonsense of baby sleep without cry-it-out, or strict rules and routines. Speaking to experts from the worlds of psychology, paediatric healthcare, midwifery, mental health ...
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Yes that's right, more Lucy! We had so much to say about second babies that we had to make it into a 2-parter. What if you can't imagine loving. your new baby as much as your first? How does the bond work? How do you do bedtime with two children (and one parent?) Are nap times always a disaster if your older child doesn't understand the concept of …
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Are you ever ready? What might sleep look like the second time around? Is there such a thing as a 'perfect age gap'? How do you keep your sh*t together when sleep deprived AND looking after another small human? I talk to my very good friend (and fellow sleep consultant) Lucy Bagwell about what she's learnt since having her second baby and try to ta…
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What if there was no word for self-settling? How different would your parenting experience be if nobody expected your baby to sleep in a cot in their own room? This week I'm joined by Lenka Medvecová Tinková from the Durham University Infancy and Sleep Centre to talk about how our cultural expectations shape parenting decisions and ultimately how w…
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A controversial question this week! There will be people who say that cry-it-out is always wrong/cruel/avoidable. And others that believe it is the best thing ever. But what about the space in between these two polarised stances? Kaitlin Klimmer and I are both sleep specialists who offer alternatives to sleep training, but where do we stand on the …
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Are you holding yourself to the highest standards as a mum? Have you noticed a cycle of self-criticism creeping in? What happens when perfectionists and people pleasers have babies? This week's guest, Catherine Counihan, is an Integrative Psychotherapist working in private practice in London. Cath specialises in complex trauma, perfectionism, nervo…
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Just fill their tummies and they'll sleep all night, right? Is food under one just for fun? And what about adding rice or cereal to a bottle at 4m... where do these ideas come from?My guest today, Stacey Zimmels is a Paediatric Speech and Language Therapist as well as a Lactation Consultant (IBCLC). She offers feeding therapy plus breastfeeding and…
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Is your baby sleeping less than their peers? Are they cat-nappers with late bedtimes but... actually thriving? You might be surprised to learn that this is actually A Thing! The idea that all babies need long naps and 12hrs overnight is totally outdated and not backed by science. But if you have a low sleep needs kid, you might be struggling to fin…
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My guest today is the relationship therapist and coach, Catherine Topham Sly who you may know from her Instagram account Insight and Connection. She is the expert in happy relationships after kids – and this is a subject that I have been desperate to cover for so long.In my opinion, how our relationships and partnerships change after becoming paren…
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Making her very welcome return to the Sleep Like a Baby? podcast is the one and only midwife and lactation consultant Olivia Hinge! You may well know her from much-loved Instagram account (@olivia_lactation_consultant), I know I am a super-fan. In this week's episode we talk a lot about the pressures that mothers put on themselves and celebrate the…
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Helen Davies is a health visitor, PICU nurse and sleep specialist as well as a mother of four. She has 22 years of parenting experience and also runs the very funny, very real Instagram account @Essential_Parenting. TW: domestic abuse and mental illness In this week's episode Helen shares her story of overcoming a toxic relationship and mental heal…
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This was one of the most enlightening, inspiring episodes I've ever recorded. Zoe Blaskey's Motherkind podcast is one of my favourite things to listen to and I just knew she would be the best person to talk to about maternal guilt and shame. We covered the intricacies of disagreeing with your partner over different parenting choices (what do you do…
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Can you be a responsive parent when you've got more than one baby? How do you get two or three babies to sleep at the same time? Do they 'have to' self-settle? Is it possible to co-sleep with twins? And what happens if you've got a big family and the youngest is a highly sensitive soul that needs a lot of extra support? Kathryn Stagg is an Internat…
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Ever since I had my mum on this podcast, I've been desperate to ask her mum more about parenthood. Did she choose to cry-it-out? Was she obsessed with how her baby slept? What were her generation's expectations of infant sleep? This episode is a super special one to me as my 90 year old grandmother and I reflect on early parenthood - what do we hav…
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We really don't hold back in this week's episode! Is it ok to live sleep train a 4 month old baby on Instagram? Do paediatricians have the right to tell new parents they should leave their baby to cry it out? Are we shaming other mothers by saying controlled crying isn't for us? Rachael runs HeySleepyBaby - the largest biologically-normal infant sl…
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Sometimes the biggest change we can make to our family's sleep situation is to find acceptance and surrender to the present. I sat down with Ana from The Octopus Club to talk about how she found peace and patience over her own son's sleep (and frequent waking) over the last 3 and a half years. If you have a very wakeful baby or toddler, it can feel…
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If you co-sleep with your baby now, will you have to do it forever? Are you holding your child back from independence? And what if you WANT to do it long-term - how do you cope with other people’s opinions about that? We also get into sex and bed-sharing, cosleeping when you have a baby as well as older children and establishing your own boundaries…
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Have you ever wondered if your child's sleep is influenced by their gender? Do baby boys wake more? Do little girls take longer to fall asleep? To explore this I sat down with Kirstie from Sonshine Magazine, a proudly feminist quarterly publication that explores the challenges and the joys that come with raising boys in the modern world. If we want…
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Greer Kirshenbaum is the world's first neuroscientist doula and in this episode she shares her expert knowledge about the superpower that is nurture. We cover so much: How sensitive, attuned caregiving meets a growing brain's needs Why your baby or toddler settles differently in a childcare setting compared to home Why you don't need to feel guilty…
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This week's chat is super personal! My mum, Jan, shares her experience of having four very different babies (born in the 70s, 80s and 90s) - we discuss breastfeeding, bed-sharing and responding to cries in the night. In 1978 my mum was 21 years old and had just given birth to her son. Six weeks later she found herself moving from a small town in NW…
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Do you have to bed-share, breastfeed and baby-wear in order to have a securely attached child? Can your little one be TOO attached? Are you making them clingy by contact napping and feeding on demand? Is it your fault if your baby or toddler has a strong preference for one parent over the other? These are really common questions that come up all th…
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Have you experienced unwanted intrusive thoughts as a new mum? Why does the arrival of (very normal) maternal rage feel like such a shock to so many of us? I sat down with perinatal psychologist Dr Caroline Boyd who has written a beautiful, incredibly helpful book called Mindful New Mum as an antidote to all the parenting manuals out there currentl…
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Have you been warned against making a rod for your own back by carrying your child? Has someone told you that slings and carriers are just a new trend or something used only by a certain 'type' of parent? What about the idea that they won't ever learn to walk if they are always carried? Zoe Woodman from The Sling Consultancy joins me for this week'…
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Sam Meachin is a hypnobirthing coach with a difference and in this week's episode she shares her two very different birth stories that lead her to creating The Wonderhood's online courses. We talk about how birth can lead to feeling like we have lost control over ourselves and how this can then impact how we feel about sleep, feeding and other area…
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What kinds of sleep challenges do people with training in infant sleep face? The same ones as anyone else, of course! In the last year Lucy and I have navigated dummy drops, cot to bed transitions, separation anxiety, parental preference, dropping naps and bedtime battles. So we wanted to get together and talk about how we have personally figured t…
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Kerry Secker has one of the most successful holistic infant sleep companies in the UK and ever since this podcast started I have been itching to sit her down and find out more about why she went down the care-it-out route when all her peers were putting their kids on naughty steps and leaving babies to settle themselves. We talk about what crying m…
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It might be common for a baby to spit up, but if you're the parent of a little one who is super unsettled with reflux or colic, being told it will pass isn't good enough. I spoke to holistic reflux specialist Faye of Rockabye Reflux all about the emotional cost of reflux and what we need to understand about digestive discomfort in babies. Reflux is…
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Becoming a parent for the first time brings up a lot emotions and memories for us all... and yet this doesn't get talked about a lot. In this episode I speak to Stephanie Beucher who is a lactation consultant, midwife, maternity nurse and currently studying for her Masters in Psychology. Her company Holistic Babies London supports and empowers fami…
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Neuroscientist, infant sleep specialist and mother of two Rocio talks to me all about the enormous changes in our brains that take place when we become parents. We learn a lot about how our babies' brains develop but know very little about our own enormous neurological shifts. Rocio is on a mission to correct that! As she says: "when a baby is born…
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Is she a good baby? Is he sleeping through the night yet? These questions can unintentionally fill a new parent with dread and anxiety. My guest today, Suzanna aka @RealKindParent, and I talk about all things motherhood: the quest for control over sleep, the illusion of the perfect baby, the freedom of surrendering and accepting you are where you a…
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Feeding and sleep are completely intertwined for babies and toddlers. And regardless of how you get milk to your baby, whether that's boob, bottle or a bit of both, tongue ties can and do impact little ones. Carmelle is an independent midwife and IBCLC infant feeding specialist as well as a tongue tie now expert on a mission to raise awareness of h…
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Lyndsey Hookway is one of the UK's leading infant sleep experts and is a passionate advocate for gentle and responsive parenting. Lyndsey's third book, Still Awake: responsive sleep tools for toddlers to tweens is out this month so I decided to pick her brains all about bedtime boundaries, wants versus needs and how to tackle early rising with verb…
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What exactly IS separation anxiety and how does it impact sleep and bedtime for little ones? I speak to clinical psychologist Dr MDC about what it means throughout infancy and childhood, how we can handle it and why separation is actually a good thing for parent and child. If bedtime has become a battle, or you are anxious about how childcare may i…
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Emily was kind enough to share her story of pre and postnatal mental health struggles and how this led her to become a holistic sleep coach and help families who have been through tough times. A word of warning though, some of the subjects are a little heavy and may be triggering for some people, so best to avoid if the following things are difficu…
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This week I'm speaking to midwife and lactation consultant Olivia Hinge (aka @olivia_lactaction_consultatant on IG) about the adjustment we all go through into motherhood, whether that's with your first baby or your fourth. We discuss the process of matrescence and how unrecognised it is in society, even though it is as significant a change for a w…
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"Just put your baby down drowsy but awake" "Never feed to sleep" "Infants don't develop properly unless they get 12hrs of unbroken sleep every night" Are you overwhelmed by the number of people telling you that you're creating a rod for your own back by responding to your baby or by supporting them to fall asleep? Why do well-meaning family members…
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When did it become mainstream for parents to go down the Cry It Out route? Why do all the parenting 'experts' insist on telling mothers and fathers to ignore their instincts and focus on self-settling instead? And why do so many of us feel like failures if our babies don't yet sleep through the night? To find out how we got here, I spoke to anthrop…
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