A mindset, money, and life podcast for late starters catching up to Financial Independence.
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A podcast that shines a light on the outer edges of inner knowing. Tune in for spellbinding interviews on the occult, magic, astrology, tarot, witchcraft, psychic mediums, paranormal investigations, spirituality, and more.
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Where our fiction is intersectional and our ideas are forward! Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/fiction-forward/support
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What started as a way for a burned out therapeutic arts director working in a unique school for unhoused youth to connect with fellow colleagues serving marginalized youth and their communities in innovative ways is now a podcast. The Artful Leader asks, “What does it mean to lead?”, “How can we guide and serve with more skill, heart, and creativity?” and "What if we put health & well-being first in our professional lives and workplaces?". It explores answers that can only be found in healin ...
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Better Late Than Never: A Step By Step Guide Part 1 | BiggerPockets Money Podcast | 083
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Bill and Jackie were invited to join Mindy and Scott on the BiggerPockets Money podcast to go through a step-by-step process of how to get started on the path to financial independence as a late-starter, a topic highly relevant to their audience. Take a listen to this week's part one and then tune in next week for part two! 🔗 Connect with us Buy CU…
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Can Prenups Really Save Your Marriage? | Aaron Thomas | 082
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Meet Aaron Thomas, an attorney, founder of Prenups.com, and author of the book "The Prenup Prescription." In perfect time for wedding season, Aaron chats with Bill and Jackie about how a proper prenup can not only protect but improve your relationship. As a former divorce attorney who helped hundreds of clients secure favorable settlements, Aaron s…
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How to Think About Time: A Humble Legacy | Jonathan Clements | 081
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Today we're rerunning our episode with Jonathan Clements who is a dear personal friend and a friend of our community. He recently posted on his blog, HumbleDollar, about his final lap around the sun yesterday. Let’s send him our love. 🔗 Connect with us Buy CUtFI a coffee Record a message for CUtFI Thank you to our sponsors: Personal Finance Club (U…
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Green Makes Green | Kyle Landis-Marinello | 080
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Kyle Landis-Marinello is a practicing attorney specializing in environmental and energy law. Bill and Jackie dive deep with Kyle into topics such as socially responsible investing, student loan forgiveness, and his book, Personal Finance and Investing: How Anyone can Make More, Spend Less, and Invest Wisely. We also learn about Kyle’s unique financ…
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Indiana Jones and an Extraordinary Life with the Donegans | Alan and Katie Donegan | 079
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Meet the dynamic duo, Alan and Katie Donegan! The Donegans, known for their Rebel Finance School and Rebel Business School, share their insights on living an extraordinary life, both financially and personally. From defining what “extraordinary” means on an individual level to the importance of financial independence and entrepreneurship, Alan and …
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CyberFI and the FBI | Donna Peterson | 078
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Donna Peterson is a retired supervisory special agent and joins Bill and Jackie to cover the essential topic of internet and financial security. Drawing from her extensive background in combating cybercrime with the FBI, Donna shares her expert advice on how to secure personal and financial information against common hacks, the importance of two-fa…
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The Life and Death of The 4% Rule | Christine Benz | 077
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Christine Benz is the Director of Personal Finance and Retirement Planning at Morningstar. Christine shares her extensive insights into retirement planning, emphasizing the flexibility and adaptability of the 4 percent guideline over the rigid 4 percent rule. She discusses the value of variable withdrawal strategies, the importance of personalizing…
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The Wealthy Custodian Part 2: From Janitor to Millionaire | Jeff York | 076
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In part 2, Jeff York continues his discussion with Bill and Jackie about the financial importance of amicable divorces, the nitty gritty on his investments, and how he was able to "graduate" on his modest salary. The three also dive deep into Jeff's unique lifestyle, the necessity of personal health before and after retirement, and the rewarding na…
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Pop Up Podcast: Behind the Sensation Talking FI with the NY Times | 075
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In this special pop up episode, Bill, Jackie, and special guest Amy Coroso engage in a thought-provoking discussion sparked by a controversial New York Times Magazine article about the FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) movement. The three chat about the article's portrayal of diverse financial independence approaches as well as the articl…
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The Wealthy Custodian Part 1: A Blue Collar Guide to Financial Freedom | Jeff York | 074
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Jeff York is a remarkable individual whose journey from custodian to millionaire offers a wealth of inspiration and practical advice. Jeff's story breaks down conventional barriers, showcasing the power of education, financial literacy, and personal responsibility. From his unique investment strategies and the importance of health to his experience…
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Sustainable FIlosophy with Mr. Money Mustache | Pete Adeney | 073
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He’s here, Mr. Money Mustache! Also known as Pete Adeney, the financial independence OG shares his story with Bill and Jackie. From retiring at 30 and starting one of the most popular blogs in the community to the importance of choosing sustainability with your money. The three discuss some of Pete’s most impactful articles (listed below), highligh…
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Celebrating Financial Literacy Month with Next Gen Personal Finance | Tim Ranzetta | 072
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In celebration of Financial Literacy Month, Tim Ranzetta, co-founder of NextGen Personal Finance, chats with Bill and Jackie on the transformative power of teaching personal finance to students. Discussing stats, stories, and strategies, this episode covers everything from the ripple effects of financial literacy to state-level advocacy for require…
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From Tech Stocks to Toilet Brushes: The Jensens' FI Journey | Mindy and Carl Jensen | 071
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Although you’ve probably heard of this powerful pair, Mindy and Carl Jensen hop onto our show to share their personal journeys to financial independence and beyond. The Jensens discuss their experiences with podcasting, real estate investing, individual stock investments, and the lifestyle adjustments they've made after achieving financial independ…
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Pathfinders: Triumphs and Trials on the Road to Financial Independence | JL Collins | 070
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In Part 2 of Bill and Jackie’s conversation with JL Collins, the three explore his latest book “Pathfinders” and unravel the powerful narratives that underscore the ethos of financial independence. The trio discuss various topics such as the significance of starting early in investments, the pivotal moments which define one’s financial path, and th…
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Pathfinders: Stories of Success and Financial Independence | JL Collins | 069
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Welcome back, JL Collins! Affectionately known as the Godfather of FI, Collins returns to discuss his latest book, "Pathfinders: Extraordinary Stories of People Like You on the Quest for Financial Independence" which explores real-life stories of individuals from diverse backgrounds navigating the journey toward financial freedom. Bill and official…
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Don't Miss Out On Today | Mark Ross | 068
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Mark Ross is a retired executive and a rewired encorepreneur. Mark shares his journey from a traditional career into retirement and how he shaped a fulfilling post-retirement life through diversifying his interests, categorizing his work into things he does for a fee, for free, and just for himself. Through his personal story, he highlights the imp…
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Catching the Wave to FI | Doug Nordman & Carol Pittner | 067
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Doug Nordman and Carol Pittner are a financially-savvy father-daughter duo who take us on their money journey as a family. From learning about money management through unique family practices like the “Bank of Carol,” to achieving financial independence, Doug and Carol share the milestones, strategies, and setbacks of their financial journeys. They…
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Paula Pant is the creator and host of the Afford Anything podcast. She is also a writer, speaker, and media commentator on financial independence, real estate investing, money management, and financial literacy. Today Paula joins us to dive deep into the world of scams, particularly focusing on the elderly. We explore why scams are so convincing, a…
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Dumpster FIRE and the FIRE Brigade | Lauren Beltz | 065
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Lauren Beltz is an engineer turned personal finance enthusiast who shares her insights on budgeting and financial independence with Bill and Becky. The three discuss topics such as the role of contentment in personal finance, necessity of an emergency fund and insurance, and tips for successful budgeting. They also touch on the concept of zero-base…
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On the Road With Catching Up to FI | $lackers Part 2 | 064
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To wrap up this installment of On the Road with Catching up to FI, Becky and Mark chat with Vince and Briana from their $lackers group. Vince discusses his transition to retirement and Briana sheds light on how she's preparing for her future while still working full-time. Thank you to the $lackers for sharing your stories with us! 🔗 Connect with us…
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Retirement Planning Tips | Andy Panko | 063
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Andy Panko is the founder and owner of Tenon Financial, a retirement planning and investment management firm, and Tenon Tax Preparation, a tax return preparation company. Andy joins Becky and guest co-host, Mark, to discuss retirement planning, the role and value of annuities, when to claim social security, and how to determine if you have saved en…
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On the Road With Catching Up to FI | $lackers Part 1 | 062
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Meet the $lackers! Becky and guest co-host, Mark Trautman, introduce us to this fun-loving and world-traveling group made up of individuals who started as a mastermind and now enjoy doing life together. This week we meet Bob and Sharon, a couple who share about their transition into retirement, and Kevin, who offers insights on retirement life and …
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Unpacking Retirement Planning Strategies | Kevin Lyles | 061
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Kevin Lyles, a retired lawyer turned retirement guru and coach, joins Becky and guest co-host Mark Trautman to discuss several aspects of planning for retirement, both financial and non-financial. Kevin talks about the difference between retirement planning and financial advice during the accumulation phase. He advises on how to navigate Social Sec…
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Reflections and The Big Reveal! | Bill Yount & Becky Heptig | 060
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This week is a bittersweet episode for the Catching Up to FI team as our beloved friend and co-host, Becky, announces she’s stepping down from the podcast next month in order to pursue other aspirations during her go-go years of retirement as well as spend more time with her grandkids. While she may not be asking questions on the podcast, be sure t…
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Dr. Bobby Talks Healthspan | Dr. Bobby Dubois | 059
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Dr. Bobby Dubois is a Harvard graduate and physician-scientist who joins Catching Up to FI to talk about the six components of functional health: exercise, sleep, nutrition, mind-body work, exposure to hot and cold, and social relationships. Dr. Dubois takes us through each of these areas, sharing palatable advice backed by scientific evidence. Thi…
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What the (Insurance) Hack? | Chris Hutchins | 058
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Chris Hutchins is an experienced life hacker and financial optimizer. Chris chats with Bill and Becky about his treasure trove of hacks, bringing attention to ones that deal specifically with insurance. From auto to property, and term life to travel insurance, Chris shares valuable tips and insights on how to manage these policies more efficiently.…
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CRASH!: Money Trauma and Recovery | Shannah Game | 057
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Find Shannah on Instagram and TikTok @shannahgame 🔗 Connect with us Buy CUtFI a coffee Record a message for CUtFI Thank you to our sponsors: Personal Finance Club (Use code CUTOFI to get $30 OFF any course or PFC investing course only!) Measure Twice Money ($100 OFF "Create Your Own Financial Plan" Comprehensive Video Course) Nectarine: Advice-Only…
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Simplicity, Empathy, Leadership, Robots, Oh My! | Jeremy Schneider | 056
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Jeremy Schneider is the passionate financial educator behind Personal Finance Club and the innovative platform Nectarine. Jeremy shares his unique perspective on the simplicity of financial success, underscored by his simple rules - 'live below your means' and 'invest early and often.' We delve into the value of robo-advisors versus human advisors,…
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We are honored to have Manisha Thakor, author of "Money Zen," as our guest. Manisha shares her personal journey navigating the pressures of high achievement and workaholism to discover what truly matters. Through her poignant stories and insights, we delve into the meaning of "enough" in both personal finance and emotional wealth. Join us as we exp…
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Social Security Made Simple | Mike Piper | 054
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Mike Piper, author of the book, "Social Security Made Simple", helps Bill and Becky navigate through the many nuances of Social Security. They discuss everything from claiming strategies to survivor benefits as well as taxation and the implications of delaying benefits. Mike sheds light on the often overlooked aspect of spousal benefits, emphasizin…
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Imagineer Your Ikigai | Matt Richter | 053
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Matt Richter, the Financial Imagineer, is a personal finance aficionado who joins us from Basel, Switzerland to chat about playing the game of life, managing windfalls, how to live in stealth wealth, and following your Ikigai. Matt loves spending time with his family, traveling, brewing beer, and writing on his blog to share his biggest passion, Fi…
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Bigger Pockets Money | Mindy Jensen & Scott Trench | 052
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Happy Holidays from the Catching Up to FI team! Please enjoy this episode where Bill and Becky share their financial stories with Mindy Jensen and Scott Trench of Bigger Pockets Money, their most listened to episode! 🔗 Connect with us Buy CUtFI a coffee Record a message for CUtFI Thank you to our sponsors: Personal Finance Club (Use code CUTOFI to …
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Go Go Giving | Bill Yount & Becky Heptig | 051
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Bill and Becky sit down together at Podcast Movement Live to chat about the importance of charitable giving. Giving money may seem difficult, even counterintuitive, if you're a late starter, but there are other ways to give beyond cash; you can also donate your time, talent, and even your car! Bill and Becky list a few of their favorite charitable …
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International Living | Jeff Opdyke | 050
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Bill and returning guest co-host, Jackie, sit down with Jeff Opdyke to talk about raising financially savvy children as well as the pros and cons of living internationally. Jeff was born and raised in South Louisiana but grew up traveling the world and has never really stopped. He spent 17 years covering personal finance and investing for The Wall …
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Single Player FI | Jennifer Mah | 049
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Jennifer Mah is an FI enthusiast, and you can find her wit and wisdom all over many FI social media channels. She is an administrator of the Afford Anything Facebook Group and is active in the Choose FI Community locally and worldwide. Her home base is in the San Diego area where she is an entrepreneurial financial coach at Your Money, Your Life Fi…
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The Astrology of 2024 with Chad the Maverick
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Send us a Text Message. In our final episode of the year, we catch up with astrologer Chad the Maverick for a fresh look at the stars. We take a look back at 2023, examining how the year's major planetary transits have influenced our lives and society as a whole. We also dive into Chad’s outlook for major transits to watch in 2024 and his forecast …
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Mom and Dad, We Need to Talk | Cameron Huddleston | 048
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Cameron Huddleston is the author of "Mom and Dad, We Need to Talk: How to Have Essential Conversations With Your Parents About Their Finances." She is an award-winning journalist with 20 years of experience writing about personal finance. Her work has appeared in Forbes, Kiplinger’s Personal Finance, Chicago Tribune, MSN, Yahoo and many more print …
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My Other Vehicle is a 401(k)! | Diana Falck | 047
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Diana Falck is a 52-year-old retired wife, stepmom to six, Glamma to six, and financial literacy advocate residing in Arizona. She is also on the staff of Catching Up to FI as our Facebook group administrator and social media maven. Diana has an inspiring story of persistence, diligence, and compassion. Burdened with a six-figure MBA debt for over …
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Send us a Text Message. Have you ever wondered how candle making and magic fuse together? Our guest for this episode, Bran Taylor of Magic Hour Candles, shares their four-decade journey as a witch and how they’ve honed their technique in creating extraordinary candles. Bran not only enlightens us on their unique process of designing each candle, bu…
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Live from Bali! | Stacking Benjamins | 046
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Today's episode is a live recording from the FI Freedom Retreat that took place in Bali, Indonesia in October 2023. Amy Minkley organized this awesome event and there were around 45 people in attendance from all over the globe. Becky Heptig and Joe Saul-Sehy from Stacking Benjamins Podcast hosted a few of the attendees to get their unique and inter…
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Year End Tax Planning | Sean Mullaney | 045
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We welcome back Sean Mullaney to the show! Also known as The FI Tax Guy, Sean is a financial planner who offers fee-only and advice-only financial planning at Mullaney Financial & Tax, Inc. He was first on the show back in Episode 013 to discuss the basics of retirement accounts and the tax aspects of those accounts in the accumulation and drawdown…
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Sex in Spirituality, History, and Astrology with Nadège Collot
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Send us a Text Message. This week, sex scholar Nadège Collot — a coach, astrologer, and best-selling author — joins the podcast for an enlightening, empowering exploration of sex, history, and spirituality. In this fascinating and far-reaching conversation, Nadège walks us through her historical research on the fertility goddess Virgo, the true def…
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SpongeBob and Drawdown Strategies | Frank Vasquez | 044
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Frank Vasquez is a mostly retired lawyer with over 30 years' experience in investing for his own accounts. He holds degrees in Economics and Engineering from the California Institute of Technology and a law degree from Georgetown University. He is extremely active in the Financial Independence community, answering questions of all types in forums a…
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Retire Often | Jillian Johnsrud | 043
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Jillian Johnsrud is the author of "Fire the Haters: Finding Courage to Create Online In a Critical World," a blogger at montanamoneyadventures.com, a podcaster at Everyday Courage and Retire Often, and a Life Coach. When Jillian and her husband married, they had $55,000 in debt. They also had big dreams: take mini-retirements, travel the world, and…
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The Banes of Financial Independence | Camp FI Midwest Live | 042
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On this special addition of Catching Up to FI, we get to hear a live panel from CampFI Midwest 2023 hosted by Becky, Diania Merriam of Optimal Finance Daily, and Jordan Grumet of Earn & Invest. The hosts discuss the surprising and maybe not-so-fun sides of financial independence and how to work through them. We also hear personal stories from the p…
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Spiritual Self-reflection with Jackie and Lane
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Send us a Text Message. The fall season has arrived, so grab your favorite cozy beverage and catch up with Lane and Jackie. This week, we’re sharing a conversation that responds some big spiritual questions. Lane and Jackie ponder the role of religion in their lives, the relevance of religion as the world evolves, and beliefs about the concept of f…
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Money for the Rest of Us | David Stein | 041
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David Stein is the host of the personal finance podcast Money for the Rest of Us. The show has over 20M downloads and reaches more than 40,000 listeners per episode. Prior to launching his podcast, David advised and managed assets for institutions and financial planners. He was a Chief Investment Strategist and Chief Portfolio Strategist at Fund Ev…
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How to Think About Money | Jonathan Clements | 040
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Jonathan Clements is the founder and editor of the personal finance website HumbleDollar and author of nine personal finance books. Earlier in his career, Jonathan spent almost 20 years at The Wall Street Journal, where he was the newspaper's personal finance columnist, and six years at Citigroup, where he was director of financial education for th…
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Send us a Text Message. Join us for a disarming conversation with the luminous Liza Fenster, also known as Crow Mother. As a tarot reader and medium, a Reiki Master Teacher and healer, an ordained minister, and a steward of Crow Mother Kachina, Liza is no stranger to the unseen. In this episode, we reflect on her upbringing and relationship to her …
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Fun Buckets and the Secure Income Retirement Process | Mark Trautman | 039
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We welcome back Mark Trautman of Mark’s Money Mind. Bill and Becky chatted with Mark on episode 12 about money in relationships. Mark also stood in for Bill as a co-host with Roger Whitney, the Q&A panel from CampFI, and On the Road with Catching Up to FI. In this conversation, we are going to dive into an alternative to the 4% Rule of Thumb. We se…
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