John can’t spell “yogurt” and has a dog who gives himself shock therapy. Meanwhile, Jonnie isn’t sure a llama should be in your kitchen and tells us the surprising retail price of the nation’s first ballpoint pen in 1945. Plus, a conversation about whether ignorance really is bliss and why knowing the truth makes things better, but not necessarily …

John misquotes yet another popular saying and wants to die at age 100 in the most dramatic way possible. Meanwhile, Jonnie argues that “tearing it off quick like a Band Aid” is terrible advice and tells us how to inform your neighbor that their cat has died. Plus, a conversation about vulnerability, worry, and independence—and what the Bible really…

John becomes an overnight Lakers fan and tells us what song could be used to torture him into submission. Meanwhile, Jonnie goes to a Celine Dion concert and reveals the secret to a great comedy venue. Plus, a conversation about prayer and how our thoughts steer the direction of our lives, for better or worse. Today's episode is NOT sponsored by Fi…

John shares his supervillain origin story and why he loves sitting in a hot car (even though it might be killing him). Meanwhile, Jonnie tells an old (and pointed) joke about religion, along with the story of the Automobile Club who got busted for helping speeders avoid the cops. Plus, a conversation about our idolization of youth, the marginalizat…

John compares churches to soft drinks and reveals his wife’s growing (and dangerous) shoe problem. Meanwhile, Jonnie changes his mind about seatbelt laws and tells us about the time the Pope (literally) demonized cats and helped spread the Plague. Plus, a conversation about love and risk, and why a guarded heart is like putting plastic covers on yo…

John goes to a fishing rodeo and regrets not being a doomsday prepper. Meanwhile, Jonnie makes some new friends at a petting zoo and ponders being chased by 25-foot chickens. Plus, a conversation about Main Character Syndrome, victim mentality, and how to know whether you are being persecuted or just disagreed with. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored…

John tells us the secret to happiness and gives his daughter (and himself) a birthday gift. Meanwhile, Jonnie takes a bucket list trip with his 84-year old father in law and comes up with a new way to get people to look at positive news stories. Plus, a conversation about the laziness of contrarianism and why we will be remembered for what we built…

John tells us why he would be a terrible NASCAR driver and the boys argue over whether professional wrestlers are athletes or actors. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a run-in with the cops because he forgets his phone and tells the story of NBC’s diabolical plan to get people to buy color TVs in the 1950s. Plus, a conversation about worry and the importance …

John goes to extreme lengths to stop his snoring and attracts some local females. Meanwhile, Jonnie’s poor eyesight almost causes a scene at the grocery store. Plus, a conversation about letting go of our need for vengeance, and our inclination towards moral superiority. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Professional Wrestling : “Ironically less …

John ponders what the best accent is and wants to bring back the word “comeuppance.” Meanwhile, Jonnie takes his first red-eye flight and tells the story of the time Johnny Carson saved the game Twister from extinction. Plus, a conversation about bias and why it so easy to make a hasty judgment before hearing all sides. Today’s episode is NOT spons…

John changes his mind about lunchmeat and gets kicked out of a football game. Meanwhile, Jonnie turns the tables on a police officer, and tells the tale of the “Human Fish.” Plus, a conversation about self-esteem and the balance between knowing our value vs. over-inflating it. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Coffee: “You just woke up. Quick, po…

John threatens someone with a loaded broccoli and tells us why not to look a gift horse in the mouth. Meanwhile, Jonnie learns about redundant colons and gives his review of the newly re-styled Cracker Barrel. Plus, a conversation about success and happiness and why they are not usually the same thing. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Your Favor…

John gets a ’67 Mustang and some pointy sideburns, and wonders if relatives can see us from heaven. Meanwhile, Jonnie wonders how long he could stand on one foot and ponders why having your accomplishments forgotten is actually a huge relief. Plus, a conversation about living by a standard vs. being ruled by our feelings or the actions of others. T…

John preaches the day before the eclipse and DOES NOT reference it in his sermon. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells the story of a presidential candidate who lost an entire state because of the way he ate a tamale. Plus, a conversation about the American obsession with End Times prophecies and our human need to know things that cannot be fully understood. To…

John reads some listener emails and gets his writing into The Bible (but not like a heretic, we promise). Meanwhile, Jonnie is starting to fear Artificial Intelligence and tells the story of the craziest coincidence ever. Plus, a conversation about how tolerance and compromise is actually rooted in early Christianity. Today’s episode is NOT sponsor…

John tells us what NOT to say in a fight with your wife and that we basically drink orange juice for breakfast because of a government contract during World War II. Meanwhile, Jonnie has a dumb idea for church drum cages and has a conflicted relationship with his team’s colors. Plus, a conversation about people doing good while working in a flawed …

John heads to Las Vegas to help his daughter jump higher and gets scolded while gambling exactly one dollar. Meanwhile, Jonnie gets his computer stolen at a pastor’s conference and tells us about the time a woman got quarantined for life because she wouldn’t stop cooking. Plus, a conversation about faith as a lens by which we see the world. Today’s…

John makes an awkward joke on primary Election Day and has a magical (and questionable) encounter with a bald eagle. Meanwhile, Jonnie plans a weekend of comedy shows in the path of the coming eclipse, which may lead to him sleeping in his car. Plus, a conversation about compatibility in marriage and why it’s not necessarily the most important thin…

John wonders what happened to the roadside Rocket in Huntsville, AL and tells us which states are the most stressed out. Meanwhile, Jonnie releases an old comedy clip and somehow finds the angriest people in Iowa. Plus, a conversation about regaining a sense of wonder and what it really means to have “faith like a child.” Today’s episode is NOT spo…

John gets a go-kart and embarrasses his daughter with a “cool” handshake routine. Meanwhile, Jonnie jumps over the neighborhood kids with his bike and tells the story of a basketball player who saved a dolphin’s life in the weirdest way possible. Plus, a conversation about the importance of taking risks and why a careful life is more empty than one…

John gets the flu and makes Jonnie sing the highest harmony notes ever at his wedding. Meanwhile, Jonnie ambushes John’s former teenage celebrity crush for a cruise ship selfie, and tells the story of Abe Lincoln becoming buddies with a guy who wanted to kill him. Plus, a conversation about how to disagree with someone without dehumanizing them. To…

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John gets jealous at a Boyz II Men Concert and teaches us about Neuroplasticity. Meanwhile, Jonnie gives his band’s demo CD to Tobymac in hopes of a record deal, and ponders what it would be like to officiate the wedding of Kevin Bacon. Plus, a conversation about the power of positivity and giving our spouse the benefit of the doubt, and the danger…

John offers a chimpanzee a promotion at NASA, and travels back in time to Meet Alexander Hamilton, and neither goes well. Meanwhile, Jonnie reveals the one thing you don’t do on a tour bus and ponders the time that Russia skipped the first two weeks of February. Plus, a conversation about performing under intense pressure, and the most important qu…

John puts all his memories in the cloud and begs Jonnie not to tell him the score of the game. Meanwhile, Jonnie performs in front of 16,000 people and hurts himself playing ice hockey. Plus, a conversation about toxic hustle culture, and finding the delicate balance between self-improvement and contentment. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by TikT…

John worries about Jonnie driving in the snow, and considers getting his PhD. Meanwhile, Jonnie talks to his Uber driver and immediately regrets it, and ponders drinking from a boot. Plus, a conversation about the Illuminati and other conspiracies, our collective need for gossip and secrets, and what it says about our culture. Today’s episode is NO…

John has a power trip as a camp counselor, but gets humbled by the Lord of the Landfill. Meanwhile, Jonnie licks windowsills and ponders his questionable clothing choices in the 90’s. Plus a conversation about the difference between talent and genius. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Pickleball: “Hope you’ve already met your insurance deductible…

John plans to live to be 100 and drives on the emergency shoulder on Christmas. Meanwhile, Jonnie takes issue with the ending of Back to the Future and says something to a traffic cop that gets him pulled out of the car. Plus, a conversation about resolutions, vices, and remaining at peace with our neighbors. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Vit…

John tells us about the perils of recording an audiobook and unveils the latest theme music for his “Quote of the Week” segment. Meanwhile, Jonnie writes love poems for a girl he isn’t even interested in and tells us about the time bathtubs got banned. Plus, a conversation about the problems with modern content creation and how legacy artists like …

John can’t stop replacing dead fish for his daughter and tells us the three words every parent dreads at Christmas. Meanwhile, Jonnie buys way too many coats and reveals his least favorite Christmas song. Plus, a conversation about irresponsible use of a public platform and how lies in print can have real world implications. Today’s episode is NOT …

John reassures Jonnie about his use of text emojis and admits he can’t multitask. Meanwhile, Jonnie finds a car wash with the dumbest name ever and tells the story of the original Doorbuster Christmas toy: the Cabbage Patch Doll. Plus, a conversation about how to be a better listener and learner. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Egg Nog: “Only a…

John comes up with a brand new drug, and tells us about General Custer. Meanwhile, Jonnie goes on tour with Nate Bargatze in his hometown of Knoxville, triggering anxiety about bombing in front of old friends and family. Plus, a conversation about enlightenment and the balance between living our lives and sharing our lives. Today’s episode is NOT s…

John kisses dating goodbye, and tells us the one thing NOT to say in an argument. Meanwhile, Jonnie celebrates the inventor of the shopping cart, and the honorable Judge Wapner. Plus, a conversation about toxic hindsight and why it’s easier to be a critic than a creator. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Cranberry Sauce: “Much like your extended …

John discovers the subtle difference between prison inmates and referees, and unveils a new jingle candidate for his Quote of the Week segment. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders whether ancient philosophers would’ve been discouraged if they had put their ideas on Facebook and tells the story of Oprah Winfrey and a wheelbarrow full of fat. Plus, a conversat…

John has a meeting with his inner committee and kills bugs for fun at dinner parties. Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn’t like moving around onstage and tells us the unfortunate words uttered by the recipient of the first X-Ray. Plus, a conversation about angst, assertiveness, and whether some anxiety is actually a privilege. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored…

John meets an archaeologist and steals gasoline. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders Halloween candy bowl etiquette and gives the telltale signs of a bad hotel room. Plus, a conversation about creativity and how to know when it’s time to stop editing your work. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Blackout Drapes: “Let the neighbors know you’ve updated your p…

John reminisces about Hypercolor t-shirts in the 90s and keeps an inferior product because it’s too expensive to return it. Meanwhile, Jonnie wants to bring back neckerchiefs, gives a $20 tip to a comedian for a perfect joke about Dawson’s Creek, and tells the story about the time France launched a cat into space. Plus, a conversation about how to …

John picks up a hitchhiker and has a missed connection at a Michael Bolton concert. Meanwhile, Jonnie doesn’t like his resting face and can’t find the southeast entrance of any building. Plus, a conversation about taking constructive criticism and being able to appreciate another artist’s work without feeling threatened. Today’s episode is NOT spon…

John ponders writing a cookbook and tells us what NOT to do if you are officiating a wedding. Meanwhile, Jonnie tells a risky joke at a megachurch and has a microphone literally taped to his face. Plus, a conversation about Holy Communion and why it’s important to our faith. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Honey®️: “Delicious and nutritious. Al…

John shouts at the clouds about the return of a certain hairstyle and tries to come up with photoshoot poses that aren’t awkward. Meanwhile, Jonnie accidentally steals someone else’s luggage on a road trip and tells the story of the world’s foremost school for department store Santas. Plus, a conversation about honor culture and the fine line betwe…

John stays way too long at the butter pump and yearns for a simpler time when our superheroes could be a bit pudgier. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares some of his pet peeves while traveling and tells the epic story of the man who played a chess match to save his own life. Plus, a conversation about how getting older can make us more contemplative when it c…

John creates a death metal boy band and ponders what would be on our podcasts official Bingo Card. Meanwhile, Jonnie has difficulty rolling his Rs and takes a moment to honor the 80s TV star who went skiing and gave us all a brand new catch phrase. Plus, a conversation about being centered and why doing the right thing is important, even if the res…

John is self conscious of his squeaky shoes, and writes a song about dying frogs. Meanwhile, Jonnie auditions for the celebrity judges on America’s Got Talent and gets nauseous at Dollywood. Plus, a conversation about our need for control and the importance of trusting God in uncertain times. Todays episode is NOT sponsored by Squirrels: “We’re jus…

John tries living in the moment and thinks Jonnie is exactly 10% too negative. Meanwhile, Jonnie shares a hypothesis about why conspiracy theories exploded the past few years and tells the tale of the WWII pilot who had no legs, and used it as an advantage. Plus, a conversation about the dangers of isolation and why we need each other now more than…

John tries to be the “cool teacher” and thinks Jonnie takes too much Tylenol. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the old Super Glue commercial with the construction worker and “tells tales out of school,” whatever that means. Plus, a conversation about the Beatitudes and what it really means to be a person of meekness. Today’s episode is NOT sponsored by Bu…

John meets a pizza delivering robot and wears house shoes to climb Everest. Meanwhile, Jonnie keeps his shoes on way too long and tells the story of the time Picasso was accused of stealing the Mona Lisa. Plus, a conversation about why fulfillment is so elusive and why it’s easier to be creative while at play than under pressure. Today’s episode is…

John makes an apology video from the high seas and somehow makes it worse. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the origin of reality prank shows and tells the story of how two beloved Hollywood stars were almost taken out by makeup. Plus, a conversation about fame, talent, and why humans weren’t meant to be worshipped. Today’s episode IS sponsored by “Dead B…

John tries to come up with a new name for “potluck dinners” and has an idea to revolutionize frozen yogurt shops. Meanwhile, Jonnie has questions about an Olympic sledding event and tells the story of Clara Peller, the actress from Wendy’s “Where’s The Beef” commercials in the 1980’s. Plus, a conversation about what it means to have faith like a ch…

John puts on his baggiest rayon pants and tells the story of a rogue gang of cursing parrots. Meanwhile, Jonnie ponders the phrase “goody two shoes” and feels a special calling to the luxury resort community. Plus, a conversation about enlightenment and how our continuing knowledge of the universe should deepen our faith, but sometimes has the oppo…

John digitally tracks his family and gets invited to speak at an Episcopal church... (for about 11 minutes). Meanwhile, Jonnie thinks professional wrestlers and standup comedians have a lot in common and reveals the coldest day in history. Plus, the boys talk about meeting each other 28 years ago, how early is too early to hug, and the incredibly d…