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#121 - The Intersection of Urban Planning and Design Systems: Insights from Andii Hei
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Explore the unique parallels between urban planning and design systems with Andii Hei. Discover how cities and digital landscapes share principles of structure, adaptability, and creative constraints. Andii offers insights into how these connections reveal new ways to think about system design, collaboration…
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#120 - From Designer to Design System Leader: Insights from Allison Shaw's Career Journey
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. On today's episode of The Design Systems Podcast, Allison Shaw, Director of Design at Adobe, shares insights from her expansive journey in design systems. From her early days modernizing Yelp’s desktop experience to her pivotal roles at Zendesk and Adobe, Allison talks openly about transitioning from a desig…
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#119 - Rethinking Design Consistency: Debating Tokens vs. Components with ADPs Alice Preisler
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Are components a necessary part of a design system? In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, Alice Preisler, the Product Owner of Design System at ADP challenges the idea that all design systems start with a component library. Alice and host, Chris Strahl discuss what starting with documentation and de…
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#118 - Reusability, Collaboration, and Empathy: Catalina Manea on Bridging Design and Development to Build Applications with Design Systems"
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. On today's episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we hear from Catalina Manea, Senior Designer at Spelunk, about the crucial intersection of design and development. Catalina shares her journey from graphic design to product and systems design, providing insights into the importance of reusability, cross-func…
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Why Kate Moran Thinks Humans Are Essential to the Future of Generative UI and AI.
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. What does the future of UX look like? In today's episode, our host, Chris Strahl, sits down with Kate Moran, the VP of Research and Content at Nielsen Norman Group. They explore the promise of hyper-personalized experiences, the challenges of resource limitations, and the innovative potential of AI in accele…
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116 - Designed for success: How Guy Segal Built a Design System that Product Teams Want to Use.
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, Chris Strahl welcomes Guy Segal, the director of digital ecosystem and design systems at Thomson Reuters. Guy shares his experience of building a design system that serves over 150+ brands and the importance of having a point of view when you are working to brin…
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115 - Design System Sources of Truth: Transparency and Collaboration with Dropbox’s Mark Shuster
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. It’s all just opinions, man! In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, Mark Shuster talks about the shift away from enforcing strict guidelines through design systems towards enabling good design and production practices in a more transparent and collaborative way. Chris and Mark discuss different sourc…
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114 - Design Systems and Ways of Working: Nick Hahn on Collaboration, Adoption, and AI
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. This week we are joined by Nick Hahn to explore how designers, engineers, product managers, and entire organizations have changed the way they think about and work with design systems. Nick shares insight from his experiences at IBM, InVision, Meta, and Bill.com to highlight the importance of collaboration, …
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113 - Config 2024: Highlights and Hot Takes with Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Recording during Config 2024, this bonus episode of The Design Systems Podcast features long-time friends of the Pod, Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye. They share their fresh takes on the latest Figma keynote, including the buzz around AI-generated designs and the revamped Figma UI. The conversation explores the…
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112 - Creating Effective Design Systems for Small and Mid-Size Companies: Apiture’s Journey
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Today’s episode features Ashley Willard and Sarah Kimball (Skim) from Apiture, a smallish fintech company with big enterprise ambitions for its design system. Host Christ Strahl chats with Ashley and Skim about the challenges and opportunities their small team faces trying to navigate the complexities of bui…
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111 - How AI is Revolutionizing Design Systems and Customer Experiences with Dave Calleja
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl welcomes Dave Calleja back to the podcast to discuss the changing nature of design systems, integrating AI into the human creative process, and how to use behavior data for real-time design adaptations. Dave shares his views on the importance of design systems to customer experiences and how mod…
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110 - The Evolution of ServiceNow's Design System with Meredith Van Lier
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Today on the podcast, we talk to Meredith Van Lier, the director of product management at ServiceNow. Chris and Meredith discuss the unique evolution of ServiceNow's design system and its shift towards a more flexible and user-centric design approach, emphasizing collaboration, automation, and accessibility.…
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109. Making Design Systems Inclusive with Accessibility Specialist Daniel Henderson-Ede
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Welcome to another episode of The Design Systems Podcast! In honor of Global Accessibility Awareness Day, we're thrilled to have Daniel Henderson-Ede, an accessibility specialist, here to discuss the need for and challenges of making inclusive design experiences for those with disabilities, and how design sy…
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108. U.S. Bank’s Beau Ulrey on Building Trust Through Design Systems
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. On this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we're thrilled to have Beau Ulrey, the Design System Manager at U.S. Bank, join host Chris Strahl live at the Kiln space in Portland. Today’s episode deep dives into the intricate world where design meets development. Beau will share his fascinating journey from…
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107. The Evolution of IBM's Carbon Design System with Scott Strubberg
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join host Chris Strahl as he welcomes our guest Scott Strubberg to the Design Systems Podcast. Scott is a product manager and a key figure behind IBM's Carbon Design System. Today’s conversation unravels the complexities and innovations of integrating brand consistency across digital and physical realms. Chr…
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106. Brad Frost on Adaptable Design Systems
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. We sit down with Brad Frost, a leading voice in design systems. Together, we explore the critical intersection between adaptable design systems and brand identities, unveiling the secrets to creating components that not only function seamlessly across platforms but also resonate with diverse brand aesthetics…
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105. Ranjeet Tayi from Informatica: AI-Driven Design
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Informatica's design and AI director, Ranjeet Tayi doing us on the Design Systems Podcast to discuss AI's transformative impact on design systems, elucidating the shift from static products to dynamic, personalized AI-driven experiences. Chris and Ranjeet navigate through the intricacies of AI's influence on…
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104. Shawn Cheris from Adobe: Spectrum 2 Design System and AI’s Role in the Future of Design
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris and Shawn explore how design tools shape final products, emphasizing the crucial role of managing elements like forms and tables. Shawn shares insights on uniting Adobe departments for greater cohesion and how Spectrum 2 reflects organizational change. They discuss AI integration in design interfaces, …
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103. Nate Baldwin from Intuit: Multi-Brand Theming in Complex Organizations
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we explore the intricate world of theme management in complex design systems at Intuit. Nate Baldwin, Principal Designer at Intuit, shares a revolutionary framework for design tokens, enhancing governance and accessibility. We learn about Figma's role in color s…
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102. David Müller: Intentional Breakpoints and AI Insights
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we invite you to join us as we engage in a conversation with David Müller, a product designer and design systems lead at one of the world’s top financial institutions. Together, we dive deep into the intricate landscape of banking systems, exploring the complexi…
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101. PJ Onori of Pinterest/Disney: Design Systems Shifting the Productivity Paradigm
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. PJ Onori, a design systems veteran since 2011 and a driving force behind Pinterest's Gestalt system, talks about the transformative impact of design systems on product development, potentially reshaping the job landscape in design and engineering. In this episode, PJ recounts a pivotal experience at Disney, …
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100. Brian Dorsey on Design and Engineering Synergy at Mastercard
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join us for a milestone episode of The Design Systems Podcast, featuring Brian Dorsey, a key contributor to Mastercard's groundbreaking design system MADE. Explore how integrating designers into infrastructure teams has revolutionized collaboration. Discover how Mastercard leverages its design system to driv…
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99. Jackie Lai, Lead UX Designer at OPIS Dow Jones, on Creating Future-Proof Systems
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. On this episode of DSP, we welcome guest Jackie Lai, a lead UX designer at OPIS, a Dow Jones company, with a rich background in interactive and product design. Explore Jackie's diverse design journey from web to physical products and the transformation of design tools. Discover the importance of cross-functi…
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98. Exploring Alexandrian Patterns in Design Systems with Kevin Muldoon at Dow Jones
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of The Design Systems Podcast, we’re joined by guest Kevin Muldoon, Lead Design Technologist/Design Systems at Dow Jones, to discuss the concepts of alexandrian patterns and their application in design systems. We explore the idea of themes as reusable objects to solve specific design problem…
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97. Curt Schreiber, CCO at VSA, on Building Global Design Systems for Scale
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Curt Schreiber, Chief Creative Officer at VSA Partners, joins us for a compelling conversation on the multifaceted nature of design systems. We explore how these intricate frameworks must cater to a diverse array of users and stakeholders, highlighting the need for design systems to personify the organizatio…
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96. Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye: Navigating Career Pathways in Design Systems
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Jina Anne and Adekunle Oduye join host Chris Strahl in a candid conversation that explores career pathways within the evolving realm of design systems amidst the latest market conditions. They share valuable insights on how the key to thriving in uncertain times is through understanding the nuanced dance bet…
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95. Matt Weinberg, Sr. Product Designer at Angi: Empathy-First Approach to Evolving Design Systems
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. In this episode of the Design Systems Podcast, we discuss the evolution of design systems with special guest Matt Weinberg, Senior Product Designer at Angi. Matt has a passion for empathy-driven design solutions and shares his unconventional career path that led him to tackle the challenge of refining and im…
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94. Josh Clark, Founder of Big Medium: Scaling Digital Strategy Within Complex Organizations
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Josh Clark and Chris Strahl dive into an in-depth discussion about navigating the digital landscape amidst economic unpredictability. They discuss the intricacies of building and maintaining design systems in large organizations, addressing the challenges of scaling, and emphasizing the strategic value of di…
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93. Nathan Curtis, Co-founder of EightShapes: Balancing reuse and customization in UI Design
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Nathan Curtis as he explores the delicate balance between reusing existing components and creating customized solutions in UI design. They unpack the complexities of design systems, touching on everything from color selection to ensuring functional and aesthetic harmony, providing insi…
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Ep 92. Lisa Apers Independent Designer and Researcher: Tailoring UIs with brainwaves for personalized user experiences
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl as he sits with Lisa Apers, a visionary in UI design, as she presents her innovative research on brainwave-responsive user interfaces. Explore how EEG sensors integrated into UIs can revolutionize our digital experiences, creating interfaces that dynamically adapt to individual cognitive st…
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91. Designing diversity: Crafting tiered systems for a global market with Tim Banker at Slalom Consulting
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl and Tim Banker on an exciting dive into the world of innovative design systems. They explore the creation of tailored solutions for a diverse range of global markets, showcasing how a 'system of systems' approach can meet various needs, from marketing to transactional experiences. Get ready…
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90. The innovation triad: Needs, coverage and adoption with Alex Wilson and Jon Reidy at T. Rowe Price
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl as he sits with Alex Wilson and Jon Reidy as they discuss their approach to evolving with community demands at T. Rowe Price. Dive into the dynamic process of identifying what drives your customers, crafting solutions that resonate, and ensuring widespread adoption of these innovations. Vie…
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89. Metrics matter: Harnessing usage data for adoption, coverage, efficiency, and quality with Maya Hampton at REI
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl and Maya Hampton as they unpack the power of usage data and its pivotal role in driving adoption, efficiency, and quality. Dive deep, discover the real value of design systems, and see how every component counts! View the transcript of this episode here. Register here for our upcoming webin…
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88. Beyond isolation: Harmonizing products in a design ecosystem with JJ Rogers at Watermark
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl and JJ Rogers, as they explore the challenges and triumphs of harmonizing diverse products at Watermark, highlighting how a harmonized ecosystem elevates user experience and ensures consistent design across all platforms. View the transcript of this episode here. Check out our upcoming even…
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87. Designing success: Crafting principles for passkey adoption with Kevin Goldman and Sierre Wolfkostin at FIDO Alliance
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl, Kevin Goldman, and Sierre Wolfkostin as they sit down to explore the Fido Alliance's mission of revolutionizing online authentication by eliminating traditional passwords and replacing them with secure and user-friendly passkeys. Discover how these principles, tested and proven, are set to…
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86. From consistency to contribution: How design systems grow trees with Jay Smith at REI
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Jay Smith as they unravel the secrets of REI's design system consistency. Uncover how their groundbreaking approach to design, colors, and tokens is reshaping standards. With an eco-friendly twist: for every contribution to the system, trees are planted. As the system grows, so does a …
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85. Driving speed and consistency: The power of design systems in startups with Jamie Totten at Klue
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Jamie Totten from Klue and they unpack the unique challenges and benefits of implementing a design system in a fast-paced startup. Drawing inspiration from Spotify's "guild format", they emphasize the importance of voluntary commitment, maintaining positivity and on making the most wit…
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84. Digital typography: Suggesting, not dictating with Juli Sombat at Spotify and Jason Pamental at Chewy
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Juli Sombat from Spotify and Jason Pamental from Chewy as they unravel the evolution of digital typography, emphasizing the shift from dictation to suggestion. They explore the dynamic between designers and users and the transformative power of user customization. View the transcript o…
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83. Breaking silos and enhancing teamwork in design systems with Tony Pantello and Chris Henke at Accutech
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl sits with Tony Pantello and Chris Henke who tackle the age-old conflict between design and development. They discuss harnessing the power of design systems to streamline collaboration, conquer inefficiency, and unlock the true potential of their teams. View the transcript of this episode here. R…
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82. Design system revamp: Unpacking Monster's UX odyssey with Billea Breen
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl and Billea Breen explore the essential interaction between design and development to craft a flawless user experience, offering tactics to maintain consistency and enhance workflows. View the transcript of this episode here. Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘What Really Matters in Design …
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81. Embracing change with Mark Reynolds, Design System Consultant: How design and engineering roles are evolving in design systems
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl and Mark Reynolyds navigate the ever-changing world of design systems, exploring the idea that design and engineering roles will become more aligned in the near future. View the transcript of this episode here. Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Complex Ecosystems’ with Donnie D…
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80. Bridging Code & Creativity with Kevin Broich at Cisco
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl talks with Kevin Broich about his transition from backend developer to designer at Cisco. Kevin shares insights on creating a crucial CSS-based UI kit for Cisco's major rebranding phase and more. View the transcript of this episode here. Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Theming in Comple…
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79. Inside Pinterest's Gestalt System with Product Designers, Kate Halvorsen and Cintia Romero: A community-centric approach
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris Strahl chats with Kate and Cinita on Pinterest's design system, Gestalt. Learn how their team built a system prioritizing documentation, inclusivity and accessibility. A space designed to ensure global and remote activity, encouraging users to easily contribute and communicate effectively. View the tra…
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78. Bridging the design-code gap at Meta, a multidisciplinary approach with Sriram Ramasubramanian
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Join Chris Strahl as he sits down with Sriram Ramasubramanian from Meta to discuss the intricacies of designing at scale. Dive deep into the world of design systems, Figma plugins, design tokens, and the challenges of interoperability across multiple platforms. View the transcript of this episode here. Regis…
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77. Robin Cannon, Executive Director and Head of Design System at J.P. Morgan: Creating an environment that encourages and builds trust with design systems
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Chris and Robin discuss creating an environment and ecosystem where people are excited to use design systems; and the importance these systems have when encouraging trust and accountability to assist teams with their work. View the transcript of this episode here. Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘The…
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76. Christophe Coutzoukis Design System Lead: Building Thriving Design System Communities
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Christophe and Chris discuss the art of building thriving design system communities. They share their profound insights and experiences, offering valuable perspectives on fostering vibrant and inclusive communities that flourish with creativity and collaboration. View the transcript of this episode here. Reg…
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75. Adam Sedwick Senior Product Manager: Harnessing the power of design systems to unify your team
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Adam and Chris discuss the power of design systems and their ability to break down barriers between designers and developers. View the transcript of this episode here. Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘Introducing Knapsack V4: A Powerful Update for a Future-Ready Experience,’ July 26th at 1 pm (ET) an…
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74. Richard Banfield, Advisor & Recovering CEO: What does iterative work look like in design systems?
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Richard and Chris discuss iterative work and how integral thinking by doing is when progressing work forward. View the transcript of this episode here. Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘AI in Design Systems’ on June 28th, 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT). Guest Professionally, I express myself through creatin…
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73. Sheryl Cababa Chief Strategy Officer at Substantial: Using system thinking to make informed decisions
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Sheryl and Chris discuss the complexities of the design system space as it involves human behaviours. View the transcript of this episode here. Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘AI in Design Systems’ on June 28th, 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT). Guest Sheryl Cababa is the author of Closing the Loop: Systems…
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72. Danielle MacDonald Creative Head, Digital Product Design: Designing to scale
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Send us feedback or episode suggestions. Danielle and Chris discuss the impact designing at scale will have on ROI. View the transcript of this episode here. Register here for our upcoming webinar, ‘AI in Design Systems’ on June 28th, 1 pm (ET) and 10 am (PT). Guest Danielle MacDonald is a design leader and self-proclaimed design systems geek, with…
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