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Tangent 💚 Proptech

Edward Cohen, Jeff Berman & Zach Aarons

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A podcast community for Proptech and Real Estate leaders, investors, operators and innovators. A new era is upon us. Tangent💚Proptech unites Proptech founders💡, Real Estate investors and operators🏢, Venture Capital investors, urban leaders🏙 and passionate creators🌎 who are improving our communities and cities. Join us to learn how we can solve present day challenges with innovative technology and greater collaboration. Join VC investors Jeffrey Berman and Zach Aarons, and Proptech entreprene ...
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Hello, my name is Susie. I started the Inside Out Series because I wanted to encourage lighthearted and relatable conversations around anything and everything taboo! Each episode will feature a guest speaker; we’ll get down to the nitty gritty of what’s going on in their lives and then play a game of life on a desert island…hopefully one day we’ll have a mailbag too! You can find us on Instagram @susieflory or please email [email protected] for any inquiries. Thank you so much for listening!
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TBPN

John Coogan & Jordi Hays

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TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays from 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with full episodes posted to Spotify immediately after airing. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” TBPN has interviewed Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, Mark Cuban, and Satya Nadella. Diet TBPN delivers the best moments from each episode in under 30 minutes.
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Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in under 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Ma…
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(00:32) - xAI's $20B Series E (13:36) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (25:34) - Semafor's $30M Funding (31:19) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (53:37) - The Decline of the American Technology Industry (01:10:07) - Boston Biotech Bubble Bursts (01:14:46) - OpenAI Launches ChatGPT Health (01:27:36) - Vincenzo Landino, founder and managing director of Business of Speed…
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Tzvika Graiver is the co-founder and CEO of RoboChute, the company reinventing how buildings manage trash chutes using smart, autonomous robots. With a background in law and a deep commitment to environmental innovation, Tzvika brings a unique blend of strategic insight and operational grit to the built world. RoboChute’s system proactively cleans,…
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Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in under 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Ma…
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(02:19) - The Death of the Tech Conference (23:27) - Dimon Launches Deregulation Blitz (27:49) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:16:29) - Casey Newton, an American technology journalist and founder of the Platformer newsletter, discusses his investigation into a viral Reddit post alleging unethical practices by food delivery companies, which was later rev…
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Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in under 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Ma…
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(02:25) - Dan Wang's Annual Letter (43:08) - Meta Acquires Manus (59:33) - Nvidia's $20B Groq Deal (01:10:48) - Doordash Responds to Reddit Firestorm (01:43:53) - California Wealth Tax Targets Billionaires (02:00:54) - Scott Belsky's 12 Outlooks for the Future (02:27:20) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (02:32:31) - Justin Mares, co-founder and CEO of Trueme…
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Its the first of January and It’s safe to say, this episode will completely blow your mind, let alone offer you lifelong tips which will transform your understanding of happiness. If you haven’t heard of TJ power, and even if you have, you’re in for a treat. TJ is an author, neuroscientist and speaker whose message is changing lives. If you’re stuc…
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Just when Janie thought life might be slowing down (and many of her friends were embracing retirement), she unexpectedly became a social media sensation — and influencer — almost overnight. Today’s guest is Susie’s content partner and best friend, Janie. The pair’s friendship might seem somewhat unusual, particularly with a 45-year age gap and the …
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Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in under 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Ma…
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(00:25) - 2025 in Review (17:34) - TikTok's $50B Profit (22:34) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (24:27) - Michael Truell & Merrill Lutsky, co-founder and CEO of Anysphere, leads the company behind Cursor, an AI-powered code editor that has rapidly gained prominence in the software development industry. In the conversation, Truell discusses the integration o…
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Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in under 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Ma…
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(00:30) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (05:02) - OpenAI in talks at $750B (08:56) - WB Board Questions Paramount's Funding Stability (23:03) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (55:03) - Brian Armstrong and Tarek Mansour are the co-founders of Coinbase, one of the world’s largest cryptocurrency platforms. Armstrong, a former Airbnb engineer, serves as CEO and has been …
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Eliza Lochner is a seasoned marketing leader with experience spanning Fortune 500 companies and high-growth startups. She leads global marketing for Airbnb’s real estate development partnerships and new supply initiatives, including the Airbnb Friendly Apartments program, which helps renters earn supplemental income while giving property owners tra…
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Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in under 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Ma…
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(02:12) - Ford's EV Reality Check (21:03) - Amazon x OpenAI (33:13) - Kushner Drops WB Bid (39:53) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (57:33) - Sarah Guo is the founder and managing partner of Conviction, an early-stage venture firm focused on backing transformative software and AI companies. She’s known for combining deep technical fluency with a strong produ…
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Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in under 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Ma…
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(00:55) - Viral WSJ 'You Don't Need a Storyteller' Piece (28:52) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (34:03) - ChatGPT Images 1.5 (46:05) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:00:44) - Coreweave Tests AI Market Hype (01:11:40) - The Price of Ford's EV Push (01:19:58) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:30:32) - Karri Saarinen, co-founder and CEO of Linear, a project management too…
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Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in under 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Ma…
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(04:53) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (56:21) - Evan Spiegel is the co-founder and CEO of Snap Inc., best known for creating Snapchat, the camera-driven social platform he helped launch while still a Stanford student, and has since become one of the youngest self-made billionaires in tech while steering Snap’s evolution into an augmented-reality–focused c…
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The Inside Out series is back — and certainly with a bang. This week’s guest is overnight social media sensation and now best-selling author, Natalia Rudin. Yes, Nat had “one lucky video” that went viral, but don’t be dissuaded — behind that video were years of hard work. Nat joins Susie to discuss everything from her natural drive and the food ind…
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(02:12) - Disney’s $1B OpenAI Bet (26:57) - GPT 5.2 Reactions (40:53) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (58:46) - Mike Swan, owner and managing broker of Swan Land Company, specializes in ranch, farm, and recreational land sales across the Rocky Mountain West. In the conversation, he discusses the enduring appeal of land investments in the western United Stat…
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(00:36) - SpaceX IPO (29:55) - Oracle Slides (43:16) - Disney x OpenAI (55:38) - Dylan Byers, a founding partner and senior correspondent at Puck, covers the media industry, including business and gossip. He discusses the media's tendency toward self-obsession, highlighting how minor gossip can overshadow significant industry events. Byers also exa…
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(00:28) - H200 Exports Resume (07:20) - China-Linked AI Chip Smuggling (14:43) - Joe Weisenthal, born September 2, 1980, in Detroit, Michigan, is an American journalist and television presenter, currently serving as the executive editor of news for Bloomberg's digital brands and co-host of the "Odd Lots" podcast. In the conversation, he discusses t…
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(00:20) - Ellison's Counter Offer (18:23) - Chinese H200s (32:18) - Data Centers in Space (42:30) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:01:24) - Aaron Ginn is the CEO and Co-Founder of Hydra Host, a company specializing in high-performance computing infrastructure. In the conversation, he discusses the importance of the United States engaging pragmatically wi…
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Our favorite moments from today's show, in under 30 minutes. TBPN.com is made possible by: Ramp - https://ramp.com Figma - https://figma.com Vanta - https://vanta.com Linear - https://linear.app Eight Sleep - https://eightsleep.com/tbpn Wander - https://wander.com/tbpn Public - https://public.com AdQuick - https://adquick.com Bezel - https://getbez…
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(01:57) - Rich Greenfield, a partner and media analyst at LightShed Partners, discusses the complexities of the ongoing bidding war between Netflix and Paramount for Warner Bros., highlighting the antitrust implications and the evolving competitive landscape in the streaming industry. He emphasizes that defining the market narrowly to only include …
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(00:43) - Netflix to Acquire Warner Bros. (21:04) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (40:44) - Keith Rabois is a veteran Silicon Valley operator and investor, known for senior roles at PayPal, LinkedIn, and Square, and as a general partner at top venture firms including Khosla Ventures and Founders Fund. He’s recognized for his sharp strategic instincts, contr…
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(01:40) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (34:00) - Jim Cramer is the host of CNBC’s Mad Money and co-founder of TheStreet. A former hedge fund manager, he became one of the most recognizable financial commentators in the U.S., known for his energetic style and market analysis. Cramer continues to cover stocks, investing trends, and business news across telev…
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(01:23) - Will AWS Buy TPUs From Google? (20:51) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (46:33) - Harj Taggar, a Managing Partner at Y Combinator and co-founder of Triplebyte and Auctomatic, discusses the evolving landscape for startups, highlighting the increased ease of selling to both government entities and Fortune 500 companies. He emphasizes that the choice …
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Kenneth Hochhauser is Partner and Head of Data and Analytics at RTL. His background includes roles as a retail executive at Macy’s and GNC and as a small business and economic development officer for the City of New York. He has advised both tenants and landlords on site selection, trade area analysis, and retail strategy, including introducing Chi…
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(00:19) - Papperger Pushes Rheinmetall to Top (13:35) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (16:11) - Anduril Says Failures are Part of Development (20:21) - 🔴 CODE RED 🔴 (38:35) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (56:20) - Stratechery: Gemini Spurs New AI Infra Race (01:30:37) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:42:23) - Matt Garman, CEO of Amazon Web Services (AWS), discussed sever…
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(00:16) - Alby Churven is a teenage entrepreneur from Sydney who, by age 14, has already founded Finkle, a gamified learning platform aimed at teaching teens coding, entrepreneurship, AI, and real-world skills. He began coding when he was six years old, and previously built Roblox games and a youth-oriented soccer brand before pitching Finkle to Y …
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(06:32) - Harley Finkelstein is the President of Shopify, helping lead the company’s global commerce strategy and long-term vision. He works closely with founders, brands, and entrepreneurs building businesses on the platform. Harley is also a prominent voice on entrepreneurship and the future of retail. (36:06) - Noel Mack is the Chief Brand Offic…
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(01:53) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (13:14) - Nvidia Responds to TPU Sales (22:15) - Trump Launches Genesis (25:40) - Trait-Based Embryo Selection Ethics Breakdown (45:17) - Cremieux, a critic of Nucleus Genomics' embryo selection product, discusses the company's misleading claims about their technology's capabilities, particularly in predicting complex…
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Kevin Shtofman is the Global Head of Alliances and Corporate Development at Cherre, a real estate data platform powering over $3.3 trillion in AUM. With 20+ years of experience across real estate, finance, and consulting, Kevin leads global initiatives to integrate and contextualize data from systems, third parties, and JV partners, helping investo…
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(02:06) - Reviewing the Best AI Apps (24:32) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (26:31) - Sholto Douglas, a Member of Technical Staff at Anthropic, discusses the launch of Claude Opus 4.5, highlighting its superior coding capabilities and efficiency in handling complex tasks. He emphasizes the model's advancements in vision understanding, particularly in inter…
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Diet TBPN delivers the best of today’s TBPN episode in under 30 minutes. TBPN is a live tech talk show hosted by John Coogan and Jordi Hays, streaming weekdays 11–2 PT on X and YouTube, with each episode posted to podcast platforms right after. Described by The New York Times as “Silicon Valley’s newest obsession,” the show has recently featured Ma…
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(00:11) - Eli Lilly Hits $1T Valuation (11:24) - Adobe to Buy Semrush for $1.9B (15:27) - Guide to the AI Barnyard (44:13) - AMD Chief Challenges Nvidia Dominance (57:13) - WSJ Mansion Section (01:04:30) - Has AI Ruined the Em Dash? (01:14:36) - 𝕏 Timeline Reactions (01:52:42) - Julia Steinberg, General Manager of Books and editor at Arena Magazine…
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