In the early days of Christianity, men and women fled to the desert and became the wisest sages of their era. Voices from the Desert explores how the wisdom of Ancient Christianity applies to our modern world. Where do the streams of historic Christianity intersect with contemporary Christianity? And how do we come to know God deep in our heart? Join Joshua Hoffert and Murray Dueck for a deep dive into the mystics, union with God, patristic theology and what it all means in our modern world.
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Which One: The Church as Moral Arbiter or Place of Healing?
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As we continue to dive into the concept of bridal intimacy in the church age, what implications does this have on how and why we "do church?" Some seem to think the church should be the moral arbiter of the age, the judicial witness to God's judgement, or the place of warfare against contemporary culture. But what if there is a different way? Join …
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Bonus Episode: Becoming a Non-Anxious Presence
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When we look at Jesus we see a stark contrast with our modern world. He does not seem rushed, he is not hurried, and he encourages us to become like little children. Have you ever watched a child lost in play? Time is a foreign concept to them. What would we look like if we could recapture what it means to live from the place of rest Christ promise…
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Divine Eros, Saint Symeon (and Bernard), Penal Substitutionary Atonement, and Looking Up
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How do our models of redemption reflect scripture? And how do the contemplative authors talk about redemption? Is penal substitutionary atonement a thing? Join Josh and Murray as they dive into Saint Symeon, the early church fathers, encountering God, and the gulf between models of redemption based upon wrath and models based upon love. For more ab…
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The Bridal Paradigm: When a bishop gawked at a sex symbol
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In the 4th century, Bishop Nonnus was asked why, when a beautiful woman passed him by, he stood and stared while the other bishops looked away. Nonnus' answer provides us insight as we dive deeper and deeper in the mystery of bridal intimacy and covenant union with God (the mysterious one). Tune in to this episode of "Voices from the Desert" as we …
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The Difference Between Information About God and Knowing God, another Bridal Paradigm Episode
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Another week, another episode of Voices from the Desert! Today, Murray and Josh continue their discussion about the Bride/Bridegroom paradigm. Scripture comes rushing to its conclusion in Revelation 21 when we see the bride as a city descending upon the earth to reign with God. Understanding this throughline is crucial for understanding scripture. …
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The Bridal Paradigm: Where is all this headed?
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What do you ese when you read scripture? When you see Jesus speaking of coming calamity in Matthew 24, do you wonder about the end times implication? What does the Jewish wedding celebration have to do with Jesus, prophecies, and the tenor of scripture? When Jesus showed upon the scene the nation of Israel was looking for a coming kingdom that woul…
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Unraveling Scripture: The Bridal Paradigm
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In the latest episode of Voices from the Desert, Joshua Hoffert and Murray Dueck explore the concept of bridal intimacy in Scripture. When the Pharisees expected a king, Jesus compared the kingdom to a wedding. This is a throughline in all of scripture. What would change about how we read certain passages if we saw it through the lens of bridal int…
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Embracing the Mystery of Faith: Part 2 of the Steve Stewart Interview
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In Part 2 of our interview with Steve Stewart of Impact Nations, we dive deeper into the desert journey of his heart and how it challenged all of his paradigms. The pivotal moments on his roadmap included burnout, the Charismatic move, and his rediscovery of the early church fathers. In the midst of the simplistic narratives in traditional evangeli…
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A Life Rescued: the story of Steve Stewart, Impact Nations, and Global Missions (Part 1)
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Welcome to Voices from the Desert, where we explore historic Christianity, the journey of the desert, and how God meets us in the deepest deserts of our hearts. In this episode, we are joined by the Steve Stewart, founder of Impact Nations, based in Albuquerque, New Mexico. Steve's journey from a conservative church upbringing, encountering the Hol…
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Bonus Episode: Unraveling the Mystery of Jesus with Murray Dueck
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In this special bonus episode recorded at the Samuel's Mantle school, join Murray Dueck's as he untangles the mystery behind Jesus as the Messiah. It's a biblical murder mystery and an FBI-like investigation into the disciples' beliefs where Murray delves into Old Testament prophecies, examining clashes between the disciples' expectations of an ear…
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The Spiritual Potency of the Persecuted Church: an interview with Greg Musselman Part 2
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Join us for Part 2 of the Voices from the Desert interview with Greg Musselman from Voice of the Martyrs. In this episode Murray, Greg, and Josh talk about the need for prophetic reform, when Christianity becomes too political, the gifts of the Spirit, and much more! For more about Greg and Voice of the Martyrs, visit: https://www.vomcanada.com/ Fo…
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The Spiritual Potency of the Persecuted Church: an interview with Greg Musselman Part 1
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In today's episode, "The Spiritual Potency of the Persecuted Church," we're diving into the experiences of those who stay strong in their faith, even when things get really hard. Our guest, Greg Musselman from "Voice of the Martyrs," knows a lot about this. He's spent a long time helping people who are persecuted for their beliefs. Tune in as Greg …
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Brain Skills, Relational Mode, and the Immanuel Lifestyle: an interview with Michael Sullivant Part 2
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Join hosts Joshua Hoffert and Murray Dueck in this episode of "Voices from the Desert" as they sit down for part 2 of an interview with Michael Sullivant to explore the intricacies of brain health, relational mode, and honing essential brain skills. Gain valuable perspectives on living a life deeply connected to the heart of Jesus, as Michael share…
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Life Model, Immanuel Approach, and Recovering our Mental Health: an interview with Michael Sullivant part 1
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What if your brain is wired in such a way that understanding the way your brain works could be a great aid in spiritual growth, healing of the heart, and mental health? What role does the Holy Spirit and the love of God play into the inner healing of the human heart? Join Joshua Hoffert, and Murray Dueck as they interview friend of the podcast Mich…
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Part 2 of Church Untitled: and interview with Ryan Johnson
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In part 2, Ryan dives into catching a vision for who God has made you to be, dealing with the hooks of the enemy, building culture, the difference between purpose and calling, and much more. Tune in! Church Untitled is a gathering place in downtown Vancouver, BC. In the midst of a busy city rife with an increasingly antagonistic culture, this churc…
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Church Untitled: Seriously, Listen to this Episode. An interview with an unassuming pastor, Ryan Johnson. Part 1
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Church Untitled is a gathering place in downtown Vancouver, BC. In the midst of a busy city rife with an increasingly antagonistic culture, this church is building an altar of worship in the downtown core. Ryan Johnson, the pastor of Church Untitled, never envisioned himself as a church planter. In fact, the church began out of deep brokenness and …
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Thinking Apostolically Part 2: Maturity and the need for Apostolic Ministry
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Happy New Year everybody! The Voices from the Desert crew is back at it for 2024! We have some exciting interviews and topics coming in the next few months, stay tuned! Join Joshua Hoffert and Murray Dueck for part 2 of their interview with Bruce Friesen. Bruce is the founder of Children Arise Ministry, which disciples nations by discipling the nex…
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The Annunciation: a Christmas episode
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Hey everyone! Thanks for joining us for the past year! Voices from the Desert is a 1-year old podcast with this episode! We have so appreciated and enjoyed getting to know each and everyone one of you. Murray and Josh have much planned for the new year. Keep checking us out and we will keep diving off the deep end! In this epsiode, Murray and Josh …
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Thinking Apostolically: Five Fold Ministry and the Need for Reformation
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Voices from the Desert invites you on a transformative journey of apostolic thinking, exploring the depths of five-fold ministry. Join hosts Joshua Hoffert and Murray Dueck as they sit down with special guest Bruce Friesen, founder of the Global Transformation Collective. Uncover the wisdom of apostolic living and leadership in this thought-provoki…
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The Prophetic Manifesto: Apostles and Prophets, what's the deal?
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Ever wondered how the early church perceived Apostles, Prophets, Evangelists, Pastors, and Teachers? Join Josh and Murray on Voices from the Desert as we explore the Prophetic Manifesto and what the early church had to say about Five-fold Ministry. Uncover insights into how these roles were embraced in the early church, shaping its spiritual fabric…
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De-Shackling Prophecy From End-Times Eschatology: The Prophecy Series Continued
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Welcome to "Voices from the Desert," where ancient wisdom intersects with modern culture. In this episode, titled "De-shackling Prophecy from End Times Eschatology," Josh and Murray delve into point 6 of the Prophetic Manifesto. Often, prophecy is seen as a vehicle to predict all the calamities that are about to fall upon a nation. But what if we s…
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To Build an International Prophetic Ministry or Not To? A Prophetic Manifesto Continued...
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Today it is common to plan your ministry strategy around worldwide impact and a social media platform. But is it normal to think about building around a gift given by God? Join Josh and Murray as they dive into point 5 of the prophetic manifesto: a hesitancy to use the gift to build a platform. The 7 Points of the Prophetic Manifesto: - The reputat…
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How Silence and Solitude Impact Prophetic Ministry: A Prophetic Manifesto (Continued)
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In this episode of Voices from the Desert we delve into the timeless teachings of the early church age on prophetic ministry and explore their profound relevance in our modern world. Join us as we embark on a thought-provoking journey through the seven key points of The Prophetic Manifesto. Today, we shine a spotlight on the pivotal role of solitud…
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A Prophetic Manifesto (continued): the need for humility, silence, and solitude
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Join Josh and Murray as they continue to breakdown the prophetic manifesto. On for today: the need for humility, silence, and solitude is crucial for prophetic maturity. The seven marks of historic prophetic ministry (The Prophetic Manifesto): - The reputation of Macarius the Great. - The Desert Fathers (aka the prophets in the church) were sought …
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The Prophecy Series: A Prophetic Manifesto (Continued)
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What would a healthy expression of prophetic ministry look like today? How does church history inform who we are and how we are today? Join Murray and Josh as they breakdown a prophetic manifesto for the modern church. On the docket for today: prophetic ministry ought to be known for a robust interpretation of scripture and the primary function of …
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God has "being" and we are "beings". And everything derives itself from there. Join Joshua Hoffert as he talks about how we come to know God and know ourselves. For more about Josh and Wind Ministries visit: https://www.windministries.ca/ Check out our upcoming Dream Interpretation Mentorship: https://www.windtrainingacademy.com/dream-interpretatio…
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Deification, Union with God and Augustine: an interview with Matthew Esquivel Part 2
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How did Augustine see the formation of the spiritual life? Was he a dry stuffy theologian? Did he have a robust apprecation for the experience of God? In what ways does Augustine synergize with the Eastern views of Christian mysticism? Join Joshua Hoffert and Murray Dueck for part 2 of their interview with Matthew Esquivel, who is working on his do…
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Augustine the charismatic and his theology of martyrdom: an interview with Matthew Esquivel Part 1
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Was Augustine a cessationist or continuationist? What did Augustine think about the spiritual gifts? Does Augustine reflect any of the eastern ideas of Theosis? Did in with Joshua Hoffert and Murray Dueck as they talk with Matthew Esquivel who has been working on a dissertation on Augustine, martydom, and experiencing God. For more about Joshua Hof…
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Political Prophecy, Tests for Weighing Prophetic Words, and Experience as a Litmus Test: An Interview with Eric Janzen Part 2
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When the disciples asked Jesus if he was ready to establish his kingdom after his resurrection they still missed the gravity of what the message of the kingdom even was. Jesus must have been shaking his head in response to this query. Today, people attempt to use prophetic ministry to establish their own kingdom. Perhaps this is similar in principl…
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Processing Prophetic Words and Prophetic Hurts: an interview with Eric Janzen Part 1
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How do we respond to prophetic words? And what are we to do when someone says soemthing hurtful to us? Prophetic culture needs an adjustment and Eric Janzen offers helpful principles in his new book "Ponder: Valuing and Evaluating the Gift of Prophecy". Join Joshua Hoffert and Murray Dueck as they interview Eric Janzen and hear all about his new bo…
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The Prophecy Series: A Prophetic Manifesto
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What would it look like if prophetic ministry began looking once again as it did in the early church? What would the marks of historic, authentic, and true prophetic ministry be? Join Josh and Murray as they lay out 7 marks of historic prophetic ministry as they reflect on revelation and the early church. The seven marks of historic prophetic minis…
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The Prophecy Series: Divination: a Critique of Contemporary Prophetic Ministry
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What kind of glimpse does the church offer us about prophetic ministry and how does that help us see where we are at today? Throughout the centuries, the gift of prophecy has flourished. What happened to it today? How have we become so far removed from the practice of prophecy in history? Join Josh and Murray as they reflect on the history of proph…
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The Prophecy Series: Looking like an Idiot, Visibility, Prophecy, and Fools for Christ
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In the historic church there is a category of saint called "Fools for Christ". These people were seen as incredibly gifted, yet they hid themselves from the world by either feigning madness or doing strange things that alienated them from the people around them. Some of them became the most famous men and women of their time. What was the deal with…
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The Prophesy Series: When a Charismatic Prophet Goes Wrong (how the early church responded to false prophecy)
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As we have been moving through this series on prophecy we can firmly resolve that prophetic ministry was alive and viable for the first 600 years of church history (and longer). But did any problems arise? And if they arose, what did people do about said problems? Did the early fathers and mothers just allow erratic people to go unchecked, or did t…
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The Prophecy Series: When a Pope Teaches You to Prophesy
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From how to understand the tenses and modes of prophecy, to the state of maturity required to be used in prophecy, Gregory the Great elaborates on all this and more in his Homilies on the Book of the Prophet Ezekiel. He spoke as man very familiar with the spirit of prophecy and as man that carried a deep love for God. What might he have to teach us…
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The Prophecy Series: Prophets, Apostles, Gold, Money, and Should They Stay for 3 Days (a look at the Didache)
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The Didache cautioned the early church to not trust a wandering prophet or apostle who would stay with them for more than 3 days. On the same note, Paul offered a defense of his ministry in Acts 20 by saying that he never "coveted anyone's silver or gold or apparel". This is juxtaposed with the role of a wandering teacher/orator/philosopher in the …
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The Prophecy Series: Prophecy, Spiritual Gifts and the Early Church
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Starting with this episode, Josh and Murray begin a new series on how the church has viewed and practiced the spiritual gifts since its infancy. Did the gifts of the Spirit cease with the death of the apostles? Did the canonization of scripture have measurable impact on the movement of the Holy Spirit? Join Josh and Murray as they dive in to what t…
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The Eucharist: a conversation about the Eucharist with an Anglican priest Part 2
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Join Joshua, Murray, and Colin as they dive in the sequel episode on the Divine Eucharist. We charismatic evangelicals find it difficult to make the leap from symbol to real presence, but should we be re-thinking what it means to take communion? Listen as Father Colin's mind is blown about the timelessness of God, how a table can help us re-think o…
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A in-depth conversation with an Anglican priest on the Divine Eucharist and real presence or symbolic representation (Part 1)
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Why would a priest not separate his thumb and forefinger after holding the communion elements? Is it merely superstition or is there something more tangible that we Evangelicals have missed? And what might the difference between the Anglican reformers, Roman Catholics, and Orthodox Christians as it pertains to the Eucharist? Join Joshua and Murray …
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The way of humility, the God of humility, and the spiritual lives of the Desert Fathers and Mothers
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Moses could only say he was the most humble man on the face of the earth after he encountered the God of humility. This is because humility is not so much an attribute we acquire but a participation in the humility of God. Archbishop Chrysostom of Etna writes : "Humility dwells in the nature of God Himself. Yet this attribute of God, belonging to a…
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Dreams, Visions, the Patristics, and Whatever Happened? (Part 2 of Dreams and the Patristics)
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So dreams were important in the early church and beyond, but what happened? Why did the church lose interest? And why did the world lose interest? In the past 100 years, people have begun to find a value for dreams and how they intersect with our spirituality again, but the church has been far behind. Perhaps it begins earlier then we thought. Tune…
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Join Murray Dueck and Joshua Hoffert as they discuss dreams in the early church age. Dreams and visions have been a part of the Christanity from its inception and have never gone anywhere. Tune in and find out about the Patristic Age, dreams, the Desert Fathers, and much more! For the upcoming Dreams You Dream Live Training with Joshua Hoffert visi…
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Empire building vs the kingdom of God, encountering God in Scripture, and what is on God's heart: an interview with Steve Schroeder Part 2
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What does it mean to prepare you life and not a sermon? To be ready to speak on behalf of God when He moves on you? What if your prayer life was just like walking and talking with your dad? Sometimes we are more concerned with building our own little empire than just being with the Father. Join Josh, Murray, and Steve as they talk about apostles, p…
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Orphan-ness, Sonship, Encounter, and the Heart of the Father: an interview with Steve Schroeder Part 1
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Have you ever felt as if you have to measure up to something? Have you ever questioned who God is as your Father? Do you have some unquenched need to compete with those around you? Encountering the heart of the Father begins to bring rest to the life of the orphan. Jesus said that he would not leave us as orphans, and in that He reveals His relatio…
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Humility, Warfare, and Theosis with an Orthodox Priest - Part 2
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Join Josh and Murray for the second episode with Father Michael Gillis. This is the second episode wherein Father Mike talks about humility in the patristics, how we are both sinner and one being saved, that spiritual warfare is the battle between those two. Join us as we dive in yet again! Father Mike is the parish priest of Holy Nativity Orthodox…
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Theosis with an Orthodox Priest - Part 1
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Today, Josh and Murray are joined by Father Michael Gillis. Father Mike is the parish priest of Holy Nativity Orthodox Church (https://www.holynativitychurch.ca/) and the genius behind the podcast Praying in the Rain hosted by Ancient Faith Radio (https://www.ancientfaith.com/contributors/michael_gillis). In this episode, Father Mike talks about Th…
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Degrees of maturity, the inner way, and the Beatitudes
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"As I walk, my sins follow behind me and I do not see them yet I've been asked to judge the sins of another." Abba Moses In the Beatitudes, Jesus lays out the schema of the spiritual life. Jesus did not lay out a seven mountain mandate to conquer the world, but he laid out a way of conquering the heart. What Jesus spoke to is, "How do you go about …
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The way of Theosis, transformation, and the secret place of the heart
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A theology of salvation cannot base itself on mental consent. Transformation does not happen because your mind has been changed. How do we go about discovering the deep place of our heart? Bishop Kallistos Ware, when asked if he was saved, responded by saying: "I am in the process of being saved." Salvation as a theory must touch the deep places of…
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The restoration of the image of God in the heart of man
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What does it look like to walk the journey of union with the heart of God? Union is the beginning and the end of the journey, but we can't mistake the entry point for the destination. Isaiah the Solitary said, "In a word, all the works of a monastic will be in vain without such hard labor and without the remembrance of God. This work is both the be…
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Theosis: being versus doing, and the journey of becoming
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Abba Lot went to see Abba Joseph and said to him: "Abba, as far as I can I say my little office, I fast a little, I pray and meditate, I live in peace and as far as I can, I purify my thoughts. What else can I do?" Then the old man stood up and stretched his hands towards heaven. His fingers became like ten lamps of fire and he said to him" "If you…
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