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PMP Industry Insiders

Brought to you by Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon

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The PMP Industry Insiders podcast helps pest control and lawn care professionals grow their businesses. Every week, hosts Donnie Shelton and Dan Gordon talk with the biggest players in the pest control and lawn care markets about what’s changing in the industry and take listeners to the front lines of what the future holds.
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MCI is an independent, global association, communications and event management company. Our combined expertise enables us to offer strategy, creativity and execution in the field of association management (AMC), Congress and Exhibition (PCO), live communication, meetings, events and incentives and performance improvement programmes. Learn more at http://www.GrowGlobally.com.
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Track Changes is a podcast series exploring public sector policy innovation from its many angles: bringing you stories of innovation that worked and innovation that failed, demystifying buzzwords and concepts, chatting with previous generations of public servants, and interviewing current leaders and practitioners from Canada and beyond. Episodes are produced and created by an interdepartmental team of public servants with support from the Privy Council Office Innovation Hub.
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The Conference Collective - Event Management Podcast

Professional Conference Organisers Association

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Welcome to the 'The Conference Collective' Podcast, celebrating the best in innovation and leadership from those who are creating a positive change in the business events industry. A podcast brought to you by the Professional Conference Organisers Association and hosted by Libbie Ray from Connected Event Group. This podcast provides listeners with behind the scenes access to some of the key innovators in our industry as they share their honest and raw insights. It highlights how collaboratio ...
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'MICE Conversations' is a podcast for people who work in travel, specifically Meetings, Incentive Travel, Conferences and Events, aka MICE. If you work in the MICE space, be it as a PCO (professional conference organiser), event planner, a Convention Bureau, conference hotel or at a TMC (travel management company), then you should enjoy MICE Conversations. This podcast is the audio version of MICE Conversations on YouTube. Playlist on the below link. https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQKpBY ...
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Lucha Libre Online

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Enter to the amazing backstage and creative scenario of the Pro Wrestling industry with Hugo Savinovich, an expert with almost 50 years of experience inside Pro Wrestling. Get to know more of the heroes in the pro wrestling industry on Michael’s Behind the Curtain. Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/lucha-libre-online/support
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Two-time WWE Hall of Famer Sean "X-Pac" Waltman presents the latest episode of Pro Wrestling 4 Life every Thursday afternoon! Each episode features Waltman talking the top pro wrestling news of the week, looking back at some of his career highlights, chatting with his famous pro wrestling friends and welcoming some of his fans on for fun and games! For more Pro Wrestling 4 Life content please subscribe to the Pro Wrestling 4 Life Patreon page!
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On this episode, Donnie and Dan walk through answers to recent questions they've received from podcast listeners. Topics include tracking your critical number, how to develop your leadership skills, the best business advice they've ever received, customer service training and more. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton,…
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With the busy season behind us, Dan and Donnie dive into the state of the market. From economic factors like inflation and interest rates to industry-specific trends, they break it all down and give you the insights you need to finish the year strong. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services…
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome Steve Durham, former owner of EnviroCon Pest in Tomball, Texas. He explains how he successfully transformed his company by moving to a recurring revenue model. Steve talks about the discipline required to get away from one-time work, move to auto billing, transition to triennial service — and ultimately exit.…
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On this episode, NPMA's CEO Dominique Stumpf joins Dan and Donnie to discuss what's new at the association and what PMPs can expect from PestWorld 2024. Highlights include a nearly sold out exhibit hall, an improved first-timers experience, a new initiative called NPMA Basecamp, featuring fireside chats and opportunities for attendees to learn and …
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss smart strategies pest control operators can use to fund their growth by reducing taxes. They cover tax rate basics, accelerated depreciation, the importance of tax planning and other tactics for reinvesting tax savings into your business to scale and improve the value of your business long-term. Hosts: Dan Go…
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Trent and Amanda Ragar, owners of Natural State Pest & Lawn in Lowell, Ark., join Dan and Donnie to discuss their efforts to build a great workplace, including programs they use and activities they do to foster employee engagement. Natural State was recently named to PCT's 2024 Best Places to Work rankings in the medium employer category. Guest: Tr…
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On this episode, Sheri Spencer Bachman shares her journey from second-generation PMP to founding her consulting firm, Pest Control Business Coach. She discusses best practices for developing salespeople, including training, role playing, tracking and more. Guests: Sheri Spencer Bachman, Owner, Pest Control Business Coach Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Book…
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Join us on The Conference Collective as Nicole White delves into the crucial topic of self-care in the bustling world of events. Nicole emphasises the importance of personal well-being for professionals in the industry, highlighting how taking time for oneself contributes to enhanced performance and productivity. Discover practical mindfulness tips…
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Pest control industry veteran Raymond Kidwell, Director of Business Development at Voice for Pest, joins the podcast to discuss AI's potential to enhance customer service and call center operations in the pest and lawn industries. He explores the benefits of AI-powered phone systems, such as call monitoring and scoring, and he addresses the limitat…
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In this episode of The Conference Collective, Darrell Hardidge takes centre stage to unravel the intricacies of customer success in the realm of business events. Join us as we delve into the critical role of analytics and reporting in monitoring client satisfaction, event success, and attendee engagement. Darrell sheds light on common pitfalls affe…
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On this episode, Certus Pest CEO Dave Bradford joins Dan and Donnie. He shares insights on the importance of employee and customer retention, data visibility and long-term value creation. They also cover growth opportunities for Certus and the company's unique approach to evaluating branch performance. Guest: Dave Bradford, CEO, Certus Pest Hosts: …
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James Szojka, co-founder of Yard Dawgs in Calgary, Alberta, joins Dan and Donnie to share his experiences and strategies for using social media ads to market his lawn care company, emphasizing the importance of tracking lead sources and continuously testing and optimizing ads. He covers the difference between ads on Facebook and Instagram compared …
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As a pest or lawn business owner, it can be exciting to get your first call from a private equity firm. But it also raises many questions. Why are they contacting you now? How should you handle the call? Should you even take it? On this episode, Dan and Donnie answer these questions and other things to consider about partnering with private equity.…
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In this episode of The Conference Collective, we are thrilled to welcome Rebecca Wessels, the founder and CEO of Ochre Dawn, to discuss the transformative power of Reconciliation Action Plans (RAPs). Rebecca shares her insights on what RAPs are and why they are crucial for businesses aiming to foster inclusivity and reconciliation within their comm…
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie explore the impact of AI-powered search engines on pest and lawn businesses. They discuss the shift from optimizing for search engines to focusing on user intent, emphasizing the importance of natural language processing and conversational AI integration. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie She…
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie dive into Donnie's efforts to boil down team members' effectiveness to a single metric. Inspired by his experience as a pilot, Donnie shares how he is evaluating critical results to communicate clearly and ensure quality and excellence at Triangle Home Services. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDon…
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Description: On this episode, Dan and Donnie share eight factors that can help you create a sustainable, thriving pest or lawn business and achieve a healthy bottom line. Dan details a list of useful operational ratios and gives an accountant's view on them, while Donnie gives an operator's perspective. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A Spec…
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On this episode of The Conference Collective, dive into the enchanting world of music, events, and well-being with our guest, Ciaran Gribbin. Throughout the episode, Ciaran discusses his rich background in the music and events industries, offering a unique perspective on the intersection of sound and health within our personal lives, and in our eve…
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie review GPT-4o — OpenAI's latest artificial intelligence model. They cover how the algorithm is different from previous models, why that matters and how you can use it in your pest or lawn business. Donnie also demonstrates how to use it for data analysis, so be sure to check out the video version of this episode at y…
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Coalmarch's Christin Nein joins the podcast to share her expertise on the always important topic of generating customer reviews. She covers why reviews matter, how to generate more reviews, how to make sure you get the right reviews and what to do if you get a negative review. Guest: Christin Nein, Sr. Director, Product Development, Coalmarch by Wo…
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In this episode of The Conference Collective, Dr. Lucy Mercer-Mapstone shares invaluable insights on fostering inclusivity and safety in business events. Join us as we explore the nuances of planning for accessibility and discover small, impactful changes that can be implemented to make events more inclusive. Dr. Mercer-Mapstone highlights common p…
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David Billingsly, president and founder of The Billingsly Group, gives the inside scoop about what he's hearing as the facilitator of the PMP Industry Insiders Peer Groups, including insights on the economy, pricing, routing and AI. David also discusses how the groups are going so far and goals for the future. Guest: David Billingsly, President & F…
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome Dr. Cassie Krejci Ph.D., Head of Science & Innovation, North America, for Rentokil Initial — better known as the Bug Doc. She updates us on Rentokil's new North American Innovation Center, details her six points of customer innovation and shares four ways she leverages social media to raise the profile of the…
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie break down Google's new AI-powered tool, formerly known as Google SGE. They cover why the search giant is rolling it out, how it works and what you need to know about it to market your pest control or lawn care company more effectively. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home…
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In this episode of The Conference Collective, we explore the fascinating world of artificial intelligence (AI) with Craig Rispin, a renowned futurist. Craig provides insights into the history and evolution of AI, from its origins to its current state, highlighting the transformative impact of AI on productivity and efficiency across various industr…
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HR expert Jean Seawright is back to discuss the latest federal regulations that affect employers, including pest control and lawn care companies. Tune in to hear what you need to know about three new rules that pertain to independent contractors, overtime pay and noncompete agreements. Guest: Jean Seawright, President, Seawright & Associates Hosts:…
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JD Darr, Director of Legislative and Regulatory Affairs for the National Pest Management Association, joins Dan and Donnie on this episode to share the legislative and regulatory issues on NPMA members’ minds. He also covers the importance of using your voice to influence public policy and what you can expect when you attend a Legislative Day event…
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Distracted driving is on the rise, driving up auto insurance claims and increasing exposure for pest control companies. PestSure's Director of Safety Linda Midyett joins Dan and Donnie to discuss the problem and the most important things PMPs can do to fix it and control costs. Guests: Linda Midyett, Director of Safety, PestSure Hosts: Dan Gordon, …
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Join us on The Conference Collective as Michael Fleck guides us through the dynamic landscape of business events in 2024. Michale delves into the importance of not just talking about sustainability but implementing policies and practices that create a lasting impact and emphasises the need for events to be 'real,' resonating with audiences regardle…
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On the heels of tax season, Dan Gordon & Donnie Shelton review common questions pest control company owners have about optimizing their taxes. They discuss filing extensions, avoiding penalties, tracking expenses and claiming tax credits, among other FAQs. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services…
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Join Dan and Donnie as they welcome Rentokil's John Myers and Brad Paulsen to the podcast. John shares the leadership lessons he's learned during Rentokil's period of explosive growth, Brad discusses the firm's The Right Way 2 Growth Plan, plus they cover the Terminix integration, M&A prospects, and much more. Guests: John Myers, CEO of U.S. Pest C…
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie welcome back Andrew Bray, senior vice president of government relations & membership for the National Association of Landscape Professionals, to discuss top-of-mind issues on the lawn care side of the business. They cover the Farm Bill's significance, state preemption of local pesticide laws, election year scenarios,…
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In this episode of The Conference Collective, we're joined by Rachel Hibble, who takes us on her inspiring career journey with OzHarvest, a leading organisation in the fight against food waste. Rachel shares insights into OzHarvest's current and future plans, shedding light on the profound impact of food waste on our environment. Delve into practic…
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Join Dan and Donnie for an energizing episode with best-selling author Patrick Lencioni, the mastermind behind "The 5 Dysfunctions of a Team" and "The Advantage." They dive into the dysfunctions, three three essential traits of exceptional team players and how to get more out of meetings. Patrick also shares details about his latest book and concep…
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie review some of their recent predictions about the economy and whether or not they were correct. They also cover economic positives and negatives, trends to consider in the near term, and tips for pest and lawn companies. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services…
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Jim Fredericks, Ph.D. is back on the podcast to share the latest Professional Pest Management Alliance initiatives and what's coming down the pike. They cover large-scale projects, media coverage, the benefits of investing in PPMA and other ways the organization is growing and protecting the industry. Guest: Jim Fredericks, Ph.D., Senior VP of Publ…
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Join us on The Conference Collective Podcast as we sit down with Barry Neame, PCOA president, to discuss the association's plans for 2024 and beyond. Barry shares insights into the future of PCOA, outlining upcoming initiatives and goals, while sharing details about this year's focus on helping members navigate contract negotiations. Explore the pi…
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In this episode, Margaret Garcia, president of Grit PPO, joins Dan and Donnie to share her expertise in pest control customer service. She covers how to take control of a phone call, the importance of tone, words to avoid, what to say instead, why call scripts work and more. Guest: Margaret Garcia, President, Grit PPO Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkee…
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Hawx Pest Control Co-founder Matt Mehr walks Dan and Donnie through how he and his partners have built a nine-figure enterprise from scratch. He discusses how his door-to-door business has evolved using data and proprietary technology, what it's like to get a private equity infusion and key metrics they're focusing on to continue to scale up. Guest…
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In this episode, Dan and Donnie cover why online reviews are so critical in the pest control and lawn care industry and what you can do to up your review game. They go into the psychology of consumer reviews, Google's policies, how to get more reviews and tactics to avoid. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle…
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On this episode of The Conference Collective, Mykel Dixon shares his insights on creating standout events that resonate with attendees. From challenging norms to embracing innovation, Mykel discusses the power of simplicity, creative thinking, and the courage to take risks. Discover how to connect with your audience, switch up your event, and gain …
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie ask whether there is still a place for allowing some staff to work from home in the service industry. They discuss the effect on productivity, culture, communication and client relationships, and they brainstorm ways to mitigate the downsides of WFH. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton,…
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Dan & Donnie quiz AI consultant Andrew Louder about implementing AI in your business. They cover writing effective prompts, AI tools to consider and potential opportunities for the pest management industry, including marketing, operations and beyond. Guest: Andrew Louder, Founder, Louder Co. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonni…
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In response to a social media post debating the importance of understanding industry averages, Dan and Donnie discuss the power of benchmarking. They delve into the concept of leadership capital, goal setting and using benchmarks as a starting point to become a better-than-average pest control or lawn care company. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeeper…
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On this episode, Dan and Donnie delve into the importance of nailing your marketing messaging. They cover how to improve your positioning in the marketplace and why you must differentiate your company from the competition. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services…
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Sharon Roebuck-McBride, VP of Culture and Customer Experience for Triangle Home Services, is back on the podcast to discuss the people component of EOS and what pest control and lawn care professionals can learn from it. Guests: Sharon Roebuck-McBride, VP of Culture and Customer Experience, Triangle Home Services Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers …
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Veteran sales consultant Patrick Quigley joins Dan and Donnie to discuss how to develop selling technicians. He covers different types of techs and salespeople, the concept of "drop-dead pests" and steps to take to cultivate technicians who sell in your company. Guests: Patrick Quigley, president of Sales Training by Design Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO B…
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What is company culture? How do you know if yours is effective or ineffective? On this episode, Dan and Donnie discuss how they think about culture in pest control and lawn care companies and how to approach a culture change if you need one. Hosts: Dan Gordon, PCO Bookkeepers & M&A SpecialistsDonnie Shelton, Triangle Home Services…
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