A podcast community for Proptech and Real Estate leaders, investors, operators and innovators. A new era is upon us. Tangent💚Proptech unites Proptech founders💡, Real Estate investors and operators🏢, Venture Capital investors, urban leaders🏙 and passionate creators🌎 who are improving our communities and cities. Join us to learn how we can solve present day challenges with innovative technology and greater collaboration. Join VC investors Jeffrey Berman and Zach Aarons, and Proptech entreprene ...
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Enter the exciting world of Property Technology. Explore the new wave of digital transformation that is disrupting the real estate. Zain Jaffer your host has extensive experience as a startup CEO & Founder and real estate investor. Zain interviews top real estate experts, venture capitalists and executives who are moulding the future of the PropTech industry. If you're looking to hear from industry experts on what the future of then you're listening to the right podcast.
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Perspectives from the next wave of world-class investors and operators
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Future of CRE | Unlocking Asset Management in the Data & AI Era, with symmetRE Co-founder Ross Piermarini
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Ross Piermarini is the co-founder of symmetRE, a Chicago-based proptech firm specializing in automating data aggregation and reporting for commercial real estate investors. Prior to founding symmetRE, Ross worked in the Leveraged Finance group at BMO Capital Markets, focusing on real estate clients. His firsthand experience with the challenges of m…
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Transforming the $1.3 Trillion Vacation Home Market with Fractional Investing & Ownership, with Pacaso CEO & Co-founder Austin Allison
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Austin is CEO of Pacaso and co-founded the company with Spencer Rascoff (co-founder and former CEO of Zillow) to make the dream of second home ownership a reality for more people after experiencing the profound effect it had on his own life. Pacaso is Austin’s second startup. In 2009, he founded dotloop in his hometown of Cincinnati, a company that…
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Reinventing Finances for Real Estate Agents, NYC's FARE Act & NAR Lawsuit, with Tongo CEO Brandon Wright
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Brandon Wright is the Co-founder and CEO of Tongo, the company he co-founded to help Real Estate agents address cash flow challenges by providing financial tools such as a commission line of credit and a payroll solution to help stabilize their incomes and automate savings. With a deep understanding of the challenges faced by agents and commission-…
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Climate Tech | How to Make Multifamily Buildings Smarter and More Energy & Carbon Efficient, with Embue CEO Robert Cooper
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Robert Cooper is the President and CEO of Embue. After two decades in high tech, Robert decided to follow his passion and use his experience to help solve the climate crisis and improve people's lives. He decided to focus on Multifamily after recognizing the huge opportunity to simultaneously reduce carbon emissions, improve residents' health and c…
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Housing | Solving The Biggest Pain in Multifamily, with 100 CEO & Co-founder Caren Maio
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Caren Maio is the CEO and co-founder of 100, a Proptech company tackling rental fraud for Multifamily owners and operators. A staggering 93% of operators have experienced fraud in the last 12 months, and Caren and the 100 team are on a mission to stop it. Prior to this role, she led Moved, and co-founded and led Funnel (previously Nestio), a leasin…
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Proptech VC Trends for 2025 & Trump Impact on Real Estate & Tech Investment, with Fifth Wall Partner Dan Wenhold
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Dan Wenhold is an early stage investor in built world technology and Partner at Fifth Wall, where he co-leads the Real Estate Technology Investment team. Dan has led investments in innovative CRE tech companies like Fractional, Cottage and Neighbor.com. Prior to joining Fifth Wall, Dan was the first employee and Director of Retail at The Black Tux …
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Housing | Unlocking the Future of Residential Property Management, with APM Help Chief Happiness Officer Taylor Hou
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Taylor Hou is the CEO and Chief Happiness Officer at APM Help, a company serving over 300,000 single family homes nationwide dedicated to professionalizing the single family property management industry by bringing clarity and efficiency for accounting and operations. A serial entrepreneur and tech investor, Taylor is passionate about applying lean…
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Climate Tech | Building Picks-and-shovels & AI Startups for Real Estate & Construction's Global Energy Transition, with One Dream Ventures Co-Founder Eli Harris
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A Forbes 30 Under 30 entrepreneur, Eli Harris is the Co-Founder and Partner at One Dream Ventures, a venture studio developing cutting-edge enterprise SaaS and AI startups for the global energy transition in real estate and construction sectors. Previously, he co-founded R-Zero, backed by investors like Mayo Clinic and John Doerr, to revolutionize …
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Housing | AI-powered Multifamily Leasing, State of Housing Market & Rental Trends, with Reffie Founder Connie Lee
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Connie Lee is the Founder of Reffie, a centralized leasing platform designed to help Multifamily operators streamline their leasing processes and lease units faster. Reffie helps automate the 'boring', so real estate operators can focus on closing more renters. Before launching Reffie, she served as Strategy & Operations at Mosaic.tech and also man…
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Climate Tech | Fifth Wall CEO Brendan Wallace on Building Real Estate's Tesla & US Elections Impact on Climate Tech Investment
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Brendan Wallace is CEO & CIO at Fifth Wall, where he guides the firm’s strategic vision. Fifth Wall is the largest venture capital firm focused on technologies for the global real estate industry, including those which decarbonize the sector. Wallace has described the impact of the real estate industry on the environment as "the single-biggest leve…
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Housing | The Easiest Way to Integrate with Multifamily Property Management, with Propexo CEO Remen Okoruwa
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Remen Okoruwa is a former strategy consultant and product manager, and now Co-founder and CEO at Propexo. His company helps property owners, operators, and proptech companies deliver better resident experiences through the power of data. Propexo provides tools for connecting property management software with other technology in a streamlined way. P…
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How Berkadia's BeEngaged Helps Proptech Startups Redefine Commercial Real Estate, with Berkadia's VP Bryce Nyberg
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Bryce Nyberg is the VP, Corporate Development at Berkadia and the Head of BeEngaged. Bryce focuses on advancing innovation in our industry through BeEngaged, partnerships, investments, and acquisitions. His influence in and out of Berkadia, business acumen, and effective program leadership skills lead to remarkable outcomes for the organizations he…
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Future of CRE | Rudin Co-CEO Michael Rudin on CRE Amenities for Today's Workforce, Profitable Ops & Proptech's Dirty Little Secrets
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Michael Rudin joined Rudin in 2008 and, together with his sister Samantha, represents the fourth generation to work at the family business founded in 1925. Michael focuses on new developments, capital markets, commercial leasing, sustainability and technology. He also helps lead the family’s alternative investing business, Rudin Ventures, where the…
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Housing Crisis | Revolutionizing Build-to-Rent Development, with a16z-backed Mosaic CEO Salman Ahmad
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Salman Ahmad is the CEO and Co-founder of a16z-backed Mosaic, a construction technology company that builds software that makes homebuilding more scalable and efficient. Mosaic was founded in 2017 by Salman and Sep Kamvar, whom were two computer scientists working together at MIT and Stanford developing machine learning algorithms applied in the re…
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Housing Crisis | The Rise of Home Equity Investments, with Point Co-founder Eoin Matthews
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Eoin Matthews is the Co-founder at Point, a home equity investment company making home equity wealth accessible to homeowners without creating a monthly debt obligation. Homeowners get upfront funds from Point in return for a portion of your home’s future appreciation. Point recently announced an oversubscribed $141M securitization, which marked it…
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Climate Tech | Sustainability & Economic Benefits From Decarbonizing Real Estate, with Cortex CRO Lisa Rockefeller
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Lisa Rockefeller is the Chief Revenue Officer at Cortex Sustainability Intelligence, the decarbonization platform built for commercial real estate, where she's driving the go-to market strategy. Cortex's advanced AI helps CRE teams amplify operational effectiveness, make informed decisions about capital investments, and tactically address regulatio…
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The New Generation of Real Estate Tech Venture Capital, with RE Angels GP & Founder Alon Gorbonos
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Alon is the Founder and General Partner of RE Angels, a real estate technology angel fund solely composed of real estate experts with deep and diverse industry expertise focused on early stage startups. Alon also owns and manages several multifamily portfolios throughout the southeast (FL, NC & VA). Alon was the co-founder and managing partner of D…
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Future of Office | Coworking is Dead, Long Live Coworking: The New Flex Office Generation, with a16z-backed Codi CEO Christelle Rohaut
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Christelle Rohaut is the Founder and CEO of Codi (backed by a16z), where she's building the walk-to-work revolution. Codi offers turnkey, private office spaces with the most flexible terms on the market. In a matter of days, any company can find a space for their team, with full and part-time options, outsourced office management, and flexible leas…
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A New Way to Finance Tech-Enabled Real Estate Co's & Lessons from the Proptech Boom Cycle, with Cherry Lawn Capital Managing Partner Robert McDonald
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Robert McDonald is the Managing Partner at Cherry Lawn Capital, on a mission to provide businesses with the real estate capital necessary to scale and the operational capital needed for a successful next venture round. Robert joins Edward, Jeff and Zach to also discuss lessons and takeaways from the previous Proptech boom cycle, and how should foun…
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Climate Tech | How to Solve Real Estate's Greatest Challenge, with Measurabl CEO Matt Ellis
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Matt Ellis is the CEO of Measurabl, the world’s most widely adopted ESG solution for real estate. Customers use Measurabl to measure, manage, report, and act on ESG data on more than 15 billion square feet of commercial real estate across 92 countries. Measurabl empowers customers to optimize ESG performance, assess exposure to physical climate ris…
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Future of Office | The Boring Building Amenity That Makes CRE Investors Money, with Stuf CEO Kat Lau
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Katharine Lau is the CEO and Co-founder of Stuf, a self storage startup delivering modern, tech-enabled storage to consumers and businesses. Stuf partners with real estate owners to monetize basements, garages, and other spaces in commercial buildings as storage, creating new cash flow opportunities for landlords while providing neighborhoods with …
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Housing Crisis | Unlocking 2% Mortgages, with Roam Founder & CEO Raunaq Singh
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Raunaq Singh is the founder & CEO of Roam, the platform for purchasing a home with an assumable, low-rate mortgage included. Prior to founding Roam, Raunaq spent a decade in various product and operations roles across Uber, Opendoor and Culdesac. He received a Bachelor's degree in Political Economy from NYU and currently resides in New York City. (…
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Future of Office | Convene CEO Ryan Simonetti: Building the Largest Office Experience Provider, WeWork's Bankruptcy & Office Predictions for 2024
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Ryan Simonetti is the CEO and co-founder of Convene, a global hospitality company that owns and manages premium Meeting, Event & Workplace locations around the world. His unique expertise in real estate acquisitions, development, and finance has helped catapult Convene to become a pioneer in the commercial real estate industry. Ryan is also the co-…
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Housing Crisis | Jeff Bezos-backed Real Estate Company Allows Regular People to Invest in Rental Homes, with Arrived CEO Ryan Frazier
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Ryan Frazier is the Co-founder and CEO at Arrived Homes, the Real Estate tech company that Jeff Bezos and Marc Benioff invested in to make the wealth building potential of owning rental homes & vacation rentals more accessible. Ryan and the Arrived team believe they can do that by simplifying the process, and lowering the cost to get started. With …
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Housing Crisis | The Lawsuit That Will Change Real Estate Forever & Reimagining the Home Buying Experience, with Aalto CEO Nick Narodny
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Nick Narodny is the Founder and CEO at Aalto, a real estate marketplace that lets people buy and sell homes online. Nick previously co-founded Grovo, a microlearning company for real estate agents that was acquired by Cornerstone on Demand. Real Estate runs in the family for Nick, after being raised and inspired by his real estate agent mother and …
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Fundrise CEO Ben Miller on Real Estate & VC Investment Strategies, Macro Trends for 2024 & Building the Online Blackstone
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Ben Miller is the co-founder and CEO of Fundrise, the largest direct-to-consumer alternative asset manager in the US. Under his leadership, Fundrise has grown to over 2 million active users and over $3 billion in real estate private equity, private credit, and growth-stage venture capital. Ben also serves as Chairman of the Board of three publicly-…
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Future of Office | WeWork, Adam Neumann, & the Great Startup Delusion, with WSJ Best-seller Author Eliot Brown
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Eliot Brown is the co-author of The Cult of We (with Maureen Farrell), a WSJ best-selling book, and winner of the Financial Times, Fortune, and NPR Best Book of the Year Awards. Eliot covers startups and venture capital for The Wall Street Journal in London. He joined the Journal in 2010, when he was hired to cover commercial real estate in the wak…
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How Multifamily Investors Can Decarbonize Buildings Profitably & Avoid Fines, with Kelvin Founder & CEO Marshall Cox
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Marshall Cox is a PhD in Electrical Engineering, and the Founder and CEO at Kelvin, winner of the MIT Clean energy prize, the Popular Science Innovation Award, and the Verizon Powerful Answers award. The Kelvin team has developed a system that eliminates overheating in pre-war buildings. The system, called the Cozy, is a wireless, low-cost, and eas…
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State of Short-term Rentals & Airbnb Regulation, with Hostaway Founder & CEO Marcus Räder
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Marcus Räder started his first company when he was 11 years old. Since then, he's been learning about the world of business, growing up in an environment where global communication and connectivity gets better each day. With 10 years of experience in EdTech and online marketing at various startups, he decided it was time to help others. By founding…
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Cannabis Real Estate Opportunities & Challenges, with Zoned Properties CEO Bryan McLaren
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Bryan McLaren is the Chairman & CEO at Zoned Properties, providing regulated Cannabis Real Estate and knowledge since 2014. Cannabis is now legal across 37 US states, and NYC's recent roll-out has put the industry under scrutiny. In this episode, Edward Cohen & Zach Aarons explore the opportunities for Commercial Real Estate investors and retail ow…
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Bridging the Gap Between Short-Term Real Estate Lenders, Borrowers & Investors, with Groundfloor Co-founder Nick Bhargava | Tangent @ Blueprint
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Groundfloor is a private real estate lending marketplace open to non-accredited investors. Groundfloor opens the door to short-term, high-yield returns backed by real estate. Their platform brings together individual investors looking for short-term lending investments and borrowers looking for short-term financing for their specific real estate pr…
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How to Maximize Multifamily Performance with Renter Analytics, with RCKRBX CEO Michael Broder & COO James Moore
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RCKRBX is the first real estate SaaS platform that puts the voice of the renter at the Multifamily developer's and investor's fingertips, including across key investment, development, marketing, leasing, and management decision points. The platform delivers actionable intelligence around the preferences, priorities, attitudes, and viewpoints that d…
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The Easiest Way to Integrate Multifamily Property Management & Proptech, with Propify CEO & Co-founder Remen Okoruwa | Tangent @ Blueprint
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Remen Okoruwa is product-minded leader who's working to unlock data for the property management industry. Remen and his co-founders met while they were working at Hubspot, and are now bringing their deep expertise about integrations to streamline Multifamily property management operations for all stakeholders. Propify (YC W23) recently raised $3.3M…
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State of the Self Storage Market, On Demand Storage Models & Creating Value with Social Media Content, with DXD Capital Co-founder Cory Sylvester
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As the Co-Founder of DXD Capital, Cory Sylvester brings 14 years of Real Estate & Finance expertise to revolutionize the Self Storage industry. Passionate about utilizing data and technology, Cory is building the largest platform for building and buying self storage facilities in the US. His Self Storage journey began with co-founding Radius+, a su…
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Solving the Construction Labor Shortage with Mobile Micro-Factories, with Cuby Co-founder Aleks Gampel | Tangent @ Blueprint
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Aleksandr Gampel co-founded Cuby Technologies with Aleh Kandrashou in 2021 to tackle the construction labor shortage. After 200,000 engineering hours, Cuby is setting the stage to commercialize hundreds of mobile micro-factories (MMF's) on or near construction sites to enable developers, general contractors and local partners to build better buildi…
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CoreLogic CIO John Rogers on 22K Data Sources to Power Real Estate, Affordable Housing Development & Mitigate Climate Risk | Tangent @ Blueprint
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John Rogers is the Chief Innovation Officer at CoreLogic, leading R&D on the biggest asset class in the world - the US Real Estate Economy, and driving new product development to market via an iconic property & location intelligence platform called Discovery. This platform allows clients that rely on data, insights, models and answers to drive grow…
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Zillow Co-Founder Spencer Rascoff on the New Proptech Wave, Democratizing Access with Housing Innovation, & LA Tech Ecosystem
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Spencer Rascoff co-founded and ran Zillow for a decade as its CEO. Spencer is also the co-founder at Pacaso and, through his startup studio and VC firm, 75 & Sunny, is an active angel investor in more than 100 companies and is incubating several more. Rascoff is a NYT’s best selling author based in LA who focuses on Proptech, the future of work and…
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Housing Crisis | It's Not a Mortgage, It's Not Renting, It's Acre, with Acre Homes CEO & Co-founder Mike Schneider
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Mike Schneider is the CEO & Co-founder of Acre Homes. Acre combines the ease of renting with the financial upside of owning. Acre is available in Raleigh-Durham, and will be launching in Atlanta and Nashville soon. Previously, Mike served as the VP of Technology Strategy at RE/MAX, and Co-founded First, a real estate tech company that leveraged mac…
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Housing Crisis | Using Robots to Build Homes Faster & Cheaper, with BotBuilt CEO Brent Wadas
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Brent Wadas is the CEO at BotBuilt, a Y-Combinator Construction technology company based in Durham, NC that is revolutionizing building homes with robots to address the labor shortage and housing affordability crisis. Brent served in the US Army in Afghanistan after 9/11, where he fulfilled his patriotic calling. BotBuilt employs a methodology that…
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Creating Pro-housing Ecosystems, with Ivory Innovations' Chief Innovation & Strategy Jenna Louie
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Jenna Louie leads partnerships and strategic outreach at Ivory Innovations, and was previously an investor with the Urban Development Deal Team at Stanford. Ivory Innovations' mission is to catalyze innovation in housing affordability by promoting the most compelling ideas in housing by convening industry experts, inspiring students to tackle housi…
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The Real Deal's Amir Korangy on the Future of Real Estate Media, Building Hybrid Real Estate Communities & AI Opportunities & Threats
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Amir R. Korangy is an Iranian-American publisher and film producer, who founded the business magazine, The Real Deal, about real estate and finance news. He also produced the PBS documentary, "Building Stories", about architect Costas Kondylis. Amir Korangy is also an adjunct associate professor of media and real estate at New York University where…
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Housing Crisis | Transforming Housing Development with Workforce Creation & Political Innovation, with Inherent L3C CEO Tim Swanson
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Timothy Swanson is the President & CEO of Inherent L3C, a Chicago-based low profit LLC focused on enabling and empowering long term affordable homeownership and generational wealth creation through modular housing development, workforce platform and a smart home marketplace for future homeowners. 💚Learn more: ➡️Inherent L3C (site) - Transforming li…
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How to Increase Workplace Efficiency, Improve Tenant Well-being & Reach Sustainability Goals, with Enlighted CEO Stefan Schwab
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Stefan Schwab is the CEO of Enlighted (acquired by Siemens), a Proptech provider of IoT solutions at the intersection of people, space, and work. Enlighted combines cognitive environmental IoT sensors and lighting controls that connect to intelligent workplace experience apps, offering a singular, scalable, interoperable solution to address a spect…
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Bonus | Discomfort Zone: What Have You Changed Your Mind About? Ft. Steve Eisman, Zach Aarons, Nick Romito, Kevin Ortner, Imran Noorani & Noah Isaacs
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This is a Tangent Special episode. Discomfort Zone: the art of stepping out of your comfort zone to pivot in business and in life, and the science of changing your mind when you are faced with new facts and acquire new experiences. (0:25) - Zach Aarons (GP & Co-founder at MetaProp) (3:03) - Nick Romito (CEO & Founder at VTS) (3:47) - Kevin Ortner (…
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Housing Crisis | Rent-to-Invest & Build Residential Real Estate Wealth, with Roots Co-founder Daniel Dorfman
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Daniel Dorfman is the Co-founder at Roots, an Atlanta-based company aiming to help 1 million people create wealth through residential real estate investing and their innovative ''Rent it like you own it'' program. 💚Learn more: ➡️Roots (site) - The real estate portfolio that creates wealth for you and its Residents 💚Feature: ➡️Dottid (book a demo) -…
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AI Opportunities for Real Estate, Regional Banks' Impact on CRE & Creating Value with Software, with Dealpath CEO Mike Sroka
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Mike Sroka, CEO and Co-founder of Dealpath, a leading cloud-based software platform for commercial real estate investment and development teams, including Blackstone, Nuveen, Oxford Properties and L+M. Mike currently also contributes to Forbes' Real Estate Council, and previously worked as a PM at Zynga. Edward & Jeff are joined by friend of Tangen…
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Housing Crisis | Fixing the Broken Mortgage System, with Altgage CEO Sukesh Shekar
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Sukesh Shekar is the CEO & Founder at Altgage, the Google search of mortgages, bringing simply affordable mortgages to home buyers. . Sukesh believes in the American dream of homeownership. However, mortgages are more unaffordable than ever and most mortgage processes lack transparency. Altgage makes home buying more affordable with smart mortgages…
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SVB's & Signature Bank's Impact on Proptech, Real Estate & VC, with Common Founder Brad Hargreaves & MetaProp Co-founder Zach Aarons
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Hosts Edward and Jeffrey are joined by MetaProp Co-founder & GP Zach Aarons, and special guest Brad Hargreaves, Founder and Chairman at Common and contributor to Thesis Driven, to discuss Silicon Valley Bank's and Signature Bank's unraveling and it's potential implications on Proptech, commercial real estate and VC investing. (2:05) - SVB's fallout…
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#82 - Data-driven LP investing with Jake Kupperman (Principal @ Level VC)
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Guest: Jake Kupperman (@jbkupperman) Company: Level Ventures Location: New York, NY Background: Level is a leading data-driven investment manager focused on technology innovation. Their team thinks about venture investing differently than most, and they apply deep levels of data science to inform their decision-making process. Talking points (five-…
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State of the Office Market and Remote Work's Impact on Commercial Real Estate and Cities, with VTS CEO & Founder Nick Romito
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Nick Romito is the CEO and Founder of VTS, Commercial Real Estate's leading leasing and asset management platform. Under his leadership, VTS has grown to more than 60% of Class A office space in the US and over 12 billion square feet of office, retail, and industrial is managed through the VTS platform globally. (1:23) - State of the Office market …
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