Hosted by a former white-collar federal criminal investigator, this bi-weekly podcast seeks to find the best tools, practices, opportunities, and people to answer your questions about fraud and forensic accounting. Every episode is a conversation with an expert in the fraud or forensic accounting industry who has a story to tell, ideas and wisdom to share, successes to inspire, and failures to confess. Where can you find the right credentials for your career? Where can you find the right tra ...
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From billionaires to paupers, every economic class has their share of tax cheats. Al Capone was the first widely known criminal imprisoned for tax evasion. Since then, the tax law has been used to prosecute various white collar crimes. This podcast is for those who are interested when taxes and crimes intersect. We talk about tax crimes and look at the stories of those who committed them, those who defend them, and those who prove the cases.
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How do you become a modern-day Sherlock Holmes? Leah Wietholter interviews guests and equips listeners with tools to decipher evidence to find money based on her unique experience in forensic accounting, investigations and as a Data Sleuth®.
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90. Q&A: Forensic Accounting as a Business with Tracy Coenen
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In today’s episode with Tracy Coenen, Leah and Tracy answer your questions about forensic accounting as a business! The two professionals and business owners discuss: Things they wish they’d known before starting their business Insurance! Who is the client in forensic accounting engagements Data analysis tools for start-ups In this season of the Da…
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89. Selling Expert Services to Attorneys with Dan Ramey
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Today’s episode with Dan Ramey is about how to sell to clients - specifically attorneys. In this episode, Dan and Leah discuss: Types of services that fall under forensic accounting How to sell forensic accounting service to attorneys How to avoid the sales-y feeling Considerations when starting a forensic accounting practice as a solo practitioner…
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88. Financial Considerations for Consultants with Martin Holland
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In this season of the Data Sleuth Podcast, join Leah Wietholter as she discusses the business of forensic accounting with successful professionals who have done just that! As part of this series, Workman Forensics and podcast guests are providing free resources and tools to accompany each episode to help you with your practice whether you’re just s…
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87. Website and Customer Relationship Management (CRM) with Steven Rydin
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In this season of the Data Sleuth Podcast, join Leah Wietholter as she discusses the business of forensic accounting with successful professionals who have done just that! As part of this series, Workman Forensics and podcast guests are providing free resources and tools to accompany each episode to help you with your practice whether you’re just s…
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86. Digital Marketing for Forensic Accountants with Tatiana Spears
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85. Marketing & Networking as a Consultant with Amanda Jo Erven, CPA, CIA, CFE, CTQA
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84. How to Start a Forensic Accounting Practice with Robert Nordlander CPA, CFE
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In this season of the Data Sleuth Podcast, join Leah Wietholter as she discusses the business of forensic accounting with successful professionals who have done just that! As part of this series, Workman Forensics and podcast guests are providing free resources and tools to accompany each episode to help you with your practice whether you’re just s…
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83. Best Evidence: Interviews in Fraud Investigations with Leah Wietholter
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At the heart of all successful forensic accounting engagements or fraud investigations is the reliance and analysis of evidence. Best circumstantial evidence in a financial investigation are sources of information or data that are furthest removed from the influence of a subject. If you want to ensure that you uncover facts resulting in defensible …
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82. Best Evidence: Non-Financial Evidence with Leah Wietholter
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At the heart of all successful forensic accounting engagements or fraud investigations is the reliance and analysis of evidence. Best circumstantial evidence in a financial investigation are sources of information or data that are furthest removed from the influence of a subject. If you want to ensure that you uncover facts resulting in defensible …
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81. Best Evidence: Accounting Records with Leah Wietholter
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At the heart of all successful forensic accounting engagements or fraud investigations is the reliance and analysis of evidence. Best circumstantial evidence in a financial investigation are sources of information or data that are furthest removed from the influence of a subject. If you want to ensure that you uncover facts resulting in defensible …
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80. Best Evidence: Payroll Reports with Leah Wietholter
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79. Best Evidence: Credit Card Statements with Leah Wietholter
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78. Best Evidence: Bank Statements with Leah Wietholter, CFE, PI, CPA
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At the heart of all successful forensic accounting engagements or fraud investigations is the reliance and analysis of evidence. Best circumstantial evidence in a financial investigation are sources of information or data that are furthest removed from the influence of a subject. If you want to ensure that you uncover facts resulting in defensible …
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064 - IRS Whistleblower - Robert Nordlander
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An unnamed IRS-Criminal Investigation supervisory special agent is making headlines about the politicization of the Department of Justice. The whistleblower is seeking advice from the United States Congress to disclose what he (assuming it is a he) knows regarding preferential treatment of the Department of Justice. In this episode, I discuss the r…
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063 - From FBI Forensic Accountant to CEO - Leah Wietholter
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Leah Wietholter is a CPA, CFE, Private Investigator, and CEO of Workman Forensics, a forensic accounting firm in Tulsa, Oklahoma. She started her career at the FBI, went to a CPA firm, and then later started her own firm. https://www.workmanforensics.com/ https://open.spotify.com/show/5XIzhOCoLSoFG1r4IrJ1Lf In this episode we discuss: Why Leah star…
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062 - Fighting Elder Abuse with Forensic Accounting - Karen Webber
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Karen Webber is a CPA, CFE, and the founder of FraudFindr.com, a software company specializing in fighting financial exploitation of elderly persons. She is currently a partner at The Bonadio Group. https://fraudfindr.com/ https://www.bonadio.com/our-people/karen-webber In this episode, we discuss: How forensic accounting is used to fight elder abu…
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061 - Fraud Examinations in Bankruptcy - Brian Behr of EDNC Bankruptcy Administrator
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Brian Behr is the Bankruptcy Administrator for the Eastern District of North Carolina. The Bankruptcy Administrator's Office and the Bankruptcy Trustee's Office are similar across the country. They serve as the watchdog for the Bankruptcy Court. Very often the Bankruptcy Administrator seeks or refers fraud examiners to assist in bankruptcy proceedi…
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007 - What is a Special Agent's Report? - Robert Nordlander
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The Special Agent's Report (aka pros report) is a compilation of all the information that the government believes is relevant for a criminal tax prosecution. It should be in the discovery file. The PDF file is easy to navigate, but the instructions are at the very end of the file. Although the report is around 30 pages, the full PDF file will be hu…
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060 - Fraud Investigations - Tiffany Couch of Acuity Forensics
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Tiffany Couch is an author, forensic accountant and owner of Acuity Forensics. She has a CPA license, CFE and CFF credential. She wrote about fraud stories in "The Thief in Your Company." www.acuityforensics.com In this episode, we discuss: The emotional toll on fraud victims. How she started her forensic accounting business. Why she wrote her book…
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77. Cases Involving Criminal Defense | Chris Ekimoff & Jessica Yohe
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This summer while at the ACFE Global Fraud Conference several speakers and friends of the podcast got together to play an escape room. Before and after the escape room adventure, Leah found herself engrossed in stories from investigators around the US and didn’t want the conversation to end. It was these valuable conversations that inspired the for…
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006 - Civil Tax vs Criminal Tax (Why an Expert is Needed) - Robert Nordlander
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Large differences exist between a civil tax investigation and a criminal tax investigation. Knowing these differences is important in defending taxpayers in a criminal tax investigation. Just because someone worked for the IRS doesn't make them the best choice in assisting in criminal tax matters. In this episode, I explain the differences and why …
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059 - Association of Certified Financial Crime Specialists (ACFCS) - Erin O'Loughlin
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Erin O’Loughin is the Senior Director of Training at the Association of Certified Financial Crime Specialists (ACFCS). She has been an analyst for the CIA and financial institutions. https://www.acfcs.org/ In this episode we discuss: How she started her career in investigating fraud and money laundering How the ACFCS started The role of the ACFCS i…
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005 - Badges of Fraud to Cause a Fraud Referral - Robert Nordlander
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Badges of fraud are taxpayer behaviors that the civil side of IRS is trained to look for during their assessment and collection activities. In this episode, I review common examples of the badges of fraud the lead to a fraud referral for a criminal tax investigation. www.nordlandercpa.comBy Robert Nordlander, CPA, CFE
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004 - What is a 5 Way Conference? - Robert Nordlander
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When the civil side of IRS believes that a tax crime has been committed, they create a report and refer the allegations to IRS-Criminal Investigation for evaluation. Within 10 days of receiving this file, IRS-CI meets with the civil side. This is called a "5 Way Conference." In this conference, certain questions are asked to help IRS-CI evaluate th…
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76. Criminal Defense Casework | Tracy Coenen & Mary Breslin
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058 - New Book is Published and Other Updates - Robert Nordlander
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In this short episode, there are a few updates on what is happening recently. My new book, Criminal Tax Secrets, is published on Amazon. Please get a copy for that special someone who needs to know how IRS-CI evaluates criminal tax investigations. The book is a reference guide, so a paperback will serve you better than a Kindle; or just get both. A…
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003 - Does an Administrative or Grand Jury Investigation Make a Difference? - Robert Nordlander
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IRS-Criminal Investigation has the authority to investigate tax crimes either administratively or grand jury. Both have strengths and weaknesses for the prosecution and for the defense. In this episode, I discuss both types of investigations, and how to evaluate them. If you are interested in how IRS-CI evaluates its investigations, my recent book …
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002 - Review of 2022 IRS-CI Annual Report
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In this episode, I review the IRS-CI 2022 Annual Report and give some insights on the organization, including highlights of the various criminal investigations around the United States. The 2022 Annual Report features various parts of IRS-CI and its importance in the IRS mission. The report shows various statistics and trends about the types of cas…
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Criminal Tax Files is about when taxes and crimes meet. The weekly podcast is hosted by Robert Nordlander, a 20 year veteran with IRS-Criminal Investigation. The goal is to bring information about criminal tax matters. From investigations to prosecutions or anything else in between this podcast is dedicated to the criminal tax industry. If you like…
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75. Financial Statement Fraud Cases| Brian Willingham & Clay Glasgow
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This summer while at the ACFE Global Fraud Conference several speakers and friends of the podcast got together to play an escape room. Before and after the escape room adventure, Leah found herself engrossed in stories from investigators around the US and didn’t want the conversation to end. It was these valuable conversations that inspired the for…
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057 - Forensic Accounting in Federal Public Defender's Office - JP Davis
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J.P. Davis is a federal public defender for the Western Judicial District of North Carolina. The federal public defender's office represents indigent clients in federal criminal court. At times, those attorneys need experts, especially in white-collar crimes. https://ncw.fd.org/ In this episode, we discuss: The purpose of the federal public defende…
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74. Cases Involving Criminal Defense | Chris Ekimoff & Jessica Yohe
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This summer while at the ACFE Global Fraud Conference several speakers and friends of the podcast got together to play an escape room. Before and after the escape room adventure, Leah found herself engrossed in stories from investigators around the US and didn’t want the conversation to end. It was these valuable conversations that inspired the for…
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Sam Azhari is a white collar defense attorney in Chicago, Illinois. He represents defendants across the country. As PPP prosecutions are pursued, Sam talks about how the fraud is committed and how the courts are evaluating the crimes. https://azharillc.com/ In this episode, we discuss: How fraud is committed with PPP and EIDL loans The criteria use…
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73. Business Embezzlement Cases | Tracy Coenen & Mary Breslin
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055 - From Ponzi Scheme to Forensic Software - Tod McDonald of Valid8
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Tod McDonald was a CPA investigating a bankruptcy case, when he uncovered the largest Ponzi scheme in the history of the Northwest United States. Seeing the need for forensic accounting software, he co-founded Valid8, a forensic accounting software company. https://www.valid8financial.com/ In this episode, we discuss: How he uncovered the largest P…
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72. Estate Case Stories with Brian Willingham and Clay Glasgow
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054 - Becoming The Everyday Ethicist - Jo Erven
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Amanda "Jo" Erven is the President of Audit Consulting Education, LLC. She is an author, trainer, and speaker on Internal Audit and Ethics. She has a CPA and CIA license, and also a CFE credential. Her latest book is "Becoming The Everyday Ethicist: Doing Things the Right Way the First Time", which is available on Amazon. www.auditconsultingeducati…
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053 - 87,000 Armed IRS Agents? - Robert Nordlander
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A recent federal budget created funding for 87,000 IRS employees over the next 10 years. Unfortunately, there are news reports and in speeches by elected officials, that the IRS is hiring 87,000 armed agents. This is far from the truth. But there is some truth that IRS does have armed agents; the IRS has a Criminal Investigation Division of approxi…
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052 - Don Fort - Former Chief of IRS-Criminal Investigation
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Don Fort was a former Chief of IRS-Criminal Investigation and is currently the Director of Investigations with the law firm Kostelanetz & Fink. https://kflaw.com/profile/don-fort/ In this episode, we discuss: His journey to becoming an IRS special agent The theory to seize assets from Russian Oligarchs The importance of mentors in this career Havin…
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051 - Forensic Accounting in FBI - Alton Sizemore (Repost)
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Alton Sizemore has over 25 years of experience with the FBI as a special agent specializing in forensic accounting. He is a CPA and CFE. He also teaches courses for the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners. At the FBI, he rose to the rank of Assistant Special Agent in Charge which he oversaw many areas of the FBI office in Birmingham, Alabama, …
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71. Divorce Money Guide with Tracy Coenen, CPA, CFF, MAFF
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Forensic accounting services are a necessary and valuable part of a divorce case - especially when it comes to property settlements. However, many divorce matters need a forensic accounting expert but cannot afford one. Tracy Coenen has been working with clients of divorce matters for over 20 years to find hidden assets and uncover understated inco…
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050 - 2022 ACFE Global Fraud Conference Review - Robert Nordlander
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The 2022 ACFE Global Fraud Conference was held in June of 2022 in Nashville, TN. Your host, Robert Nordlander, attended the conference and gives a review of the conference, including the venue, speakers, and the event itself. This was his first attendance of the conference so he did not know what to expect and overall gave it a thumbs up. Although …
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70. Nursing Home Abuse & Neglect Investigations with Nic Decker, PI
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Nursing home abuse and neglect is a real problem - especially for several states. In this episode of The Investigation Game Podcast, Nic Decker, PI explains the evidence and investigation steps he takes while investigating cases involving nursing home abuse and neglect. Based on his investigative experience with such matters, Nic shares with listen…
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69. Missing Persons Investigations with Krista Pavey, PI
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Missing persons investigations are just one of Private Investigator Krista Pavey's, a.k.a. SpyGirl, specialties. In this episode of The Investigation Game Podcast, Krista shares her story of becoming a private investigator, the “why” behind her focus on missing persons cases, and investigation best practices and applications. Krista Pavey is a Priv…
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049 - Civil Audit vs Criminal Tax Investigation - Robert Nordlander
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In this episode, your host, Robert Nordlander, discusses the difference between a civil tax audit and a criminal tax investigation. The stakes are at the highest in a criminal tax investigation. Therefore, not just any CPA or forensic accountant should be hired by a taxpayer or taxpayer's attorney. Even if the expert is a former IRS employee doesn'…
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68. The Career Path of a Forensic Accountant with Hayden Lewellen, CPA, CFE
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A common question for forensic accounting experts is, “How do I break into this industry and become a forensic accountant?” In this week’s episode, Leah interviews Hayden Lewellen, a forensic accountant who started this career path with an FBI internship and a public accounting internship. Learn more about his journey and advice to others seeking g…
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048 - Certified in Financial Forensics (CFF) - Natalie Lewis at Windham Brannon
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Natalie Lewis is a CPA, forensic accountant, and principal with the CPA firm Windham Brannon in Atlanta, GA. She earned a CFF (Certified in Financial Forensics) which is an additional credential for CPAs. https://windhambrannon.com/our-team/natalie-lewis/ https://us.aicpa.org/membership/join/cff-exam.html In this episode, we discuss: The value of t…
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67. Digital Evidence Collection with Robert Fried
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In 2022, is there any investigation that will not benefit from digital evidence collection? Our guest this week, Robert Fried, is a digital forensics expert who discusses the answer to this question with Leah in addition to other digital evidence collection questions. Robert Fried is a seasoned expert and industry thought leader with over 20 years …
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As a continuation to data processing and comparative analysis, Rachel and Leah discuss more of the analyses and tools used to help clients find the needle in the data haystack. In this episode, they discuss: Source and Use Summary Analysis Interesting Data Findings Analysis Risk Indicator Analysis The information in today's podcast is just a glimps…
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After the case plan is approved by a client, the financial investigator must then get to work processing and analyzing the financial data. Leah and Rachel begin by discussing how to process both standard and non-standard data in financial/fraud investigations for data analysis. Then, they discuss in detail the first of several Data Sleuth® analysis…
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