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S5E10: Writing screenplays and novels: With Rich Leder
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Louise Harnby and Denise Cowle talk to Rich Leder about writing screenplays and novels. Rich has worked with some of the biggest names in the movie industry. He shares what he's learned about Hollywood, TV and novel craft. Listen To Find Out More About The differences between writing a screenplay and novel from scratch Cooking for Cannibals: Being …
Louise Harnby and Denise Cowle talk about editing short-form content such as newsletters, letters, blog posts, short stories, essays and reports. Listen To Find Out More About The different types of content that fall into the short-form category The benefits and challenges of short-form content editing Advice on the remit: client expectations, the …
Louise Harnby and Denise Cowle talk about accountability groups, and how they can help editors and other freelance editorial professionals emotionally and practically. Listen To Find Out More About Taking plans beyond the planning stage How an accountability group can help you How you set one up. How many people to include in a group How often an a…
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S5E7: Sensitivity reading: With editor Crystal Shelley
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Louise Harnby and Denise Cowle talk to editor Crystal Shelley about sensitivity reading. Listen To Find Out More About What is sensitivity reading? What types of topics do people read for? What does the sensitivity reading process look like? Why should an author hire a sensitivity reader? What type of feedback does a sensitivity reader give? How do…
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S5E6: 3 ways to tackle editorial marketing overwhelm
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Louise Harnby and Denise Cowle discuss marketing for editors and proofreaders, and offer 3 tips on how to overcome the fear. Listen To Find Out More About Giving yourself permission to be an imperfect marketer Concentrating on your own marketing rather than comparing yourself with everyone else Following your own path and developing a strategy that…
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S5E5: Creative writing tips: With thriller writer Andy Maslen
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Louise Harnby and Denise Cowle talk to thriller writer Andy Maslen about the creative-writing process. Listen To Find Out More About Writing a series vs standalone novels Tips on developing a coherent series Starting afresh with a new set of characters in a new environment Top creative-writing tips for beginner author Recommended writing-craft reso…
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S5E4: From the printed page to audio book: With author David Unger
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Louise Harnby and Denise Cowle talk to author David Unger about transforming a novel from print to audio. Listen To Find Out More About Doing your own narration vs hiring a pro How to find a professional voice artist Which qualities are important The process of working with a professional narrator Obstacles to creating audio books Costs and time fr…
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S5E3: Story creation and revision: With author David Unger
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Louise Harnby and Denise Cowle talk to mystery writer David Unger about story creation and revision. Listen To Find Out More About What made David want to start writing and who inspired him Writing an alter ego The revision process On being edited David Unger: davidungerphd.com Ask Us A Question The easiest way to ping us a question is via Facebook…
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S5E2: Zombie rules we can do without, part 1
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Louise Harnby and Denise Cowle talk about zombie rules, and why they have no place in a professional editor's toolbox. Listen To Find Out More About What a zombie rule is Why split infinitives are not grammatically problematic Why it's okay to start a sentence with a conjunction Ask Us A Question The easiest way to ping us a question is via Faceboo…
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S5E1: Why editors and proofreaders should use audio
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Louise Harnby and Denise Cowle talk about why audio is such a great medium for editors who want to build brand trust and grow their businesses. Listen to find out more about The popularity of audio content Stability during playback Native hosting on websites Voices as unique brand identifiers and trust builders Audio as an accessibility tool that a…
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S4E12: Moving from traditional to indie publishing. With John A. Connell
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Louise and Denise talk to Barry Award-nominated thriller writer John A. Connell about moving from Berkley (Penguin USA) to independent publishing. Listen To Find Out More About: Being a Hollywood camera operator ... Jurassic Park, Thelma and Louise, and NYPD Blue Getting a publishing contract with a major press The Mason Collins series When publish…
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S4E11: How to write a military story that sells. With Brunella Costagliola
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Louise and Denise chat with Brunella Costagliola, a specialist military writer and editor, about what makes a compelling military story. Listen To Find Out More About: What makes a good military book Style guides for editing military books Common problems authors face when writing military books Fact-checking resources for military writers Contacti…
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S4E10: Editing erotica and adult fiction. With Maya Berger
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Louise and Denise talk with fellow editor Maya Berger about editing erotic fiction. Listen To Find Out More About: Does adult fiction need editing? Sorting out the language: pornography versus erotica Editing in your comfort zone Common problems authors struggle with Sub-genres and good-fit editing Evaluating an author's work Contacting Maya Berger…
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S4E9: 6 ways to use audio for book promotion
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Denise and Louise discuss the growth of audio in the book world, and how using sound creates reader engagement and helps build a fan base. Listen To Find Out More About: Narrating a sample chapter Creating free audio content that's usable Host a live sound event Broadcast an interview Encouraging sign-ups with your voice Starting a podcast Captivat…
Louise and Denise discuss whether working with a specialist editor is necessary for all books and every type of editing. Listen To Find Out More About: Fiction versus non-fiction The type of editing Subject/genre Editing bites and other resources Storycraft: The Complete Guide to Writing Narrative Nonfiction (Chicago Guides to Writing, Editing, and…
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S4E7: 18 writing-craft blogs for editors and authors
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Louise and Denise talk about 18 blogs for authors and editors that offer guidance on various aspects of writing craft. Listen to find out more about: ALLi blog: Alliance of Independent Authors Ann Handley blog Articles: The Writer’s Digest Articles: Tim Storm, Storm Writing School Bacon Editing blog: Claire Bacon Bookbaby blog Clarity: Lisa Poisso,…
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S4E6: How to run and grow an editing and proofreading business. Q&A, Part 2
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In this episode of The Editing Podcast, Denise and Louise answer questions about how to run and grow an editing and proofreading business. Listen To Find Out More About: Increasing organic lead generation Assembly Bill 5 (AB5) and the impact on freelancers in California The benefits of working with publishers, packagers and project-management agenc…
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S4E5: How to run and grow an editing and proofreading business. Q&A, Part 1
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Denise and Louise answer questions about how to run and grow an editing and proofreading business. Listen To Find Out More About: When editorial projects don't arrive with us on time ... how to manage it and how to prevent it Dealing with burnout and procrastination How to get fiction work with indie authors Making time for marketing Increasing eff…
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S4E4: How to save money and time with book coaching
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Denise and Louise chat with book coach and editor Lisa Poisso about honing story craft before embarking on expensive structural and line editing. Listen To Find Out More About: Story basics - the Plot Accelerator Why developmental/structural editing comes after book coaching Genre, viewpoint, tense, character motivation and conflict, plot and subpl…
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S4E3: Writing a content-marketing book. With John Espirian
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Louise and Denise talk to technical writer and editor John Espirian about content marketing, editing and bringing a book to market. Listen To Find Out More About: Content DNA - the book Developing the book's concept: The shape of you Writing the book Tackling the editing process Cover design and branding The benefits of a foreword Content marketing…
Denise and Louise discuss how to use exclamation marks. Listen To Find Out More About: What exclamation marks look like Functions: Surprise, emphasis, volume How many to use Social media use Reasons to omit them: web, business academic copy Balancing use and abuse Editing bites How to Fix Your Damn Book, by James Osiris Baldwin, CreateSpace, 2016 P…
Denise and Louise discuss the grammar police, how to manage them, and why they're nothing to do with professional editing. Listen To Find Out More About: Who are the grammar police? Social media and the grammar police Pedantry versus professional editing for style, preference and flow Writing style: Business, academia, web copy, creative non-fictio…
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S3E10: Using conlangs (constructed languages) in fiction
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Denise and Louise talk with guest Sea Chapman about constructed languages, or conlangs. Listen to find out more about: What is a constructed language, or conlang? The different types of conlang Tips for writers who want to include conlangs in fiction The rules of play Base languages sometimes and conlang creation Resources mentioned in the show Ema…
Denise and Louise discuss em dashes, or em rules, and how to use them in fiction and non-fiction writing. Listen to find out more about: Parenthetical use Indicating a new speaker Indicating omission Profanity Showing faltering speech Conveying end-of-line interruptions Editing bites The Magic of Fiction, Beth Hill ‘Start here: How to self-publish …
Denise and Louise explain what a comma splice is, why you should usually avoid it, and how it can add clarity. Listen to find out more about: What a comma splice is Commas, lists and why splices confuse readers When editing out comma splices would spoil rhythm Anaphora Editing bites The Emotional Craft of Fiction, Donald Maass The Cambridge Encyclo…
Denise and Louise discuss en dashes, or en rules, and how to use them in fiction and non-fiction writing. Listen to find out more about: Parenthetical use Indicating number spans Placement in dialogue interrupted by narrative description Linking in adjectival compounds Showing faltering speech Indicating a relationship/alternative Profanity Editing…
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S3E6: Developmental editing and critiques
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Denise and Louise chat with editor Sophie Playle about developmental editing and critiques for fiction authors. Listen to find out more about: An overview of what developmental editing includes Critiques as big-picture evaluation Who benefits from developmental editing and critiques Where developmental editing and critiques fit into the editing pro…
Denise and Louise demystify (and stand up for) one of the most misunderstood pieces of punctuation – the semi-colon. Listen To Find Out More About: What the semi-colon looks like Separating two independent clauses Subjects and predicates Weighting and parallelism Comma splices Separating items in a list Emojis Objections to the semi-colon Resources…
Denise and Louise chat with guest Tim Storm about the concept of unearned writing, and how to craft prose that's authentic and plausible. Listen To Find Out More About: The writer’s responsibility to the reader and the story Story events and character reactions in relation to plausibility and authenticity Salvation events Unnatural character realiz…
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S3E3: 4 features of language that aren't Americanisms
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Denise and Louise chat about 4 features of written language that are often thought to be Americanisms but aren’t. Listen To Find Out More About: -iz- spellings serial commas em dashes which/that in restrictive relative clauses Mentioned In The Show Lexico/Oxford: ‘The Differences Between British and American Terms’ Lynne Murphy on British and Ameri…
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S3E2: Rob Drummond on grammar pedantry and peevery
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Denise and Louise talk with linguist Rob Drummond about grammar pedantry, peevery, youth language, and non-standard language in context. Listen To Find Out More About: Correct or conventional – a linguist’s perspective Better versus standard Zombie rules, and what we can ditch Youth language – dumbing down English or enriching it? Young people's la…
Denise and Louise talk about how to use question marks in fiction and non-fiction according to convention. Listen To Find Out More About: Direct questions Indirect questions How-to statements Idiomatic phrases and question marks Double punctuation Uncertain dates and date ranges Indicating uncertainty Mentioned In The Show But Can I Start A Sentenc…
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S2E15: 10 things an author needs to tell an editor
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Denise and Louise talk about 10 things writers need to tell an editor when they get in touch for the first time to discuss a project. Listen to find out more about: Word count File format Genre or subject Other rounds of editing The type of editing required Intended audience and where you’re publishing Time frame What else you’ve written Whether yo…
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S2E14: Editing and proofreading for a project management agency
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Denise and Louise talk to Jenny Slater, an in-house editor with Newgen Publishing UK. Newgen is a project management agency offering editing, proofreading, typesetting and indexing for publishers. Note: Denise and Louise have no affiliation with this organization. Newgen exhibited at the 2019 SfEP conference at Aston University, and it was the perf…
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S2E13: Copyediting and the fact-checking process
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Denise and Louise talk to Laura Poole, a professional copyeditor who specializes in working with university presses on scholarly non-fiction, mainly in the humanities. Laura discusses the importance of fact checking. Listen to find out more about: What a copyediting service includes When fact checking takes place in the editorial process Fiction: p…
Denise and Louise talk to Maya Berger, a professional editor who works with Young Adult and children’s fiction, speculative and science fiction, and romance and adult fiction. In this episode, we focus on writing and editing erotica. Listen to find out more about: Why authors shouldn’t fear approaching an editor Why erotica deserves the same editor…
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S2E11: Organizing an editorial conference
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Denise and Louise talk to Beth Hamer, a professional proofreader and the Chartered Institute of Editing and Proofreading's conference director. Beth chats about how to organize a successful editorial conference. Listen to find out more about: Responding to feedback Refining the delegate experience Benefits of attending the annual SfEP conference Ch…
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S2E10: How to use quotation marks (speech marks) in writing
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Denise and Louise discuss how to use quote marks (or speech marks) in writing ... and when not to use them. Summary of the Show What are quote marks for? Should I use straight or curly quote marks? Should I use single or double quote marks? Where does the closing quote mark go in relation to other punctuation? When not to use quote marks Editing B…
Louise and Denise discuss writing and editing for the web with guest Erin Brenner. Listen to find out more about: Why working with web content is different from writing for the page In which programs should we create content for the web? Pre-upload checks on the writing Pre-upload checks on metadata links, and alt-text Quality control: self-editing…
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S2E8: Publisher chat with Jen Hamilton-Emery of Salt
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Denise and Louise talk to Jen Hamilton-Emery, co-director of Salt, one of the UK's premier independent literary publishers. Listen more to find out about: The Salt story: awards, authors and publishing goals Author retention Indie publishing and the digital revolution The submission process The author–publisher relationship The publishing process R…
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S2E7: How to change your editor with minimum stress
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Denise and Louise discuss how to manage the transition from one editor to another. Listen more to find out about: Why authors change editors Planning ahead and giving notice Whether the editor should get involved in sourcing a replacement Checking T&Cs and cancellation policies Information and tools to share with the new editor Editing Bites The NC…
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S2E6: Tips for formatting in Microsoft Word
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Denise and Louise offer some quick tips on formatting your Word file ... final tidy-ups to get your file in shape, and that accord with mainstream publishing standards. And there's a free PDF that includes all the search strings we talk about! Editing bites Wildcard Cookbook for Microsoft Word: Amazon UK: https://amzn.to/2KFh39H. Amazon US: https:/…
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S2E5: 10 killer editing macros for writers and editors
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Denise and Louise talk about 10 editing macros that will save you time and improve the quality of your writing. Listen to find out more about: Macros how they work in Word CatchPhrase CitationLister and CitationListChecker CompareWordList File Cleaner FullPointInDialogue and CommaInDialogue MultiSwitch PerfectIt ProperNounAlyse SpellingErrorLister …
Denise and Louise talk about adverbs, and how to use or remove them purposefully. Listen to find out more about: What Stephen King said about adverbs Adverb use versus adverb abuse Definition of an adverb with examples Definition of an adverbial phrase with examples Adverb red flag #1: the double tell in narrative Adverb red flag #2: the double tel…
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S2E3: How to edit for consistency and style with PerfectIt
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Denise and Louise talk with Daniel Heuman, founder of Intelligent Editing and developer of PerfectIt – consistency-checking and style-enforcing software for editors and writers. Listen to find out more about: What PerfectIt does Who uses PerfectIt What’s new with PerfectIt 4 Using the onboard styles The PerfectIt 4 interface How to access PerfectIt…
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S2E2: 4 types of editing for 4 kinds of writer
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Denise and Louise discuss four different kinds of writers and how identifying what kind you are can help you work out the kind of editing that’s the best fit for you. Listen to find out more about: The confident writer The nervous writer The reluctant writer The impatient writer Editing bites ‘How to proofread your own writing – 10 tips to clean up…
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S2E1: How to prepare your book file for editing
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Denise and Louise discuss how to prepare your book file for editing ... whether you're doing it yourself or working with an editor. Listen to find out more about: When to do interior layout Where to do your editing Whether to edit in a single document or multiples Using styles Font choice Colour choice Paragraph design Spacing Defining headings Pag…
Denise and Louise discuss how long it takes to complete an edit – whether you’re doing it yourself or working with a professional – and how to plan ahead. Listen to find out more about editing time in relation to: Word count Project complexity Level of editing undertaken, including referencing, style-guide adherence and fact-checking Publishing imp…
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S1E11: Does location matter when working with an editor?
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In this episode of The Editing Podcast, Denise and Louise discuss location and whether where your editor lives actually matters. Listen to find out more about location in relation to: Local, regional and national knowledge Face-to-face meetings University policies Spelling, idiomatic and dialectical variance Pronunciation problems Communicating wit…
Denise and Louise attended the 2019 ATOMICON digital marketing conference. During one of the breaks, they recorded a chat about book editing and marketing, accompanied by pink pineapples and women on stilts! Listen to find out more about: Why editors and authors should attend marketing conferences Stepping outside your comfort zone and learning new…