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I’m here to totally disrupt the legal industry and how lawyers exit their law firms. I want to crush the old notion that you can’t sell your law firm or that it is not worth anything. You absolutely can and … There is a Better, Much more profitable way.
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Do you hate working as a lawyer? Are you an unhappy lawyer who wants to leave the law, but isn't sure what to do next? Do your family and friends think you're crazy for wanting to leave the law, or are you too afraid to tell them you don't want to be a lawyer? The Former Lawyer Podcast is for you! Each week, host Sarah Cottrell interviews a different former lawyer who has left the law behind. Hear inspiring stories about how these former lawyers are thriving and found their way to careers an ...
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We’re here to share tips, resources, wins, losses and encouragement for moms who are raising a family while building a lawfirm, so you feel less alone in your journey toward a fulfilling career and being the best mom you can be.
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Welcome to The Next Level Law Podcast, where your hosts, Arash Eskandari and Richard Perillo, unlock the secrets to law firm success in the modern world. Whether you’re a seasoned law firm owner or just starting out, this podcast is your go-to resource for accelerating growth, refining your business tactics, and mastering marketing strategies that work. Join us every week as we dive deep into the challenges and triumphs of managing and growing a law firm in today’s competitive environment. W ...
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In this episode of The Former Lawyer Podcast, Sarah Cottrell talks with Victoria Collier, founder of Quid Pro Quo Law, about the process of preparing a law firm for sale. Victoria shares her own journey, from building her practice to successfully selling it, and offers critical insights into the steps lawyers can take to make their firms scalable a…
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In this episode of The Former Lawyer Podcast, host Sarah Cottrell shares a conversation with Annie Little about disclosing ADHD and other neurodivergent or mental health conditions in the workplace, specifically within Biglaw. As October is ADHD Awareness Month, Sarah highlights the challenges lawyers face when considering disclosure and the system…
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In this episode, host Victoria Collier sits down with Charley Mann, founder of Law Firm Alchemy, to discuss how law firm owners can transform their entrepreneurial mindset and build essential business skills. Charley shares insights on overcoming growth plateaus, marketing strategies for law firms at various stages, and the importance of embracing …
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In this episode of The Former Lawyer Podcast, Sarah Cottrell tackles a topic that has been coming up in many of her conversations with clients: the overwhelming feeling that you just don’t want to work anymore. If you’ve ever felt like you hate working and can’t imagine enjoying any job, especially after working in a toxic legal environment, this e…
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In this special Life After Law episode, host Victoria Collier sits down with Lora McInturf, a former lawyer turned coach, to discuss navigating personal and professional transitions. Lora opens up about her unique journey from a career in accounting and law to becoming an expat and ultimately finding her passion for coaching. Together, they explore…
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In this episode, host Victoria Collier talks with Tyson Mutrux, founder of the Mutrux Firm and co-founder of the Maximum Lawyer Guild. Tyson shares his journey from his military background to law school, to building a successful law firm and a thriving community for lawyers. They discuss the power of connections, the importance of creating a suppor…
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The Former Lawyer framework has recently received a glow-up, and this podcast episode covers all the fun updates. Sarah has a few things that stuck out to her and would be the most helpful to anyone considering becoming a former lawyer. She covers those items in this episode to highlight them for all the podcast listeners considering joining. See s…
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In this episode, host Victoria Collier goes into the world of business valuations, specifically focusing on two essential metrics: EBITDA (Earnings Before Interest, Taxes, Depreciation, and Amortization) and SDE (Seller’s Discretionary Earnings). These metrics are more than just finance jargon—they are crucial for accurately valuing your law firm o…
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Today’s podcast episode features a conversation between Sarah and a member of the Collab, Liza Hanks. Liza made a career transition out of practicing law after 22 years, and they discussed how the Collab played a role in her transition and decision-making process. This conversation is helpful for anyone considering making their transition out of la…
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In this episode, host Victoria Collier is joined by Terrell Turner, CPA and founder of the TL Turner Group, to discuss the essential role of finance in law firm success. Terrell, a passionate advocate for simplifying accounting, shares his journey from corporate finance to helping law firms across the country better understand their financial healt…
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You may have worked in a workplace or more than one legal workplace where they said that they had a no-asshole rule. Clearly, there are many people who have worked in similar workplaces because this episode is one of the most downloaded episodes. Again, it's one of the ones I hear about the most from people because there is so much agreement with t…
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In this episode, Victoria sits down with Allison Williams, founder of Law Firm Mentor, to delve into the critical role of C-suites in scaling a law firm. Allison provides expert insights on when and how to build a C-suite team to transform your firm from a small practice into a thriving multi-figure business. Discover the strategies for effective l…
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The next episode in our summer re-release series is Burnout is a Feature, Not a Bug. This is one of the things that I honestly think is the most important for you to realize if you are working in a toxic workplace, if you're working in a large law firm, or in Biglaw. Burnout is a feature of the way that work is organized in these organizations, it …
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In this episode of our special series, "Life After Law," Victoria Collier sits down with Rebecca Bratspies, an esteemed law professor, author, and historian, to explore how lawyers can transition into fulfilling roles outside the traditional practice of law. Rebecca shares her experiences working on innovative projects that blend law, education, an…
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I originally recorded the episode Your Job Should Not Make You Cry back in the very early days of lockdown when I was still editing the podcast myself and needed to be able to edit some shorter episodes, which ultimately I discovered was a happy accident because this episode is one of the most popular episodes of the podcast. It is one of the most …
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In this episode, Victoria is joined by real estate expert Paul Neal, author of Un-lease Your Business. They explore the transformative potential of buying commercial real estate for your business. Paul shares practical insights on overcoming common obstacles, the advantages of property ownership, and how to strategically approach purchasing real es…
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The next episode in our summer re-release series is one of the episodes from our Collab member question series. If you've listened to this series before, you know that I asked a bunch of different people in the Collab to answer some questions about their experience, what they've learned, the things that they have taken away from the process of figu…
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In this episode of the Next Level Law podcast, hosts Richard Perillo and Arash Eskandari sit down with Victoria Collier, founder of Quid Pro Quo Law. With over 18 years of experience running her own elder law and estate planning firm, Victoria now specializes in law firm valuations and assisting attorneys in buying and selling practices. Victoria s…
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In this Next Level Law podcast episode, host Richard Perillo sits down with Snehal Massey, owner of SPM Law Office in Columbia, Maryland. Snehal shares her journey from a marketing career to founding her law firm, highlighting her focus on family law, including divorce, custody, and adoption cases. She discusses the emotional aspects of family law,…
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In this episode, we discuss the emotional challenges of letting go with our host, Victoria Collier. Victoria shares her personal experience of selling her law firm and the profound sense of identity loss that followed. She highlights the importance of understanding the grief and emotional process involved in selling a law firm. This episode aims to…
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Next up in this summer series of the most popular episodes of The Former Lawyer Podcast is an episode that I did about malignant narcissism in the legal profession and specifically signs of malignant narcissism because no surprise, narcissists are very common in our profession and a lot of the things that you experience in your legal workplace that…
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Are you confident in your financial plan for retirement? Join Victoria Collier and Jonathan Blau, founder of Fusion Family Wealth, as they uncover the secrets to effective financial planning tailored for lawyers. From understanding the critical role of insurance to interviewing financial advisors and exploring the intricate link between money and h…
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The reason that I recorded this episode originally is that so often when lawyers are thinking about leaving, one of the things that holds them back from leaving especially if they work in a law firm is that other people are going to look down on them and think that they're making a terrible decision, et cetera. I think it's critical to remember, as…
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In this episode of our “Life After Law” series, host Victoria Collier explores the world of style and self-expression with Estelle Winsett, an attorney turned personal stylist for female lawyers. Estelle shares her inspiring journey from the legal profession to empowering women attorneys to show up as their most authentic selves through fashion. Li…
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Today we're kicking off a summer series with episodes of the podcast that have been released over the past, well, honestly, almost five years the podcast has been going. These episodes that we're going to be re-releasing are all episodes that have been extremely popular, they're some of the most downloaded, or they're some of the ones that I hear t…
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Join us for an engaging conversation with Adam Williams, founder of Pennywise Tax Strategies, as we dive into the world of proactive tax planning and business strategy. Discover how understanding and leveraging tax laws can significantly impact your financial health and business success. Key Takeaways: 1.⁠ ⁠Proactive Tax Planning: Learn why continu…
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In today’s episode, Sarah addresses a common question that lawyers who are looking to leave their positions often ask: Will you need a bridge job to make the transition? Sara answers by first discussing the two types of bridge jobs and what lawyers need to consider when answering this question for themselves. See show notes at formerlawyer.com/239…
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In this episode, you will discover, alongside our host, Victoria Collier, the power of remote work and the importance of technological advancements in law firms. Drawing from her own experiences and industry knowledge, she provides actionable advice on leveraging global talent, maintaining control with virtual teams, and overcoming resistance to ch…
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Today’s podcast episode features a conversation between Sarah and someone who is not actually a former lawyer. Tiffany Rogers is a therapist based in Chicago. She specializes in working with women in the corporate world, specifically Black women. With so much discussion about therapy on many podcast episodes, it’s great to feature a conversation wi…
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In this episode, host Victoria Collier sits down with Ruby Powers, a trailblazing immigration attorney and the visionary founder of Powers Law Group. Ruby brings over 15 years of experience in law practice management and is a respected author in the legal community. In this episode, we explore the critical elements of building a sustainable and sel…
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In today’s podcast episode, Sarah shares the hardest thing about leaving the law. She’s talked to many clients, peers, podcast guests, and people in her life; everyone encounters their own unique obstacles. However, the biggest thing keeping people from making a change is the practical reality. Lawyers get stuck trying to figure out things on the f…
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In this episode of our series "Life After Law", from the Smart Lawyers Position to Transition podcast, host Victoria Collier sits down with Sarah Cottrell, founder of Former Lawyer LLC and host of the Former Lawyer podcast. Sarah shares her journey from practicing law to helping other lawyers transition out of the legal profession. They discuss the…
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In today’s podcast episode, Sarah is chatting with Kelcey Baker, a returning guest. Their conversation reviews why it isn’t normal to want a break from work so bad that you think about getting hit by a bus. Yes, that’s a common expression within lawyer networks. There is a trigger warning because the conversation dives into narcissism, abuse, self-…
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In this episode of Smart Lawyers Position to Transition, Victoria Collier sits down with Maya Markovich, Executive Director of the Justice Technology Association, to discuss how technology is revolutionizing law firms, transforming them into valuable businesses, and enhancing client service. Maya shares insights from her extensive experience in leg…
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In today’s episode, Sarah offers important advice to listeners. While practicing law, she constantly thought about what she wanted to do outside the law. But then her brain would start telling her everything that would make it a bad fit and instantly become negative. Lawyers are just trained to do this, and it’s important that you recognize that ah…
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In this episode of the Smart Lawyers Position to Transition podcast, host Victoria Collier sits down with Autumn Noble, the inspiring founder of the Lawyer Life Collective. Autumn, an attorney, speaker, author, and coach, shares her insights on the unique challenges women face in the legal profession. With a focus on navigating firm politics, achie…
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Today’s podcast episode features a conversation between Sarah and Andre Ferrari. He practiced law for a few years before becoming a real estate developer. Andre shares his career path and how he got to where he is today. It’s interesting to see how interested he’s always been in real estate and how that’s helped him transition between multiple role…
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In this episode of the Smart Lawyers Position to Transition podcast, host Victoria Collier sits down with Steve Fretzin, the president of Fretzin, Inc. and a seasoned expert in legal business development. Together, they delve into the step-by-step actions necessary to grow a successful law firm, exploring practical strategies and proven methods tha…
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In this Next Level Law podcast episode, hosts Arash Eskandari and Richard Perillo sit down with David Craig, the managing partner of Craig, Kelley & Faultless. David shares his expertise in law firm marketing, offering invaluable strategies for leveraging law firm growth. He discusses the significance of creating a positive client experience, estab…
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Summer has arrived! On today’s podcast, Sarah asks listeners the question, “How many vacations does your job have to ruin, cancel, impinge upon, or maybe make you not even plan before you decide enough is enough?” Many lawyers struggle to take vacations, and when they do, it’s a challenge to shut off work and enjoy themselves. So many of the people…
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Digital marketing isn't just for tech companies. Discover how law firms are leveraging the power of digital marketing to increase their value. In this episode, our host, Victoria, sits down with Seth Price, CEO of BluShark Digital. Together, they explore the transformative impact of digital marketing on growing and scaling a law firm. Tune in to le…
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Today’s podcast episode features another conversation with previous guest Annie Little. Sarah is chatting with her about thoughts and advice when it comes to finding a therapist as a lawyer. They discuss the differences between Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy (CBT) and share their experiences and observations. If…
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In this enriching episode of the Next Level Law Podcast, hosts Arash Eskandari and Richard Perillo, who together share 18 years of legal experience, engage in a compelling discussion with attorney and success coach Gary Miles. With over 40 years in the legal field, Gary shares insights from his career shift from personal injury to family law, drive…
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In this episode of our podcast series, “Life After Law,” host Victoria Collier interviews Sarah- Nell Walsh, CEO and founder of Wayfinders LLC, about thriving personally and professionally after leaving the legal profession. Sarah-Nell, a former litigation partner turned professional certified coach, shares insights into finding fulfillment and bal…
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In today’s podcast, Sarah discusses how to know when it’s the right time to leave law. Many people listening are grappling with this question, and often, when they ask it, they are looking for an external answer. There is no external answer. You are the only person that can decide when the time is right. The reality is that you need to ask yourself…
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In this episode, host Victoria Collier shares her expertise in the world of business brokers and their practices, sharing her recent experience attending a two-day training on becoming a business broker while highlighting the surprising revelations she encountered. Key Takeaways: 1.⁠ ⁠Insight into Broker Practices: The podcast provides valuable ins…
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In this riveting episode of the Next Level Law podcast, hosts Arash Eskandari and Richard Perillo sit down with Rick Burgoon, a multifaceted attorney whose career spans intellectual property, biotechnology, and criminal defense. Rick shares his unique journey from an aspiring doctor to a biotech patent lawyer and, eventually, a criminal defense att…
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Today’s podcast episode features a returning guest, Kelcey Baker, talking to Sarah. There is a content warning because they are discussing a recent story about a junior Biglaw partner in the UK passing away during an acute mental health episode. They discuss mental health issues and suicide. The story is important because it highlights some of the …
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In this episode, our host Victoria Collier, sits down with seasoned expert in legal marketing and mindset transformation, Jennifer Goddard, to explore the pervasive issue of the poverty mindset within law firms and the strategies to overcome it. Identifying the Scarcity Mindset: •⁠ ⁠Jennifer shares personal anecdotes and highlights symptoms of the …
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In this episode of the Next Level Law podcast, host Richard Perillo interviews attorney Jeremy Ramsey from Loves Park, Illinois. Jeremy shares his background and journey into estate planning, wills and probate, and real estate law. He discusses the importance of having an estate plan to avoid the costly and time-consuming probate process. Jeremy al…
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