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The Art of Accomplishment

Joe Hudson and Brett Kistler

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Applied self-exploration. The Art of Accomplishment reflects a unique way of relating in business, personal and internal life that leads to more connection and satisfying relationships, awakening your ability to create the life you want with ease and joy. Joe Hudson, a coach sought after by the world’s top companies and performers, partners with wingsuit-flying adventurer and entrepreneur Brett Kistler to examine practical tools for self-exploration that you can readily apply to meaningfully ...
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The 20 Minute Call Podcast is a podcast about the dreamers, boundary pushers, rebels and champions of the skydiving industry. Each episode is a narrative journey highlighted by the highs, lows, and luck that the skydiving industry delivers told by the most influential people within the sport. If you’ve ever dreamed of becoming a skydiver, opening a DZ or becoming the next world champion, check out The 20 Minute Call hosted by James La Barrie
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Radio Skydive UK

Craig Poxon, Brian Cumming

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Europe’s #1 skydiving podcast is full of skydiving news, advice, stories and interviews with some of the best skydivers from around the world. To happily misquote the 1990s cinematic masterpiece Point Break, RSUK is jumping *and* jerking off, with its entertaining, educational and irreverent banter.
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This travel podcast travels the unbeaten path. Unfolding Maps talks to adventurers of all dimensions about their expeditions and the experiences that shaped them. Join the host, Erik Lorenz, in his conversations with globetrotters, who are best-selling writers, award-winning photographers and critically-acclaimed filmmakers. Through the pens and lenses of these border crossers, Unfolding Maps tells stories that encourage us to step out of familiar spaces, to venture to the other side of bord ...
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Fun Fact

Arik Devens and Allen Pike

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Once a month, Arik Devens and Allen Pike take turns sharing fun facts. Practical, historical, technical, and trivial facts all deserve their fair shake.
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Imagine standing on a mountain, right at the edge of a cliff. Below you, the ground drops steeply. Then you take a step forward— and let yourself fall. You spread your arms and – after a few seconds – begin to fly. This feeling of flight is what many base jumpers and wingsuit flyers yearn for. They risk their lives for these moments of complete fre…
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Alana Blanchard joins Leticia Bufoni for a relaxed conversation on the shores of O'ahu, Hawaii, with the iconic Pipeline break in the background. Alana reflects on her early days growing up in Hawaii and learning to surf at one of the most famous spots in the world. She explains the significance of Pipeline and why surfers from around the globe are…
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Send Us Feedback via Text Zainab Alibhai has defied expectations and broken significant barriers, earning a place of recognition within the international skydiving community. Originally from Kenya, Zainab made her first skydive in 2014—a life-changing experience that set her on a remarkable path. From that moment, she embarked on an unconventional …
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Arik shares buttloads, Allen has too many facts, oxygen is heavy, strangeness is strange, moons cause issues, and we hit max fact capacity. This show has gone as all good things do. Thank you so much to all the Factors, we love you! You can follow Allen’s work and Arik’s. ❤️By Arik Devens and Allen Pike
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What’s all this fuss about experiments? What’s so great about them, and how does one even go about it? Join Joe and Brett for a deep dive on experiments! Hear about Joe’s early experiences that led him to place experimentation at the core of his self-exploration work and what makes them so important to the work we do at AOA. The characteristics of …
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Send Us Feedback via Text Sherry Butcher is a highly accomplished and influential figure in the skydiving community. She co-owns Aerohio Skydiving Center in Ashland, Ohio, and has been actively involved in the sport for over 30 years. Sherry made her first jump in May 1993 and has since made over 10,000 jumps. Her passion for skydiving led her to b…
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Host Leticia Bufoni sits down with Dashawn Jordan for an intimate conversation about his life, career, and perspective on risk-taking. Drawing from their long-standing friendship, the discussion flows naturally, unveiling the nuances of Dashawn's journey. Dashawn's also discusses his estranged father, who has recently re-entered his life, and the i…
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Joe’s favorite definition of pleasure is the noticing of sensations moving in the body—not just the good ones, but all of them. This week, Joe and Brett talk about pleasure and the role it plays in our lives. They discuss: The misconception that pleasure is separate from other emotions How allowing all emotions to be felt can lead to greater pleasu…
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Ocean joins Leticia at a beach house the next day to talk about their shared experience. During their conversation, Leticia learns about Ocean’s childhood and her deep-rooted fascination with sharks. They discuss the grave threats sharks face, including being hunted for their fins and the impact of ocean pollution. Leticia is shocked to learn the s…
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Whether we put authority figures on a pedestal or want to stick it to them, authority issues abound in our society. Joe and guest host Alexa Kistler connect over their shared history with authority issues. Together, they breakdown what the impacts can be for both the authority and the person with authority issues: How it distorts your world How it …
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We heard you! So many of you loved Joe and Brett’s last coaching breakdown that we are back with another. This time, they review a rapid-fire coaching session that starts out exploring jealousy but evolves into a deep dive into setting boundaries and fear of rejection. Together, they explore: - Opening the heart to opposing viewpoints - Feeling thr…
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In Part 1 of Episode 2 of The Team Ignition Show, host Leticia Bufoni chats with rock climber Alex Johnson before trying bouldering herself. During their conversation, Leticia notices the similarities between bouldering and skating, seeing many of her own experiences reflected in Alex's journey. Alex introduces Leticia to the basics of bouldering, …
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After their incredible wingsuit rodeo, Part 2 of the show sees Jeb join Leticia at her home for a fascinating in-depth conversation. Leticia delves into Jeb's upbringing and uncovers what compels him to jump into the abyss. She also explores his unique psyche and fearless mindset, which he needs to perform at his level. Jeb explains the three main …
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The desire to be seen is a primal human need, and under the guise of many names it drives our behaviors and shapes society. Tara Howley, co-founder of AOA, joins Brett for a conversation about the importance of being seen, why many of us fear it, and how shame colors our experience of it. They also explore the role of curiosity in resolving conflic…
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Send Us Feedback via Text In this episode, we dive into the world of Rook Nelson, a respected figure in the skydiving community and the owner of the legendary Skydive Chicago. With an astounding 26,000+ jumps to his name, Rook is a decorated competitor, boasting 13 World Championship Titles, 17 World Records, and 36 National Titles. His passion for…
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What does it mean to be “enough” to have a relationship? In this episode, Joe coaches a woman grappling with feelings of inadequacy in relationships. Through their conversation, they uncover her underlying desire for control and fear of self-abandonment. Together, they examine her beliefs about love, worthiness, and connection. Topics discussed: th…
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Send Us Feedback via Text Join us for an exhilarating episode as the master storyteller, Rich Grimm, returns for a second time to recount his latest adventures in the Seychelles and South Africa boogies. Get ready for a rollercoaster of emotions as Rich shares the thrilling highs and challenging lows of organizing skydiving events in some of the wo…
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Send Us Feedback via Text Matt Fry is a well-respected free flyer with a curiosity for various disciplines that include artistic freefly, big way VFS and even Speed Skydiving! If you’re not familiar with Matt Fry, you’ve seen his work as he served as one of the organizers for this year’s Max Pyro jump which must be considered one of the most specta…
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Our idea of failure and how we respond to it dramatically shapes our identity and, consequently, how we live our lives. When we fear failure as an end-all-be-all rather than viewing it as an opportunity to learn and iterate, it can significantly hinder our personal growth, creativity, and ability to reach our full potential. In this episode, Brett …
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Send Us Feedback via Text The indomitable Cheryl Stearns returns to the 20-Minute Call for a second interview to delve deeper into her remarkable career. We explore her aviation journey with over 23,000 flight hours, her quest to break Colonel Joe Kittinger's high jump record with StratoQuest, and her resilience in overcoming loss. Cheryl reflects …
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Send Us Feedback via Text Craig O'Brien has accomplished so much that often his title as a 5-time US National Champion and 3-time World Champion is overlooked! This oversight only happens because of the glowing items on his resumé which includes filming the epic skydiving scenes in Iron Man, Iron Man 3, Kingsman, Godzilla, Point Break, the Hangover…
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We’ve all experienced passive aggression and can often spot it when it happens to us. Whether we’re on the receiving end or dishing it out, our unowned anger seeps out of us and gets displayed in sometimes unexpected ways. In this episode, Joe and Brett get into the nitty gritty of passive aggression—what it is, how it comes up, some of the myriad …
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Send Us Feedback via Text Doug Smith has been in the sport of skydiving for 30 years and is renowned for creating one of the world's most beautiful dropzones - Chicagoland Skydiving Center. In 2011, CSC transitioned from Hinckley, Illinois, to a state-of-the-art 20,000-square-foot facility in nearby Rochelle. This impressive center features a resta…
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Send Us Feedback via Text Sara Curtis is our guest today, and her resumé reads like a thrilling adventure novel. She’s a stuntwoman, business owner, politician, and world record skydiver. With three World Titles, 11 National Titles in Vertical Formation Skydiving (VFS), 20 World Records, and over 17,000 skydives to her name, Sara Curtis is nothing …
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What do you do when you feel stuck? How do you get unstuck? Are you really stuck, or do you feel stuck? What’s the difference? This week, Joe and Brett unpack a rapid-fire coaching session with a woman who felt stuck in her life. They explore the feeling of stuckness and its underlying patterns, discussing what they notice in her real-time expressi…
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Send Us Feedback via Text My guest today has truly lived a life that transcends even the wildest dreams of a successful career in skydiving. With over 500 BASE jumps and 17,000 skydives, Jon Devore is a highly respected camera flyer, BASE jumper, wingsuiter, world champion free flyer, and stunt performer. His work has been featured in major films s…
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Send Us Feedback via Text My guest today is making significant waves in the international skydiving community. Marta Molinska, a well-known skydiver and organizer, is behind one of the most thrilling events emerging out of Europe—the European Skydiving Symposium. With over 2,000 jumps to her name, Marta is an AFF Instructor and Event Manager at Sky…
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Joe sits down with his eldest daughter, Esme, to discuss what it was like to raise a teenager—and what it was like to be raised by Joe as a teenager. They talk about the difference between being a parent and truly knowing your child, teenage rebellion, the things you can see in teen behavior that sheds clues on what's happening at home, and share s…
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Send Us Feedback via Text My guest today is from the Pioneer era of parachuting and yet is the sports biggest ambassador. Kim Emmons Knor made her first jump in 1959. As a member of the first U.S. Women’s Parachute Team, she won gold at the Sixth World Parachuting Championships. Flash forward to present day, or 65 years after her first jump, Kim is…
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Send Us Feedback via Text Rudy Ribbeck deployed to Vietnam at 19, piloting a Huey helicopter. He was shot down three times and awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross, two Bronze Stars, and 53 Air Medals. In his second tour, he flew reconnaissance missions in fixed-wing aircraft. Returning to the US, Rudy served at STRICOM and was assigned to an Int…
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You’ve got questions, we’ve got reflections on your questions! Join Brett and Joe as they address topics that have been asked of the podcast since the last Q&A. In this episode, they respond to questions about ambition, relating to narcissistic parents, addiction to stress and dysfunction, supporting children through their emotional experiences, an…
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Send Us Feedback via Text Today's guest is Alan Eustace, who captured global attention on October 24, 2014, by setting the world record for the highest altitude jump at 135,890 feet and the longest freefall distance. His suit from this jump is displayed at the Smithsonian's National Air and Space Museum in Virginia. Prior to this, Alan was a signif…
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When Stephanie Harrison’s perfect-on-paper life resulted in physical and emotional breakdown, she got curious and went in search of answers to what was causing it and what needed to change. It led her straight to the heart of happiness and flipped the achievement script on its head—much like happened with Joe. In this episode, Joe sits down with St…
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Send Us Feedback via Text JaNette Lefkowitz is a towering figure in competitive skydiving in the United States. JaNette's influence spans widely; it's a common thread among many four-way teams to find at least one member who has benefited from her coaching or mentorship. As the co-founder of SDC Rhythm XP, she has been at the helm of a team that em…
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What is the power of gratitude? How does it impact productivity and growth? In this episode, Joe and Brett talk all about gratitude—how it is often overlooked as a path to solve problems, speeds up transformation, and changes self-perception. They explore gratitude as a practice, the challenges of gratitude, using gratitude as a strategy, and allow…
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Send Us Feedback via Text Today's guest is a standout figure in the skydiving world. Becca Farewell, with over 7,000 jumps and 11 years of experience, has served as a tandem instructor, AFF Instructor, and videographer at notable locations including Go Jump Oceanside, Skydive Elsinore, and Skydive Perris. Renowned for her vibrant energy and dedicat…
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What brings someone to Master Class? What’s the impact that the course has? Joe sits down with 3 people—one from each year that course has run—to learn about their experiences and what Master Class meant to each of them before, during, and after their journeys. Tune in for a surprising conversation on what happened when they dove head-first into AO…
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What’s hidden in plain sight? Our assumptions belie our worldview. In this episode, Brett and Joe explore what it means to question the assumptions you have, what happens when you do it, and how it can change, well, everything. Send us your questions on Twitter, through our website, or in our Circle community! Joe on X: @FU_JoeHudson AOA on X: @art…
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Send Us Feedback via Text Danny Smith has been the DZO at Skydive Carolina for 38 years and counting! Throughout his tenure, he's endured major challenges, and yet he still loves it (a rarity!). In this episode we talk about Danny's amazing career and love for skydiving. This is a special episode for me as Danny Smith has done so much for me person…
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A giant whale shark gracefully swims beneath a fishing boat, its massive form capable of capsizing the small vessel with a single movement. This captivating moment was captured by the renowned Mexican environmental photographer and marine biologist Cristina Mittermeier. Whether it's majestic whales, gigantic icebergs, or indigenous people – Cristin…
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Send Us Feedback via Text Larry Hill is the visionary behind one of the most recognized dropzones in the world, Skydive Arizona. Larry’s influence extends beyond the operation of his famous dropzone. He has been a crucial supporter of competitive skydiving, particularly through his backing of the storied, Arizona Airspeed. This support helped catap…
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When it comes to being understood, whose responsibility is it? What do you do when you feel misunderstood? In this episode, Joe coaches Savannah, who is grappling with feeling wilfully misunderstood by people in all areas of her life. Together with Joe, Savannah explores how state of mind, emotional content, and the desire to control an outcome—eve…
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Send Us Feedback via Text My guest today is arguably one of the most accomplished skydivers in history. Cheryl Stearns has received every major accolade in skydiving and holds an incredible record as a pilot. Cheryl holds: 33 National Championships 30 World Records 22,000+ Jumps First Female Member of the Golden Knights Most Jumps by a Woman in 24 …
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