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The intersection of film, entertainment, & marketing. Marianna Boguslavsky, founder & digital strategist at Boguslavsky & Co, interviews some of the most interesting people in the film industry, regionally and internationally, on the topics of their careers, the film industry, creativity, and the latest marketing trends in the film industry.
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Meetings From Hell: Tom Has An Agenda
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Chapter 5, Episode 13 Fall of 2019 brings two unforgettable meetings that cause a whole lot of damage. First up: the worship team implodes after a blow-up at practice, and Tom calls a meeting to “resolve” things. But when emotions run high and accountability is mentioned, Tom storms out—leaving Ole Reliable and Amanda to clean up the mess and play …
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Chapter 5, Episode 12 Charlotte starts dropping hints that she’s ready to maybe let go of the reins of women’s ministry. But like everything else at Come As You Are, it’s not that simple. Instead of a healthy handoff, Charlotte uses the opportunity to manipulate, test loyalties, and maintain control—just from behind the curtain. The illusion of emp…
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40 Days of Community: Campaigning for Tom
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Chapter 5, Episode 11 Fresh off the Georgia trip, Tom is fired up about effective communication. For once, it seems like he’s actually all in—ready to implement everything he’s learned and get the church on board with his newfound passion. But how does he plan to make it happen? Simple. He buys yet another program from Rick Warren. Because nothing …
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Chapter 5, Episode 10 Tom comes back from Georgia fired up, ready to revolutionize church communication. Enter Grow Gatherings—meetings meant to bring people together, spark engagement, and finally give the congregation a voice. For a brief moment, it seems like something real is happening. People are excited. Ideas are flowing. But then, reality s…
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Interview with Gasper Chiaramonte - Hollywood Editor
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Gasper Chiaramonte is a Hollywood video editor and producer. He is best known for working as an Editor on American Idol, Chelsea Lately, The Late Late Show with James Corden & many other TV projects. Gasper shares insights on how to break into Hollywood, the key role an editor plays in unscripted TV, how well editors get paid, along with advice for…
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Georgia on My Mind: Amanda's Idea, Tom's Trip
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Chapter 5, Episode 9 Amanda finds a church communications conference in Atlanta that she’s eager to attend, but what starts as simply asking for permission quickly spirals into a full-blown staff trip—led and planned by Tom, of course. Suddenly, it’s no longer about learning or growth; it’s about control. As with most things at Come As You Are, the…
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Indie film production - interview with Ed Rowell
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Ed Rowell is a creative producer and video editor based in the UK. Marianna and Ed reminisce about working together at TOH PR, Ed chats about the transformational experience that was working in production for Wigwam Films, and what it was really like to be part of the crew for a BAFTA winning film. Ed discusses the difference between creative agenc…
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Chapter 5, Episode 8 The theme for VBS 2019 is Run Your Race, but as usual, Tom has his own agenda. Determined to put the men of the church in their place and prove they need to step up, he appoints himself as the lead. But in true Tom fashion, that really just means one thing—Brandi and Amanda will do all the work, while he takes all the credit. W…
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Commercial Film Production - interview with Layal Moukahal
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Layal Moukahal is the founder and CEO of Film Pudding Productions. She shares her love for production, why the advertising agency world was not quite right for her, & overcoming obstacles when launching her own film production company. Marianna and Layal chat about their experiences of working with Arab men, and Layal gives some insights into what’…
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The Time Amanda Threw Miss America a Funeral
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Chapter 5, Episode 7 A new family walks through the church doors, and Tom smells money. They need to be love-bombed and pulled in immediately, and what better way than to hand them over to Brandi and Amanda? Fresh off being allowed to be friends again, the two are tasked with planning a funeral at Come As You Are—a funeral that quickly turns into a…
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Interview with Egyptian filmmaker - Hayat Aljowaily
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Hayat Aljowaily is an Egyptian filmmaker & cultural programmer based between Paris & Cairo. Marianna chats to Hayat about how growing up in NYC during her formative years shaped her career, studying in the South of France, interning at Mad Solutions in Cairo & Maven Pictures in New York, and launching Le Hangar, a Paris-based production company. Ha…
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Tithes & Serving: Tom Needed Control
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Chapter 5, Episode 6 Pastor Young Gun is out, but the fallout is far from over. With the church divided, Tom is desperate to reassert his authority. He played his hand, forcing people to choose sides, and now it’s time to bring the Team Young Gun stragglers back into the fold. But how does he do it? And more importantly—does it work? Meanwhile, ami…
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Emotional Manipulation: The Good Friday Facade
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Chapter 5, Episode 5 Tom has never been one for deep self-reflection or lingering in raw emotion, but as a pastor, he knows he has to maintain the illusion of spiritual depth and care. With Good Friday 2019 approaching, he faces a dilemma—how to keep his mask on without letting the service become too introspective or heavy. His solution? Send Amand…
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Love Is More Than Just a Word...It's a Control Tactic
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Chapter 5, Episode 4 Coming off the success of the Christmas play, Melissa is determined to make the church’s Valentine’s event unforgettable with a dinner theater experience. The Griswolds take charge of the meal, while Melissa reimagines The Glass Menagerie with her own twist. But the real question of the night—can Froggy pull off his sermon-styl…
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Abu Dhabi Film Commission - interview with Sameer Al Jaberi
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Sameer Al Jaberi is the Head of Abu Dhabi Film Commission. Sameer shares his journey into the film industry, being on set of Mission Impossible, the Abu Dhabi Film Commission's new rebate for film producers, and how Abu Dhabi is supporting regional filmmakers. Marianna and Sameer chat about their shared love for ice skating, Vin Diesel, and why not…
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MENA region film distribution - interview with Bilal Dayani
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Bilal Dayani is the COO of Eagle Films, a motion pictures distributor & producer in the MIddle East and North Africa regions. Bilal discusses the early days of film distribution in the Middle East, DVDs, and the challenges of producing Arabic content. Marianna and Bilal chat about the horror genre, Saudi Arabia's bustling film industry, and Egyptia…
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Go: A Conference to Prove Charlette Wrong
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Chapter 5, Episode 3 In this episode of Burning Butterflies, Amanda recalls the tense and defining moment when she decided to challenge Charlette’s rigid approach to women's ministry at Come As You Are. For years, the women's events at the church were steeped in tradition—every gathering required a keepsake, a craft, and, of course, worship. It had…
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The Middle East film industry - interview with Amanda Turnbull
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Amanda Turnbull is the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of Rise Studios, an entertainment company driving investment into content throughout the Middle East and North Africa. Amanda and Marianna discuss the fundamental differences between the US and MENA film industries, insights into the growth of the Saudi region, and how storytelling is unive…
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Amanda Gets Played: But Also Gets a Ministry
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Chapter 5, Episode 2 Amanda has always wanted to serve, to be useful, to prove her devotion to the church and to Tom. But in this episode, we unravel how Tom expertly manipulates her, turning her into a pawn in his mind games—this time, with Beth as his target. As tensions rise, Amanda is unknowingly used to push Beth over the edge, leading to her …
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Exploring the European film industry - interview with Sarah Calderón
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Sarah Calderón is the founder of The Film Agency, a film marketing consultancy based in Madrid. Sarah gives a glimpse into what it took to launch The Film Agency, and the gap in the market that existed then (& still exists now). Marianna and Sarah chat about how indie films allow for more creative freedom when it comes to marketing, and the peril…
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Divided Loyalties: You Must Choose a Pastor
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Chapter 5, Episode 1 The premiere of Chapter 5 kicks off with a dramatic turning point as the subtle division within the church finally erupts into the open. For months, tensions have been brewing beneath the surface, with quiet alliances forming amongst the church body. Even Tom has acknowledged the split, referring to You Gun as "their pastor"—a …
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Chapter 5 Mini-Sode "It All Hits the Fan"By Melissa Anne & Amanda Turnbull
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Chapter 4, Episode 14 The chapter finale delivers an explosive and emotional culmination as Melissa’s play turns out to be a resounding success. With stunning execution, the production dazzles the congregation, leaving no doubt about Melissa’s talents and leadership. But behind the scenes, the story is far more complex. Amanda, forbidden from havin…
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How to find a job in the UAE - interview with Justin McGuire
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Justin McGuire is the OG of the Middle East Recruitment Industry. He’s the co-founder of MCG, the go-to talent specialists across Marketing, Creative, Communications and Technology in the Middle East and Asia. Marianna and Justin chat about the state of the recruitment industry in the GCC region, why just applying to jobs doesn’t work in the UAE, &…
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The Aftermath: Picking Up the Pieces After Time Out
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Chapter 4, Episode 13 In this episode, Amanda and Melissa dive into the aftermath of Tom and Charlotte’s decision to put Amanda and Brandi on "time-out." The fallout reveals the tangled web of manipulation and control within the church, as everyone scrambles to maintain a façade of order. Melissa finds herself knee-deep in planning the church play,…
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When it All Falls Apart: Amanda Goes on Time Out
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Chapter 4, Episode 12 Fall 2018 marks the unraveling of everything. Within days of Young Gun leaving for basic training, Tom attacks his Family Ministry. Amanda and Brandi are abruptly placed in "time out" and forbidden from speaking to one another, their friendship collateral damage in Tom's quest for control. Meanwhile, Tom is riding high after t…
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Chapter 4, Episode 11 Despite growing tensions within the church, Amanda is determined to honor the 20th anniversary of Come As You Are’s presence in the community. Alongside a small group of dedicated members, she convinces Tom to celebrate the milestone. As excitement builds within the congregation, Tom seizes the opportunity, expanding the event…
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Chapter 4, Episode 10 The church enters the summer of 2018 as they always have—Retreat and VBS—but the spirit of unity is gone, replaced by veiled arguments and dishonesty. Petty conflicts arise over trivial matters, like classroom posters, while deeper fractures begin to surface. Pastor Young Gun announces his impending departure for the military.…
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Trouble is a Brewing: We Should Have Been So Happy
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Chapter 4, Episode 9 Everything looks perfect on the surface. Froggy is finally home, Melissa has a job she loves, and Amanda is thriving in her dream job and serving in ministries she’s passionate about. The church’s new wing is complete, and leadership is gearing up for a season of unprecedented growth. But behind the scenes, tensions are rising.…
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The New Wing: The Sale, the Spin, and the Wish List
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Chapter 4, Episode 8 What happened to the money from the sale of the Baptist church? Tom crafts a façade of care and collaboration, gathering a wish list from those working in the trenches of ministry. He presents himself as a servant leader, intent on meeting the needs of the congregation. But behind the scenes, his grand plan is already in motion…
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Interview with Gianluca Chakra - founder of Front Row Filmed Entertainment
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Gianluca Chakra is the visionary founder and managing director of Front Row Filmed Entertainment, the leading independent film distributor & producer in the MENA region. Marianna and Gianluca chat about how fragmented the film industry is in the Middle East, and the challenges of the region when it comes to film distribution. Gianluca shares insigh…
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The Christmas Amanda Got All She Ever Wanted
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Chapter 4, Episode 7 It’s Christmas, and Amanda is finally living the dream—or so she thinks. She’s been hired as staff at Come As You Are, co-leading the children’s ministry with her best friend, and stepping into a key role alongside Pastor Young Gun to launch an exciting new ministry. Everything she’s worked for is falling into place. What could…
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Interview with Brenden Hubbard - filmmaker, producer & film festival consultant
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Brenden Hubbard is an award-winning filmmaker, producer, and film festival strategist. Marianna and Brenden worked together on two film marketing projects - ‘Before I Disappear’ & ‘Last night in Rozzie’. Brenden chats his passion for producing, how his career has evolved from film to podcast producing, and how producing American Hostage Podcast wit…
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Chapter 4, Episode 6 In this episode of Burning Butterflies, Amanda and Melissa revisit the chaotic fall of 2017. Tom unveils his "innovative" fall campaign, a gospel-sharing technique he blatantly lifted from another ministry, but with his usual twist of claiming divine inspiration. Meanwhile, the church rallies behind its latest ambitious project…
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Double Standards: The Foundation of Come As You Are
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Chapter 4, Episode 5 In this episode, Amanda and Melissa dive into a season marked by double standards that slowly erode trust and authenticity. While the “Beer Ministry” is in full swing and builds camaraderie, it raises silent questions about what’s truly acceptable in the church. Melissa works tirelessly to convince Froggy that coming home and l…
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Just Drink The Kool-Aid So We Can Teach Kids About Jesus
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Chapter 4, Episode 4 In this episode, we take a look back at the summer of 2017 during Vacation Bible School—a chaotic, high-stakes week meant to be about introducing kids to Jesus. For Amanda, however, it became more about navigating tense dynamics among the volunteers and doing everything in her power to get people to work together. While on the …
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Interview with Patriek Karayil - White House Presidential Innovation Fellow
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Patriek Karayil is a C-suite advisor, White House Presidential Innovation Fellow & Board Member of the American Education Board. Marianna chats to Patriek about the serendipitous nature of his career, digital transformation for the US government, & what it was really like working at The White House. Marianna and Patriek debate the merits of an Euro…
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Melissa's Jubilee: It Was Never About Froggy
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Chapter 4, Episode 3 The 2017 women’s retreat, called Jubilee, was meant to celebrate “joy in the Lord”—but for Melissa, it became the site of a soul-wrenching revelation. In this first retreat Amanda did not attend in over a decade, Melissa took the stage to praise God for restoring her marriage. She spoke passionately about the joy of rescuing he…
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Chapter 4, Episode 2 In this episode of Burning Butterflies, Amanda takes us back to the beginning of 2017, a time when everything seemed to be falling into place. With Pastor Young Gun's affirmation and support, Amanda is thriving as the co-lead of the children's ministry. Together, they work tirelessly to launch a new church initiative aimed at b…
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Melissa Living in Fear: Froggy Throws the Mask Away
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Chapter 4, Episode 1 In this Chapter 4 premiere, the ladies dive into the unraveling of Froggy's life and the impact it had on his marriage to Melissa. In the beginning of 2017, Melissa lost her father, which ultimately reveals the cracks in Froggy's mask. As his drug use becomes more prevalent, Melissa is brought to the breaking point and asks Tom…
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In this mini-sode introducing Chapter 4, Melissa and Amanda give you a peek into Chapter 4, why they call it the "Re-Tweet" and foreshadow just what is about to come!By Melissa Anne & Amanda Turnbull
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Chapter 3, Episode 16 In this episode of Burning Butterflies, Amanda and Melissa dive into the whirlwind that was the final months of 2016. They recount the escalating infighting within the church, the growing tension between key leaders, and the emotional ordination of Pastor Young Gun. As they close out Chapter 3 of their story, they reflect on t…
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Marriages on Fire: The Flames We Didn't Ask For
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Chapter 3, Episode 15 Join Amanda and Melissa as they take a deep dive into a marriage ministry the church attempted to implement, which spiraled out of control almost immediately. What started as a well-intentioned effort to strengthen the marriages within the congregation quickly turned into a disaster that did far more harm than good. The idea w…
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The Price of Ignorance: Melissa’s Hell, Amanda’s Detachment
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Chapter 3, Episode 14 In this gripping episode, Melissa breaks her silence about the summer she vanished from VBS without warning, leaving everyone scrambling to pick up the pieces. The ladies unpack the personal turmoil Melissa was facing at the time, shedding light on the real reason for her sudden disappearance. Meanwhile, Amanda reflects on how…
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Celebrate Sisterhood: The Retreat That Broke Us
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Chapter 3, Episode 13 In this explosive episode of Burning Butterflies, we dive into the chaos of the Celebrate Sisterhood Women's Retreat—a weekend meant for bonding, healing, and sisterhood that instead became a battlefield of emotions. Petty grievances turning into full-blown conflicts, revealing the cracks in friendships that once felt unbreaka…
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Marriage Conference Madness: Moms Gone Wild
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Chapter 3, Episode 12 Pastor Young Gun sees a need to strengthen marriages within the church and brings the idea of a marriage conference to the leadership team. Newly licensed Pastor Vanilla, eager to prove himself, suggests a ministry he's previously participated in, but Tom quickly shuts it down, insisting that the only acceptable resource comes…
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New Leaders, New Struggles, Same Narcissism
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Chapter 3, Episode 11 In this episode of Burning Butterflies, we dive into the churchwide aftermath of the California trip. Tom finally gets what he's always wanted—another leader who loves and leads the church with as much passion as he does. Pastor Young Gun jumps in with both feet and seems to be a perfect fit. But as he begins to connect with t…
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The Weight of Perfection: Amanda's Dark Path
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Chapter 3, Episode 10 TW: suicide and depression In this raw and eye-opening episode, Amanda shares her personal journey of being overwhelmed by the pressures of ministry, leading a mom's group, and trying to embody the ideal Proverbs 31 wife and mother. This relentless pursuit of perfection led her down a dark and dangerous path. Together, the lad…
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The Phantom Conference: A Misleading Pilgrimage to Saddleback
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Chapter 3, Episode 9 In this eye-opening episode, the ladies unravel the curious tale of Tom's grand plan to indoctrinate Pastor Young Gun by taking him and a dozen others on a transformative journey "Mother Land," a conference at Saddleback Church led by none other than Rick Warren himself. But there’s a twist: the conference never existed. Rick W…
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From Controlling to Calling: The Rise of Pastor Young Gun
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Chapter 3, Episode 8 In this episode of Burning Butterflies, we dive into the dramatic shift that occurs when Pastor Young Gun arrives at the high-control evangelical church, Come As You Are. Known for his dictatorial leadership, Tom keeps a tight grip on his congregation, discouraging any form of independent thought or leadership. But when the you…
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