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Secret Sonics

Ben Wallick and Carl Bahner

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Join mix engineers Ben Wallick and Carl Bahner as they team up to discuss the real-world trials and triumphs of music production. Tactical advice on skill development, mixing mindsets, personal branding, and achieving work-life rhythm in an evolving industry. The motivation and strategic insights you need to build your dream creative career in music and audio. Fresh episodes every week.
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My name is Dustin Kelly, but everybody calls me DJ. I am former Army, serving as both a Forward Observer and a Military Police Officer. I have spent the last 16.5 years as a Police Officer and Detective in a large metropolitan Police Department. Throughout my career I have learned two things. 1. Everybody has a story to tell, and 2. The Best Stories Are True. This is the DTD Podcast.
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Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, brokie, music producer. Join me on my wild musical safari journey as I navigate the twists and turns of the young producer life, exploring and figuring it all out one episode at a time. Get ready for an electrifying adventure complete with incredible guests, wild challenges, honest takes, and a (very) generous dose of humor. Join the ride and let's embark on this musical odyssey together!
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JP Dinnell Podcast

JP Dinnell, Lucas Pinckard

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JP Dinnell is a former U.S. Navy SEAL and now a Leadership Instructor, Speaker and Strategic Advisor with Echelon Front, where he serves as Director of Experiential Leadership Training Programs. J.P. is also a pro team athlete and spokesperson for Origin Maine and Jocko Fuel, an American clothing and supplement company. J.P. has a signature Energy Drink flavor “Sour Apple Sniper” with Jocko Fuel. Jeremiah spent nearly a decade in the SEAL Teams with three combat deployments. Sent to the viol ...
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🌟 EPISODE TWENTY EIGHT ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, music producer. Today was a particularly spooky day in The Safari Pedals Show world! Engineers Carl Bahner, Ben Wallick, and Noam- the Founder of Safari Pedals each shared and engineering horror story and the lessons they learned from those experiences. Follow us for sh…
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JP Dinnell sits down with BUD/S 242 classmate and all around good dude Ben "The Vanilla Gorilla" Wallick to talk family, faith, and special operations. Check out Ben: https://vanillagorillasecurity.com/ Ben Wallick: https://www.instagram.com/vanillagorillasecurity/ More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinnell.com/ Join the conversation on instagram …
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In this second part of our interview with Nick Nagurka, we dive deeper into the human side of Nick’s approach to live band recording. Nick shares insights on creating a comfortable environment for artists, managing the pressure of performance, and maintaining the delicate balance between technical excellence and capturing raw, authentic moments. Fr…
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JP Dinnell gives insight into the Dichotomy of Leadership as it relates to disciple and adaptability. More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinnell.com/ Join the conversation on instagram JP Dinnell: http://instagram.com/jpdinnell/ Lucas Pinckard: https://www.instagram.com/lucaspinckard Bruiser Arms: https://www.instagram.com/bruiserarms Echelon Fron…
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🌟 EPISODE TWENTY NINE ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, music producer. This week we are continuing the glorious and highly educational "Clienting 101" mini series!! (woo!) I had a blast chatting with Producer and Engineer Gloria Kaba. She shared the scoop on her clienting journey and insights into her clienting world. Follow…
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Welcome to the first interview episode of Secret Sonics 2.0! We're kicking off our revamped format with a bang, pulling back the curtain on the art and science of live band recording with engineer extraordinaire Nick Nagurka. Known for his work with Theo Katzman and Vulfpeck, Nick brings a fresh perspective to the age-old challenge of capturing lig…
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JP Dinnell sits down with author and founder of The Mindset Academy, Dillon Cooper to discuss the importance of mentoring and building up men. Support The Mindset Academy: https://themindsetacademy.org/ Get the book: https://tinyurl.com/yc3kdp4c More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinnell.com/ Join the conversation on instagram Dillon Cooper: https…
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David Waterhouse served in the United States Army with the 2nd Ranger Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment.Completing 6 deployments in four years consisting of 3 to Iraq and 3 to Afghanistan. Miami born film maker Sean Spencer started Studio No 237 in 2017. His films Ranger and Nguyen have both been celebrated by critics and audiences alike accumulating …
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Ben and Carl discuss key strategies for creating a sustainable and future-proof music production business. They explore topics like consistent lead generation, maintaining client relationships, adapting to industry trends, and differentiating yourself in a crowded market. Topics we discuss: The power of consistent lead generation, even during busy …
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JP Dinnell sits down with Retired Navy SEAL Officer and Echelon Front instructor Carlos Mendez. More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinnell.com/ Join the conversation on instagram Carlos Mendez: https://www.instagram.com/carlos_mendez_246 JP Dinnell: http://instagram.com/jpdinnell/ Lucas Pinckard: https://www.instagram.com/lucaspinckard Bruiser Arm…
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🌟 EPISODE TWENTY SEVEN ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, music producer. This episode kicks off a new mini-series I'm doing within the show called: "Clienting 101." As someone who has not yet had paid clients, I thought it would be both fun and educational to chat with a lineup of different audio professionals about their app…
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Ben and Carl discuss their professional evolution since their first podcast encounter four years ago. They explore significant changes in equipment, mindset, and industry practices that have shaped their careers in music production and mixing. Topics we discuss: How better equipment revealed Ben's bad mixing habits Carl's journey in self-confidence…
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🌟 EPISODE TWENTY SIX ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, music producer. I had a blast chatting with Emmy Nominated, Grammy Certificate Multi-Platinum Engineer Daniela Rivera about making the mix "slay". We discussed what makes a mix great, where she sees new producers and engineers going wrong with their mixes, and tips she ha…
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Today, we have a guest whose resume reads like an action-packed novel.Our guest is a former Navy SEAL and SEAL Delivery Vehicle Operator (SDV), who has also served as a Naval Special Warfare Sniper and Team Leader. With 13 combat deployments under his belt, he's faced some of the most intense situations imaginable. But that's just the beginning. He…
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Have a listen to the very first episode of Secret Sonics featuring Carl Bahner! Back in August 2020, during the height of the pandemic, Ben and Carl formed a friendship. We thought it would be fun to revisit this episode and explore Carl's origin story while we take a break to prepare for bringing new guests onto the show. Enjoy! Original Show Note…
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JP Dinnell sits down with Eric Grogan, former McKinney officer who was on the scene during the infamous "McKinney Pool Party Incident". Eric's actions that day exemplified what it means to serve and protect. More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinnell.com/ Join the conversation on instagram JP Dinnell: http://instagram.com/jpdinnell/ Lucas Pinckard…
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🌟 EPISODE TWENTY FIVE ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, music producer. It's been a minute, but we're back and better than ever with the 5 Mistakes & 5 Tips mini series (yay!). I had a blast chatting with Grammy Award Winning Engineer, Leslie Brathwaite, and getting the scoop on the mistakes that have shaped his audio journey…
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In this episode, Carl shares his recent experience creating a backing track for a high-stakes live event. Discover how mixing for a live venue requires a complete shift in priorities and techniques compared to crafting tracks for streaming platforms. From exaggerating dynamics to strategically reinforcing rhythmic elements, you'll learn about how t…
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JP Dinnell sits down with legendary Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu black belt competitor and owner of Double Five Jiu-Jitsu, Rafael Formiga Barbosa. Come train at Double Fives: https://doublefivejiujitsuhv.com/ More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinnell.com/ Join the conversation on instagram Formiga: https://www.instagram.com/rafael_formiga JP Dinnell: http…
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🌟 EPISODE TWENTY FOUR ALERT 🌟 Hey there! I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie Music Producer. I had a blast getting to chat with Esthy, an Artist, Producer, Engineer, Content Creator, and Filmmaker. We dove into her journey from the booth to the console- how she ventured from being solely an artist to producing, mixing and mastering music. Es…
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In this episode, Ben and Carl discuss how their respective backgrounds as a bassist and a drummer shape their approach to music production and mixing. They delve into the influence of their live performance experiences and traditional training on their production techniques, emphasizing intentionality and minimalism. Topics we discuss: Intentionali…
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JP Dinnell talks with former Navy SEAL Ryan Parrott. Birds Eye View Project: https://birdseyeviewproject.org/ Sons of the Flag: https://sonsoftheflag.org/ Birdman: http://instagram.com/BirdmanActual More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinnell.com/ Join the conversation on instagram JP Dinnell: http://instagram.com/jpdinnell/ Lucas Pinckard: https:/…
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🌟 EPISODE TWENTY THREE ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, brokie, music producer. It's been a minute since I've done a challenge on the show, but we're bringing it back! To celebrate the release of Safari Pedal's latest plugin: The Camel Strip AKA the desert island plugin, we are doing The Desert Island Challenge!! I will have…
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This week in the studio a guest with a story of unwavering commitment to duty and country. On January 31, 2001, my guest took his first steps into a world of service, donning the uniform of the United States Marine Corps. As a platoon sergeant in conventional infantry operations, he led with integrity and compassion, guiding his fellow Marines thro…
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In this episode, Ben and Carl discuss the transition from being live performers to working in the studio. They share personal anecdotes and insights into the skills and experiences that have informed their studio work, such as checking egos, understanding tempo, effective communication, conflict resolution, and the importance of arrangement. They a…
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JP sits down with real life Jason Bourne, Tony Cowden. Tony talks about his time in the Green Beret, working as a CIA operative, and what it takes to teach the next generation of soldiers. Tony's Links: https://www.instagram.com/tony_cowden_ https://www.capableincorporated.com/ https://thereasonoutdoors.org/ More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinn…
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🌟 EPISODE TWENTY TWO ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, brokie, music producer. This episode I chatted with 80p&Chewsday, a music production duo based in Nottingham, England. We discussed their journey as a duo, how that's been going, and their work with up and coming artist: LYVIA. We dove into the production and creative pro…
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Join Ben and Carl for a peek behind the podcast curtain as they reflect on the journey of Secret Sonics and explore exciting new directions for the show. In this candid conversation, they share their vision for weaving in fresh perspectives through guest interviews while preserving the magic of their duo dynamic. Discover the thought process behind…
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JP Dinnell sits down with his friend Ian Hamilton to talk about how he overcame a life of dealing and addiction. More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinnell.com/ Come to the June 11 Training in DFW: https://bit.ly/ExtremeOwnershipTexas Join the conversation on instagram Ian Hamilton: https://www.instagram.com/ianbhamilton JP Dinnell: http://instagr…
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🌟 EPISODE TWENTY ONE ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, brokie, music producer. This episode I chatted with A.J. Hall: a Drummer, Producer, and Sample Pack Creator, who's drum breaks have been featured on tracks by Jack Harlow, Kid Cudi, Russ, and Guapdad 4000 (to name a few). We discussed what got him into the world of creati…
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Teamwork really DOES make the dream work. In this episode, Ben and Carl dive deep into assembling a roster of pros who can take your projects to the next level. From identifying the right specialists for each song to fostering a culture of trust and creative alchemy, you'll learn how to build a team that amplifies your strengths and delivers even b…
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JP Dinnell gets into one of the greatest dichotomies of leadership, how to be competitive and still be a gracious loser. More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinnell.com/ Come to the June 11 Training in DFW: https://bit.ly/ExtremeOwnershipTexas Join the conversation on instagram JP Dinnell: http://instagram.com/jpdinnell/ Lucas Pinckard: https://www…
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🌟 EPISODE TWENTY ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, brokie, music producer. We're back and better than ever again with the 5 Mistakes & 5 Tips mini series! (woo!). This week I chatted with Grammy Award Winning Engineer Jeff Ellis Worldwide to get the scoop on the mistakes that have shaped his audio journey, mistakes that he se…
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Are you constantly chasing the elusive "perfect" mix or agonizing over every tiny detail in your productions? In this episode, Ben and Carl share their hard-won insights on overcoming perfectionist tendencies that can stifle creativity and slow progress to a crawl. They share practical strategies for breaking free from the perfectionist's curse, tr…
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Please Be Advised This episode contains GRAPHIC Description of Child Abuse Seth's journey is one of resilience and redemption. From enduring extreme poverty, violence, and prolonged sexual abuse as a child, Seth has faced more than his fair share of trials. Yet, through unwavering determination and an indomitable spirit, he has risen above his circ…
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Jocko Willink can be described in one word: Discipline. He's known for it, he demands it of his listeners, but what was it like serving under the command of Jocko? JP Dinnell talks about his firsthand experience serving with U.S. Navy SEAL Task Unit Bruiser in Ramadi, Iraq under Jocko. More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinnell.com/ Come to the Ju…
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🌟 EPISODE NINETEEN ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, brokie, music producer. We're back once again with the 5 Mistakes & 5 Tips mini series! (woo!!). This week I chatted with Grammy Nominated, Multi Platinum, and Billboard #1 Producer and Engineer, Ben Thomas to get the scoop on mistakes that have shaped his audio journey, mi…
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Ben and Carl delve into their go-to songs for mix references across various aspects of sound including bottom end, top end, mid-range, depth, stereo field, dynamic range, and transients. They explore a wide range of music from artists like Radiohead, Adele, Daft Punk, and Billie Eilish, to name a few, providing insights into why these tracks serve …
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JP Dinnell sets the record straight on U.S. Navy SEAL officer Leif Babin. Come to the June 11 Training in DFW: https://bit.ly/ExtremeOwnershipTexas Come to the Range with JP: https://www.capableincorporated.com/product/2-day-long-range-precision-ennis-tx/ More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinnell.com/ Join the conversation on instagram JP Dinnell…
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🌟 EPISODE EIGHTEEN ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, brokie, music producer. The music industry is DEFINITELY not a place for the faint of heart. This episode I chatted with GQ aka Garrett Humble, a producer, engineer, and artist about being young, dumb, and in the music industry: what got him into music, and what keeps him g…
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Does music theory belong in the mixing engineer's toolbox? In this rapid-fire episode, Ben and Carl explore the surprising ways a solid grasp of music theory can elevate your mixes from amateur to awesome. Discover how to wield the power of harmony, melody, and chord progressions to troubleshoot tricky mix issues, enhance arrangements, and take you…
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Tim DeMaio served in the US Navy where he operated as a Squad Leader at the Presidential Retreat Camp David providing support to high level USG officials, foreign dignitaries, and the Commander-in-Chief of the United States of America. After a tour at Camp David, Tim was chosen to shoot for the US Navy Marksmanship team. He then deployed around the…
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JP Dinnell talks about winning the daily battle with complacency and how the disease of victory is your biggest adversary. Come to the Training: https://bit.ly/ExtremeOwnershipTexas More from JP Dinnell: https://www.jpdinnell.com/ Join the conversation on instagram JP Dinnell: http://instagram.com/jpdinnell/ Lucas Pinckard: https://www.instagram.co…
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🌟 EPISODE SEVENTEEN ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, brokie, music producer. Audio People wear many hats simultaneously: from freelancing, to shift work at a studio, to content creation etc... This episode I chatted with Britanny Rogers, an artist and producer, to discuss how she balances being both her brand, while simultan…
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Want to know how to create release-ready mixes with confidence every single time? In this episode, Ben and Carl reveal their approaches for achieving reliable mix consistency no matter the song. Discover the mindset shifts, little-known technical tricks, and proven workflow strategies that will help you nail your mix vision faster, with fewer frust…
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JP Dinnell talks about difference between the brave and the cowardly, whether gear or training makes the SEAL, and how important it is to embrace your nerves not your fear. In the SEAL Teams I learned that the small details matter just like in wrestling. Wrestlers do not cheat. Wrestlers do not cut corners. Wrestlers do not lie. Wrestlers do not co…
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🌟 EPISODE SIXTEEN ALERT 🌟 Hi - I'm Abi, your friendly neighborhood newbie, brokie, music producer. We're continuing the mini series that I'm doing in the show called: 5 Mistakes & 5 tips (yay!) . This week I chatted with Grammy Award Winning Engineer, Andrew Scheps to get the scoop on mistakes that have shaped his audio journey, mistakes that he se…
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In this week's episode, Ben and Carl unmask the mystery of masking (pun very much intended). They talk about frequency masking, rhythmic masking, transient masking, and more. There are plenty of "aha!" moments that will change the way you approach mixing, so tune in now and elevate your mixes from cluttered to crystal-clear! Topics we discuss: The …
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This week in the studio, an extraordinary individual whose life's journey transcends the boundaries of adversity, resilience, and redemption. From a turbulent past marked by brushes with the law, the U.S. Navy SEALs, and subsequent turmoil that led to a downward spiral, His story is a testament to the human spirit's capacity for transformation. Aft…
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